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Shadowman wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Duke of Luns wrote:Yeah, secret identities are indeed becoming a thing of the past in Superhero movies.
Except for Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man. And if you want to extend that to TV, Flash and Green Arrow as well.
even if you count those heroes is still not the same that it used to be.
I only saw the first of the 2 "new" Spiderman films,but in that film both Gwen Stacy and her father learn that Spidy is.
in the last Superman film Pete Ross and Lana Lang learn what he can do as kids and Lois knew who he was even before he took on a hero name
in the last Batman films,Lucius Fox Rachel Dawes [old F and a DA], Catwoman ,Jim Gordan all learn his ID at some point,heck even a rookie cop figures it out
I lost count of how many people know "green" Arrows id in that show, I think its near or over 10.
and so far I've only seen 1 episode of Flash, and already 5 people knew his id.
Yeah...and they still all keep their identities secret from the public at large. Also, you shouldn't be counting love interests like Lois and Gwen, since they're almost always privy to the secret identity in the comics.
I count them because it normaly takes time for a love interest to learn they are heroes.
in these films they seem to learn pretty quick
My point still stands though, you can't say they don't keep secret identities when they clearly do. Unless you'd like to point out the scenes in the Nolan movies or the Spider-Man movies where they disclose their identities to the public...
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Duke of Luns wrote:Yeah, secret identities are indeed becoming a thing of the past in Superhero movies.
Except for Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man. And if you want to extend that to TV, Flash and Green Arrow as well.
even if you count those heroes is still not the same that it used to be.
I only saw the first of the 2 "new" Spiderman films,but in that film both Gwen Stacy and her father learn that Spidy is.
in the last Superman film Pete Ross and Lana Lang learn what he can do as kids and Lois knew who he was even before he took on a hero name
in the last Batman films,Lucius Fox Rachel Dawes [old F and a DA], Catwoman ,Jim Gordan all learn his ID at some point,heck even a rookie cop figures it out
I lost count of how many people know "green" Arrows id in that show, I think its near or over 10.
and so far I've only seen 1 episode of Flash, and already 5 people knew his id.
Yeah...and they still all keep their identities secret from the public at large. Also, you shouldn't be counting love interests like Lois and Gwen, since they're almost always privy to the secret identity in the comics.
I count them because it normaly takes time for a love interest to learn they are heroes.
in these films they seem to learn pretty quick
My point still stands though, you can't say they don't keep secret identities when they clearly do. Unless you'd like to point out the scenes in the Nolan movies or the Spider-Man movies where they disclose their identities to the public...
dont confuse me with others.
I never said they were going public
I just said secret id's isint like it used to be
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Not really, a couple of movies just decided to handle it differently. Many others handle it the normal way.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Not really, a couple of movies just decided to handle it differently. Many others handle it the normal way.
none of the movies and shows you mentioned handled it like they've done in the comics or shows of the old days.
and to tell the truth, I cant think of any modern "comic" film that has.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Not really, a couple of movies just decided to handle it differently. Many others handle it the normal way.
none of the movies and shows you mentioned handled it like they've done in the comics or shows of the old days.
and to tell the truth, I cant think of any modern "comic" film that has.
So how did they do it in "the old days?" Oh, please tell me that you think it's supposed to be "No one but the hero knew" because that would be hilarious.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Not really, a couple of movies just decided to handle it differently. Many others handle it the normal way.
none of the movies and shows you mentioned handled it like they've done in the comics or shows of the old days.
and to tell the truth, I cant think of any modern "comic" film that has.
So how did they do it in "the old days?" Oh, please tell me that you think it's supposed to be "No one but the hero knew" because that would be hilarious.
I'm not sure why you want to make an argument of this.
I'm not saying that what they are doing is wrong
I'm not saying that its "supposed" to be handled in any particular way.
I'm just pointing out that there is, indeed, a difference between how it was done in the past and now.
I'm just trying to say its not such a big issue for the new era of films.
want an example of the old days making a big effort to keep the identities a secret, just look to the Adam West Batman tv show. "Balloon" dummies or old man Alfred dressed as batman so Wayne and batman could be seen together, bad guys getting hit on the head and forgetting they found the batcave
yes, it was stupid and hilarious, but they went out of the way to make sure no one learned their ideas
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:
They still do that. Did you not ever wonder why Bruce Wayne made himself out to be such a total rich idiot in the Nolan movies? It's so people would think it's insane that he'd be Batman. (Which is why Clark Kent gets away with his infamous disguise, by acting like such a milquetoast; Luthor was flat out told once, and he just laughed it off)
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:
They still do that. Did you not ever wonder why Bruce Wayne made himself out to be such a total rich idiot in the Nolan movies? It's so people would think it's insane that he'd be Batman. (Which is why Clark Kent gets away with his infamous disguise, by acting like such a milquetoast; Luthor was flat out told once, and he just laughed it off)
Your not telling me anything I dont know.Been reading comics since 75.
