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isnt this even i higher level of "one of a kind"? not only are we getting MP G1 cars, but we're getting versions of them that were the original inspirations for them. thats pretty special to me. and i bet theres enough diaclone fans, MP completists, and maybe even average fans that will like this enough to make it sell.Optimizzy wrote:ugh. I really don't know whats more irritating: A marlboor wheeljack turned into a new character that nobody really asked for turned into a masterpiece or that many of you seem excited.Sabrblade wrote:Cuz it's a brand new character never been given a TF toy until now.Optimizzy wrote:Im totally unfamiliar with this character.
The deco and remolding, however, are based on a variant of the Diaclone toy that would become G1 Wheeljack. A variant that had a different head and with colors and endorsement decals that promoted Malboro cigarettes, but with the word intentionally misspelled as "Marlboor". Hence, the figure was referred by fans as "Marlboor Wheeljack" for years until this toy finally gave it an official TF name.
Don't take it personal please, to each his own, but I get irritated at the "quick buck" mentality sometimes. Acid Rain and Sunstorm masterpieces are examples of that to me. Same with this. I expect "one of a kind" quality with masterpiece and it just seems like a more expensive version of everything else.
forgive me. in a bad mood.
Convoy wrote:Wasn't this the one MP mold they didn't have to worry about a redeco for? (I mean, for which they didn't have to worry about a redeco?) Maybe they didn't have to worry this time because they had it planned?
I guess that the didn't have to plan for a reuse of this mold but are still doing so anyway is a sign of their confidence in this mold's upcoming success.Convoy wrote:Wasn't this the one MP mold they didn't have to worry about a redeco for? (I mean, for which they didn't have to worry about a redeco?) Maybe they didn't have to worry this time because they had it planned?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
*literally laughed out loud*megatronus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Convoy wrote:Wasn't this the one MP mold they didn't have to worry about a redeco for? (I mean, for which they didn't have to worry about a redeco?) Maybe they didn't have to worry this time because they had it planned?
It's indeed the Wheeljack mold. And all of the primary retools were planned from the start I think. The likes of Sunstorm, Tigertrack and G2 Lambor can be considered "gambles": options kept open for a later date. Given Exhaust's obscurity, he could have been a gamble, but with the success of the line TakaraTomy probably felt confident enough to include him in the main line and not as a limited exclusive. What also helped that decision is that G1 mold was only used once and that the original toolings are confirmed lost so a proper reissue is out of the question.
datguy86 wrote:
Problem is, the uses for a Wheeljack MP mold are severely limited. You got Wheeljack, Smoke-Filled Delicious Wheeljack aka Exhaust, and Slicer. That "quick buck" mentality is what is going to pay for the extremely one-off MP Sunstreaker (hopefully) down the road. Because guess who Sunstreaker gets a redeco as? No one.
Hopefully Takara will prove me wrong and do a Diaclone Sunstreaker version named Nemo.
Optimizzy wrote:datguy86 wrote:
Problem is, the uses for a Wheeljack MP mold are severely limited. You got Wheeljack, Smoke-Filled Delicious Wheeljack aka Exhaust, and Slicer. That "quick buck" mentality is what is going to pay for the extremely one-off MP Sunstreaker (hopefully) down the road. Because guess who Sunstreaker gets a redeco as? No one.
Hopefully Takara will prove me wrong and do a Diaclone Sunstreaker version named Nemo.
That makes a lot of sense but I'm still irritated by it. I mean, maybe they shouldn't spend time designing transforming shoes and 20 year old game consoles and put that money into masterpieces and maybe thow wouldn't have to try to get a few sales on an obscure character. I like the loom of exhaust. It's neat they created a character to match Marlboro wheel jack but it's not a character I want a "masterpiece" of if you get my meaning. Sunstreaker on the other hand, is.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
BERSEKAEL wrote:Interesting, now I understand this colors:
besides I pass, I prefer references based on the cartoon.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
I think BERSEKAEL means that he understands what Cyberverse Wheeljack's colors were based on.megatronus wrote:BERSEKAEL wrote:Interesting, now I understand this colors:
besides I pass, I prefer references based on the cartoon.
Exhaust definitely doesn't homage TF:Prime Cyberverse, just the opposite.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
BBTS wrote:Hi - We wanted to update you about a new development in regards to your preorder of the Transformers Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust figure with coin from Takara. We were just contacted by a law firm on behalf of Marlboro & Phillip Morris USA. They informed us that the MP-23 Exhaust figure infringes on their trademark and trade dress for products marketed and sold in the USA.
The mark in question is generally shaped like this:
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This mark is found on the hood/roof of the MP-23 car in red, and also in smaller green shapes on the left and right fenders. They are concerned because these marks cannot be used on products that could be intended for children as dictated by the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Ma ... _Agreement).
We must comply with the requests they have made in order to avoid legal action with Phillip Morris. We have removed the MP-23 listing from our website. Your preorders have been transferred to a generic unpublished listing in case the product is changed or modified before release and would no longer be infringing. If the product is not changed, we will cancel all preorders and we will not be able to sell this product.
We apologize for the trouble on this item.
Thanks!
Joel Boblit
President
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
BigBadToyStore.com wrote:Hi - We wanted to update you about a new development in regards to your preorder of the Transformers Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust figure from Takara. We were just contacted by a law firm on behalf of Marlboro & Phillip Morris USA. They informed us that the MP-23 Exhaust figure infringes on their trademark and trade dress for products marketed and sold in the USA.
The mark in question is generally shaped like this:
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|/\|
This mark is found on the hood/roof of the MP-23 car in red, and also in smaller green shapes on the left and right fenders. They are concerned because these marks cannot be used on products that could be intended for children as dictated by the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Ma ... _Agreement).
We must comply with the requests they have made in order to avoid legal action with Phillip Morris. We have removed the MP-23 listing from our website. Your preorders have been transferred to a generic unpublished listing in case the product is changed or modified before release and would no longer be infringing. If the product is not changed, we will cancel all preorders and we will not be able to sell this product.
We apologize for the trouble on this item.
Thanks!
Joel Boblit
President
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Well, remember when retailers had difficulty being allowed to legally sell MP-5 Megatron without first having to put an orange tip on it?JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wow, their lawyers are smart cookies.
So let me get this straight: TakaraTomy is allowed to sell Exhaust as is in Japan, but importing him into the US is a no-no?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Well, remember when retailers had difficulty being allowed to legally sell MP-5 Megatron without first having to put an orange tip on it?JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wow, their lawyers are smart cookies.
So let me get this straight: TakaraTomy is allowed to sell Exhaust as is in Japan, but importing him into the US is a no-no?
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