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However, after owning many MMC molds, I think their quality is worth it.

Barely.

On the other hand, my wallet does appreciate the long breaks....

Agamemnon wrote:However, after owning many MMC molds, I think their quality is worth it.

Barely.

On the other hand, my wallet does appreciate the long breaks....

Quality is great & usually there are very little problems. The bummer is that there are other companies with comparable QC that put out products much quicker after initial tease/reveal.

Doctor McGrath wrote:The bummer is that there are other companies with comparable QC that put out products much quicker after initial tease/reveal.

QFT...I'm glad some of you share my sentiment. Guess I'll just stick to the waiting game...

Okay. Is this a strange pre-order or am I high. What happened to the "wings?" At any rate, BBTS has some pre-orders up. I'll add pics to an edit...

Reformatted R-11 Seraphicus Prominon Core Figure $84.99

Reformatted R-11 Seraphicus Prominon Power Cradle - Early Bird Price - Save $20 $119.99

[Edit] Before the pictures, MMC's Reformatted page shows a pic of the wings under the R-11 entry.

Core figure:





Paint made a world of difference in improving this figure's look, in my opinion.

Power Cradle (Trailer):





Okay, what I mistook at two very large guns are the outer sheaths of the wings. I get it now.

However, it looks like these are two different purchases. For $119 on the combo, I was sold. Now, over $200 for this? I'm very much on the fence...

They unfold.



Look closely at that picture, you can see the "feathers" gathered together inside.

Edit: You noticed and edited while I posted.

I ordered them, but may cancel. I'm on the fence, too, but I'd rather not pay the extra $20 when the Early Bird disappears because I decided later that I in fact wanted it.

Midnight_Fox wrote:They unfold.

Look closely at that picture, you can see the "feathers" gathered together inside.

Thanks! As I was uploading the pics, and got a closer look at them, I noticed that too.

But, yikes, this one is expensive!

They removed the battle mask for super mode!? Now he has that Energon Prime big helmet look...

Where's his head??? Joking aside, I'm kind of disappointed with how sunken in Seraph's head is in armor mode. Still...Preordered. FINALLY!

Updated pre-order info. (And this is how they should have done it in the first place. Who is going to order the trailer without the core figure? O_o )

Reformatted R-11 Seraphicus Prominon Core Figure & Power Cradle Set - Early Bird Price - Save $25 $199.99

Still pretty steep of a price. Now I have to switch my pre-order around...

Comparison time .

MMC's alt mode has a glorious style to it

But it's far too steep a price for me, which is a shame, as I really wanted one, guess I'll have to wait for beelzeboss - or whomever's - bcop upgrade kit

That is pretty sweet looking. Honestly though, if I were to get him I'd have him as Prima rather than Nova Prime.

Really wish hasbro would get it through their thick heads that we want more than one villain, and give us Nova Prime - among others - at least they're kinda getting a clue with rid

Hellscream9999 wrote:Really wish hasbro would get it through their thick heads that we want more than one villain, and give us Nova Prime - among others - at least they're kinda getting a clue with rid

Wasn't the upcoming Sentinel hinted at being a not so good guy?

Doctor McGrath wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Really wish hasbro would get it through their thick heads that we want more than one villain, and give us Nova Prime - among others - at least they're kinda getting a clue with rid

Wasn't the upcoming Sentinel hinted at being a not so good guy?

Dunno, hope that's the case, I would've been okay with him being a new leader too, just nice to mix things up.

I stiil don't like it as much as Hyper Novae. To me it should just be called Prima with hints of Don Figeuroa designs. MakeToys has sharper details.

bvzxa wrote:I stiil don't like it as much as Hyper Novae. To me it should just be called Prima with hints of Don Figeuroa designs. MakeToys has sharper details.

