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Autobot032 wrote:And let's not forget... Hasbro, in the past, has told us time and again that we, the fans, are not their main focus and never have been. That we make up barely 10% of their sales (I had once heard it was closer to 7, maybe 8%) and when you keep hearing that, you can't help but take it as "Oh...okay. Well, alright then." 3rd parties come along and say they'll take our business, well of course a fan wants to hear that. Are they using that to get to our wallets? Sure, but the 3rd parties never promised otherwise, either. They never claimed they were doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.
Autobot032 wrote:Seibertron wrote:It's sad to see so many fans staunchly defending 3rd party products. What's even more bizarre to me is that many of you think you have a right to those products. It's odd that it's so black and white to myself and to others yet so muddied for everyone else. The "as long as I get what I want to get regardless of how I get it" attitude that is so prevalent amongst 3rd party collectors baffles me.
You know what baffles me? That you (and others who share your opinion) feel you have the right to judge your fellow fans and collectors because they do things differently from you. It's sad to see a fan decry 3rd party, and stop promoting it, but continues to keep the galleries of past 3rd party products alive. I'd think if one were to truly take a stand against 3rd parties, they'd do it in whole, not just part of the way. Let me make it clear: This is not a dig, this is not an attack, it's pointing out a hypocrisy that makes zero sense and has frustrated me and many (I do mean many) others.
Yet, you and others of the same mindset can sit there and call what we do sad and bizarre and entitled. We're all sad, bizarre and entitled, even you. The majority of us are adults either living with a significant other, or a family member and we have more toys than most stores. We watch cartoons, we watch movies based on cartoons, we read comics based on toys and cartoons. We even wear apparel and modify our bodies to show that we do just that. But, instead of trying to make others feel bad about this, why not embrace it? The world *IS* weird and we're a part of this world. We should embrace our weirdness, follow what makes us happy. And we should do it without judgment of any kind.
fenrir72 wrote:But shouldn't this be about Exhaust and flabbergasted the fans in the continental United States are becaus eof this very asinine ruling?
Autobot032 wrote:
There are many items that 3rd party produces that require the HasTak original item in a clear-cut manner. The DMY Pharonic kit for PRID Megatron, for example. It's a bunch of pieces in a box, those pieces clearly need the Hasbro figure for them to work.
The Perfect Effect Menasor and Superion add-on kits, you absolutely need the Hasbro product to make these pieces work. They're useless otherwise. As I said, that set is getting me to consider buying Hasbro's Menasor, and I already have a great Menasor (FP's) in my collection.
Those are just two very good examples and proof that you can support 3rd party without hurting Hasbro's bottom line and not be a traitor. Reprolabels prints out sticker sheets with official Hasbro logos slapped all over them, all the time and nobody bats an eye.
SkyWarpt wrote:I'm not going to quote and waste space. I don't judge, I just don't agree and choose to vote with my dollar. In order for Stacks to be ditched it had to be purchased again, still taking away purchases from the IP holder. The concept is very well protected in video media.
I agree with PM and Has/Tak decision to clean their hands on this. PM did Has/Tak a favor, albeit protecting themselves at the same time. This is no different than us having to wait years for a VW Bumblebee. Proper licensing was not obtained, nor was it legal in the first place. The Marlboro usage flew back in the diaclone days, but that was a different time. I'm not against 3rd party add ons, reprolabels are a great answer to the whole Exhaust issue. Furthermore, I do hope to see an MP Jazz and would rather create or purchase Martini labels and apply myself than Has/Tak go through this again...it wasn't a problem with binaltech.
shajaki wrote:How do you reveiw stuff still in the box?chuckdawg1999 wrote:With Exhaust being released I guess I should get around to opening Wheeljack...
chuckdawg1999 wrote:shajaki wrote:How do you reveiw stuff still in the box?chuckdawg1999 wrote:With Exhaust being released I guess I should get around to opening Wheeljack...
"It's A Kind Of Magic"
Flashwave wrote:It bugs me, cause I'm not on any other Transformers fansites, but because of the stance that Seibertron has to/chooses to, I do miss out on the fun add-ons like Combiner accesories, or Generations Hoist's wings. But that's the neatur eof the game and I don't see why its always such a drawn out topic?