But no, its not the same as it was back then, and no, the films arent doing what the old shows did.Even the spoiled playboy act used in the Nolan films is far removed from how it was done.
again, i'm not saying either is better, just saying its different.
again, look at the Nolan films, Bruce pretty much admits to both Rachel and Jim Grodan that hes batman.Maybe it was a bit misdirected but he tells them things that leads them to the realization
in Burton films, Catwoman learns because they get lost in the emotions of each other , Vicky Vale figures it out like a Detective.
ZeroWolf wrote:I know also realize that by the end of phase 3 I'll be near enough 34...thats a little depressing...
Duke of Luns wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I know also realize that by the end of phase 3 I'll be near enough 34...thats a little depressing...
Eh, if comics moved in real time, Spider-Man would be 68. ....and I'll be 33. Hmph.![]()
Time marches on though! And we'll still be too young for DC Comics "alleged" 45-year old target audience.
ZeroWolf wrote:Also really? That's DCs target audience? With the way some of their stuff went I could of sworn it was teenagers
Battling Boy is a departure for the idiosyncratic cartoonist in that it’s aimed more directly at younger readers. Kirby’s Kamandi: The Last Boy On Earth would appear to be a significant influence, and recent remarks made by Pope at Comic-Con International in San Diego confirm his fondness for that Kirby classic and a desire to create a new comic for children. CBR’s Sonia Harris quotes Pope as saying, “I sat down with the head of DC Comics. I really wanted to do Kamandi, this Jack Kirby character. I had this great pitch… and he said ‘You think this is gonna be for kids? Stop, stop. We don’t publish comics for kids. We publish comics for 45-year olds. If you want to do comics for kids, you can do Scooby-Doo.”
Duke of Luns wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I know also realize that by the end of phase 3 I'll be near enough 34...thats a little depressing...
Eh, if comics moved in real time, Spider-Man would be 68.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
ComingSoon wrote:Things have been very quiet on the front of 20th Century Fox’s reboot of The Fantastic Four with nary a trailer, poster, or even official image to speak of, but now an official synopsis of the upcoming film has been released and reads as follows:
“The Fantastic Four,” a contemporary re-imagining of Marvel’s original and longest-running superhero team, centers on four young outsiders who teleport to an alternate and dangerous universe, which alters their physical form in shocking ways. Their lives irrevocably upended, the team must learn to harness their daunting new abilities and work together to save Earth from a former friend turned enemy.
Michael B. Jordan, Jamie Bell, Kate Mara and Miles Teller will play the titular team in the upcoming film. Toby Kebbell will also appear as Dr. Doom along with Reg E. Cathey as Dr. Franklin Storm and Tim Blake Nelson as Harvey Elder, aka The Mole Man. Directed by Josh Trank, The Fantastic Four is set for release on August 7, 2015.
ZeroWolf wrote:This is going to sound stupid and harsh but I want this film to fall flat on its face. Reason? So the rights can go back to marvel. Simple as that.
ComingSoon wrote:“There’s a director on the movies that I’m introduced, but not for ‘Black Panther,’” said Boseman. “Just being a part of that discussion is huge. You’re reading the comic books and you have ideas about how that’s gonna happen and you can discuss that.”
“Movies” being the operative word here. Although it was previously stated that T’Challa would make his debut in May 6, 2016′s Captain America: Civil War, the appearance of Andy Serkis playing what many believe to be Ulysses Klaw in the trailer for Avengers: Age of Ultron, as well as the rumors of Vibranium playing a key role in that sequel’s plot, have many wondering if Boseman will indeed drop by in next summer’s blockbuster. It would certainly make more sense than having the ruler of Wakanda pop up in Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 or Thor: Ragnarok. His only other appearance in the MCU was a very subtle reference to Black Panther on a monitor at the end of Iron Man 2.
“I’m excited about it too!” continued Boseman. “Beyond excited, it’s like to the point where you feel numb and then your mind goes off into, ‘Ok, how do I achieve that?’ The great thing about it is that the actual character is unique in a lot of ways. I can’t think of another character that’s like the leader of a nation and is a superhero at the same time. There are a lot of different ways this story can go, ways that they can do it, so I’m really just excited about how it fits into the bigger picture of what Marvel is doing.”
He’s Victor Domashev, not Victor Von Doom in our story. And I’m sure I’ll be sent to jail for telling you that. The Doom in ours—I’m a programmer. Very anti-social programmer. And on blogging sites I’m “Doom”.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
ZeroWolf wrote:Stan lee will be there and there's only one instance(off the top of my head) that they crossed over...Onslaught, and I don't think people have been asking for.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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