I agree with you, mostly. I think MakeToys version looks better in armored mode & in alt mode. However, I think this version has a better looking base figure & since I missed out on the first version of Hyper Novae, I'll get more figure for my buck with this release than MT's on the secondary market. The Chosen Prime has a waiting list for MT's Nova but it's for $200. MMC's is bigger & cheaper than that with the early bird preorder.

All that said, I'll be happy enough with this guy. Looks fun & represnts a character I'm not emotionally attached to well enough. The movie prime-styled armor base for him to step into is really speaking to me.

Doctor McGrath wrote:

bvzxa wrote:I stiil don't like it as much as Hyper Novae. To me it should just be called Prima with hints of Don Figeuroa designs. MakeToys has sharper details.

I agree with you, mostly. I think MakeToys version looks better in armored mode & in alt mode. However, I think this version has a better looking base figure & since I missed out on the first version of Hyper Novae, I'll get more figure for my buck with this release than MT's on the secondary market. The Chosen Prime has a waiting list for MT's Nova but it's for $200. MMC's is bigger & cheaper than that with the early bird preorder.

All that said, I'll be happy enough with this guy. Looks fun & represnts a character I'm not emotionally attached to well enough. The movie prime-styled armor base for him to step into is really speaking to me.

Yeah I have him. I just like how the armored mode matches Don's design. I cant put my finger on it, but something is off about this one from MMC. I have their Sixshot and Impactor and I will get the DJD and those designs are spot on. I understand how people will go for this since for one it's much larger and basically for less than $200 you will get more for your money in terms of size. I hope it pleases everyone but the look of it is off.

bvzxa wrote:

Doctor McGrath wrote:

bvzxa wrote:I stiil don't like it as much as Hyper Novae. To me it should just be called Prima with hints of Don Figeuroa designs. MakeToys has sharper details.

I agree with you, mostly. I think MakeToys version looks better in armored mode & in alt mode. However, I think this version has a better looking base figure & since I missed out on the first version of Hyper Novae, I'll get more figure for my buck with this release than MT's on the secondary market. The Chosen Prime has a waiting list for MT's Nova but it's for $200. MMC's is bigger & cheaper than that with the early bird preorder.

All that said, I'll be happy enough with this guy. Looks fun & represnts a character I'm not emotionally attached to well enough. The movie prime-styled armor base for him to step into is really speaking to me.

Yeah I have him. I just like how the armored mode matches Don's design. I cant put my finger on it, but something is off about this one from MMC. I have their Sixshot and Impactor and I will get the DJD and those designs are spot on. I understand how people will go for this since for one it's much larger and basically for less than $200 you will get more for your money in terms of size. I hope it pleases everyone but the look of it is off.

I think there is something slightly off - proportionately - with the head, like it is too tall or too wide in normal form or something.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

Doctor McGrath wrote:

bvzxa wrote:I stiil don't like it as much as Hyper Novae. To me it should just be called Prima with hints of Don Figeuroa designs. MakeToys has sharper details.

I agree with you, mostly. I think MakeToys version looks better in armored mode & in alt mode. However, I think this version has a better looking base figure & since I missed out on the first version of Hyper Novae, I'll get more figure for my buck with this release than MT's on the secondary market. The Chosen Prime has a waiting list for MT's Nova but it's for $200. MMC's is bigger & cheaper than that with the early bird preorder.

All that said, I'll be happy enough with this guy. Looks fun & represnts a character I'm not emotionally attached to well enough. The movie prime-styled armor base for him to step into is really speaking to me.

Yeah I have him. I just like how the armored mode matches Don's design. I cant put my finger on it, but something is off about this one from MMC. I have their Sixshot and Impactor and I will get the DJD and those designs are spot on. I understand how people will go for this since for one it's much larger and basically for less than $200 you will get more for your money in terms of size. I hope it pleases everyone but the look of it is off.

I think there is something slightly off - proportionately - with the head, like it is too tall or too wide in normal form or something.

