Supercars are, by definition, very expensive and elite.
The Fairlady was an affordable sports car that's sold in the millions. It was used in racing, but I don't think it qualifies as a "supercar".
But if this was translated, then the original statement may not have meant supercar in the same way that we're interpreting it.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Japanese Wikipedia identifies a Supercar (スーパーカー Sūpākā) basically the same as American Wikipedia.
"スーパーカー" is the term Autobase Aichi uses.
"スーパーカー" is the term Autobase Aichi uses.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
Posted by GuyIncognito Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:44 pm
In that case, the Fairlady Z, a standard production car which was designed to be affordable by using parts from other Nissan cars, is pretty much the OPPOSITE of a supercar.
So what Supercars was he referring to? The Lamborghini obviously counts. I suppose the Lancia Stratos counts, too. (That's what Wheeljack is, right?)
So what Supercars was he referring to? The Lamborghini obviously counts. I suppose the Lancia Stratos counts, too. (That's what Wheeljack is, right?)
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Maybe he meant that he designed the MP version of the Fairlady Z to be a custom-made Supercar version of the Fairlady Z. Maybe Teletraan I happened to come across and scan one that somebody had taken and customized into a Supercar Fairlady Z.GuyIncognito wrote:In that case, the Fairlady Z, which was designed to be an AFFORDABLE sports car by using parts from other Nissan cars, is pretty much the OPPOSITE of a supercar.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Either he broadly used the term supercar lumping Fairlady Z in it. Or he is referring to another unmade car. Well, unless he is including MP Rodimus. That is a super-duper car 
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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There's also the notion of how the Decepticon Micromaster Sports Car Patrol was known as the Autobot Micro Transformer Super Car Patrol Team in Japan, and that team consisted of a Mitsubishi X2S concept car, a 1988 Ford Probe GT Turbo sports car, a Chevrolet Corvette Indy sports car, and a Ferrari sports car.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Courtesy of Weibo user 北马伊斯力 we have of a couple of page images from Figure King 193 that give us a look at the design process for MP-20 Wheeljack. Its' always interesting to get a glimpse of the behind the scenes work that goes into these figures. Check out the images mirrored below.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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does the missile launcher double to be the hypno ray device? They both look similar shape and size.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Amazon Japan has updated their pre-order for Takara Tomy's Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack with nice high res full color official images! Wheeljack is estimated to arrive in August. Check 'em out below!
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Really hope they make a toon-accurate redeco later on since I really don't care for the real life car-accurate deco, but the mold itself looks fantastic.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
Posted by Captain Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:30 pm
So does WJ look like this in G1? I don't remember the black windows?
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Nope!Captain wrote:So does WJ look like this in G1? I don't remember the black windows?
This deco is based on the real life Lancia Stratos instead of Wheeljack's cartoon colors.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
Posted by Captain Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:48 pm
That's what I thought. I hope at least Hasbro or Takara has the clear version windows. That black is a pass for me. 
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Captain wrote:That's what I thought. I hope at least Hasbro or Takara has the clear version windows. That black is a pass for me.
There will be a Hasbro version?
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Every time I see this, I think of Dr Smoov's "S.O.S. Wheeljack"
They need to release a version of this with a button for sound clips so we can hear him say "F@$# you Huffer!"
They need to release a version of this with a button for sound clips so we can hear him say "F@$# you Huffer!"
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Joetx wrote:Captain wrote:That's what I thought. I hope at least Hasbro or Takara has the clear version windows. That black is a pass for me.
There will be a Hasbro version?
We don't know if Hasbro will do one; they haven't released any of the (2) licensed cars to date. The next MP on their list is another Grimlock reissue.
At any rate, this deco doesn't look bad at all. Especially considering the original toy.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
Posted by kirbenvost Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:36 am
I agree the windows could be a lot less dark, but otherwise he looks amazing. That fourth pic is so cool, almost like he just jumped out of the cartoon. 
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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kirbenvost wrote:I agree the windows could be a lot less dark, but otherwise he looks amazing. That fourth pic is so cool, almost like he just jumped out of the cartoon.
I think Prime is the only MP not to have tinted windows... I guess they're trying to hide their holo-drivers
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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I know it's become something of a point of contention with some people, but for me, I love the vehicle Wheeljack was based on, so seeing it rendered so beautifully right down to the red rims on the wheels is fantastic.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
Posted by Cyberpath Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:44 am
Looks great! Looking at the photos I can almost hear Chris Latta's voice.
The windshield are consistent with the other Autobot cars.
It appears that the "wings" are made from clear plastic as a homage to the G1 toy.
The windshield are consistent with the other Autobot cars.
It appears that the "wings" are made from clear plastic as a homage to the G1 toy.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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Is this the official release or the KO..?
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
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The black is all dandy with me. I can even tolerate some of the excessive green.
My problem is with the bit of the hood still under windshield in bot mode. That is the biggest let down for me.
My problem is with the bit of the hood still under windshield in bot mode. That is the biggest let down for me.
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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion
Posted by craggy Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:43 am
the wings and windscreen on the original (or at least the Classics Heroes version I got) were a bit cloudy/dark than completely clear, so that doesn't bother me on this guy. looks pretty great.
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