Autobot032 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:shajaki wrote:How do you reveiw stuff still in the box?chuckdawg1999 wrote:With Exhaust being released I guess I should get around to opening Wheeljack...
"It's A Kind Of Magic"
Highlander reference ftw!
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:shajaki wrote:How do you reveiw stuff still in the box?chuckdawg1999 wrote:With Exhaust being released I guess I should get around to opening Wheeljack...
"It's A Kind Of Magic"
Highlander reference ftw!
Well it was more a Queen reference at the time... I gotta say seeing Exhaust in hand it really looks good, although I'm concerned that I saw blue tinted, clear plastic in the foot joints that have to bend at two points. Those might break over time.
-Kanrabat- wrote:YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
Blast Cannon wrote:This thread is brilliant. Duragrip you are a gloriously weird sexual deviant and I love it.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Got an email this morning from Nippon-Yasan saying that exhaust was available for the bargain basement price of 16,000 yen.
fenrir72 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Got an email this morning from Nippon-Yasan saying that exhaust was available for the bargain basement price of 16,000 yen.
I saw that too! Btw, they just posted the font "Masterpiece" and no picture. Retailing at the equivalent $ 130 +
Autobot032 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Got an email this morning from Nippon-Yasan saying that exhaust was available for the bargain basement price of 16,000 yen.
I saw that too! Btw, they just posted the font "Masterpiece" and no picture. Retailing at the equivalent $ 130 +
Dey out dey minez...
Seriously though, that's a ridiculous price and they know it. I can foresee Exhaust becoming one very expensive MP grail for a lot of collectors. I'll bet he'll be worth half a grand a few years down the road.
sol magnus wrote:Autobot032 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Got an email this morning from Nippon-Yasan saying that exhaust was available for the bargain basement price of 16,000 yen.
I saw that too! Btw, they just posted the font "Masterpiece" and no picture. Retailing at the equivalent $ 130 +
Dey out dey minez...
Seriously though, that's a ridiculous price and they know it. I can foresee Exhaust becoming one very expensive MP grail for a lot of collectors. I'll bet he'll be worth half a grand a few years down the road.
I almost feel like I should have bought two, just to store one away for that sort of thing. But I just don't want to be a neckbeard.
fenrir72 wrote:sol magnus wrote:Autobot032 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Got an email this morning from Nippon-Yasan saying that exhaust was available for the bargain basement price of 16,000 yen.
I saw that too! Btw, they just posted the font "Masterpiece" and no picture. Retailing at the equivalent $ 130 +
Dey out dey minez...
Seriously though, that's a ridiculous price and they know it. I can foresee Exhaust becoming one very expensive MP grail for a lot of collectors. I'll bet he'll be worth half a grand a few years down the road.
I almost feel like I should have bought two, just to store one away for that sort of thing. But I just don't want to be a neckbeard.
Neckbeard? To paraphrase Scourge..........."No need to be insulting"
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:sol magnus wrote:Autobot032 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Got an email this morning from Nippon-Yasan saying that exhaust was available for the bargain basement price of 16,000 yen.
I saw that too! Btw, they just posted the font "Masterpiece" and no picture. Retailing at the equivalent $ 130 +
Dey out dey minez...
Seriously though, that's a ridiculous price and they know it. I can foresee Exhaust becoming one very expensive MP grail for a lot of collectors. I'll bet he'll be worth half a grand a few years down the road.
I almost feel like I should have bought two, just to store one away for that sort of thing. But I just don't want to be a neckbeard.
Neckbeard? To paraphrase Scourge..........."No need to be insulting"
Ha, indeed. Guess that makes me a neckbeard.
I buy two of every MP release (and in the case of Takara MP10, it may end up being 3), for a couple reasons:
1. I think it will be more expensive down the road to backtrack should one break, experience significant wear, or sun damage, etc., and I like to have a replacement at the ready should I need it.
2. I'm also a MISB collector, and it gives me a (false) sense of security to have a pristine one stored away, untouched by human hands.
This is by no means sustainable for most, or for me for that matter. All it means is that I'm a crazy person, and apparently, a neckbeard.
That all said, I'm a bit anxious since I was only able to put in an order for 1 Exhaust before preorders were removed (I normally try and a get a 'Mint Box' grade one from American retailers when these things go on sale).
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
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