I agree. I need to see it in a reviewers hands then I can speak and decide. There are some things on the MT version I didn't like was the screw of pain, the thin plastic that holds the armor/wings, and having to add those clear orange parts to the wings. I bled on my fingers pushing in those parts. Plus it's unbalanced and very hard to get back into alt mode. However it looks right, it's got heft, and the plastic is very dense for the remainder of the toy.

bvzxa wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

Doctor McGrath wrote:

bvzxa wrote:I stiil don't like it as much as Hyper Novae. To me it should just be called Prima with hints of Don Figeuroa designs. MakeToys has sharper details.

I agree with you, mostly. I think MakeToys version looks better in armored mode & in alt mode. However, I think this version has a better looking base figure & since I missed out on the first version of Hyper Novae, I'll get more figure for my buck with this release than MT's on the secondary market. The Chosen Prime has a waiting list for MT's Nova but it's for $200. MMC's is bigger & cheaper than that with the early bird preorder.

All that said, I'll be happy enough with this guy. Looks fun & represnts a character I'm not emotionally attached to well enough. The movie prime-styled armor base for him to step into is really speaking to me.

Yeah I have him. I just like how the armored mode matches Don's design. I cant put my finger on it, but something is off about this one from MMC. I have their Sixshot and Impactor and I will get the DJD and those designs are spot on. I understand how people will go for this since for one it's much larger and basically for less than $200 you will get more for your money in terms of size. I hope it pleases everyone but the look of it is off.

I think there is something slightly off - proportionately - with the head, like it is too tall or too wide in normal form or something.

I agree. I need to see it in a reviewers hands then I can speak and decide. There are some things on the MT version I didn't like was the screw of pain, the thin plastic that holds the armor/wings, and having to add those clear orange parts to the wings. I bled on my fingers pushing in those parts. Plus it's unbalanced and very hard to get back into alt mode. However it looks right, it's got heft, and the plastic is very dense for the remainder of the toy.

On closer examination, I think the real culprit is the optical illusion created by the trapezoidal ab section. Combine that with the 'standard' sized pelvis, and the rapidly decreasing angle of his abs makes his chest and head 'seem' extra large/wide.



As you can see here, the head looks fine proportionately, however, the abs look very out of place, being as wide and weirdly angled as they are.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
On closer examination, I think the real culprit is the optical illusion created by the trapezoidal ab section. Combine that with the 'standard' sized pelvis, and the rapidly decreasing angle of his abs makes his chest and head 'seem' extra large/wide.



As you can see here, the head looks fine proportionately, however, the abs look very out of place, being as wide and weirdly angled as they are.

He looks like he's wearing a space suit, in a another space suit to me. It's really not Novae Prime at all. It has the elements, but it strays too far from the character. I wanna like it because the size is right on, but the design is something...I just cant find the words.

bvzxa wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
On closer examination, I think the real culprit is the optical illusion created by the trapezoidal ab section. Combine that with the 'standard' sized pelvis, and the rapidly decreasing angle of his abs makes his chest and head 'seem' extra large/wide.



As you can see here, the head looks fine proportionately, however, the abs look very out of place, being as wide and weirdly angled as they are.

He looks like he's wearing a space suit, in a another space suit to me. It's really not Novae Prime at all. It has the elements, but it strays too far from the character. I wanna like it because the size is right on, but the design is something...I just cant find the words.

Yeah, I love the truck mode, but it's too much, and doesn't look like my idea of what Nova should look like.



If it ain't this, I probably won't care

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Yeah, I love the truck mode, but it's too much, and doesn't look like my idea of what Nova should look like.



If it ain't this, I probably won't care

yeah MT is very close to what that picture is

bvzxa wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Yeah, I love the truck mode, but it's too much, and doesn't look like my idea of what Nova should look like.



If it ain't this, I probably won't care

yeah MT is very close to what that picture is

Yeah, he has a bit too much backpack for his character, I wanted that one that came out back in 2009-10. Now that was a work of art