NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:look, as a moviemaker, Michael Bay sucks.
Sure he makes lots of money. Blockbusters. But the movie itself? Forgotten in a year. Except maybe The Rock.
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He basically ruined Transformers. Sure it sell merch. But will a whole generation fall in love with it, like the old TF? No.
And it looks like ROTF is more of the same tripe. Unfortunately. At least it leaves room for a real reboot, like Batman. Its not that I expect that level of film making, just someone see potential for a memorable movie AND make it their own.
Megatron Wolf wrote:Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:He basically ruined Transformers.
Prime Riblet wrote:The real deal is that if a director catered to the hardcore fanbase, there wouldn't be a second film-and to some, that is ok. People would have passed on the whole idea of even trying to make the first film if there wasn't a really great chance to make a huge profit. As stated by numerous people, if you don't like the Movieverse then go and find another TF universe that suits. Too many people are just going crazy with rage over these movies, but why not gripe about how cheesy the Energon series is? Or the Animated? There isn't a TF line or series without fault, and Michael Bay hasn't run the franchise into the ground. My god, before the 07 movie came out "Transformers" was starting wither and crumble. The 07 movie freaking revitalized the franchise and kept it from going the way of the Dodo bird. Now people who never gave a second thought to this stuff (that we all have liked for a long time) suddenly know who Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are. I mean come on guys, give the **** a rest. Opinions are ok. But a lot of people seem to think this crap is fact. It's a damn movie. Big deal. Jesus.
wingdarkness wrote:Prime Riblet wrote:The real deal is that if a director catered to the hardcore fanbase, there wouldn't be a second film-and to some, that is ok. People would have passed on the whole idea of even trying to make the first film if there wasn't a really great chance to make a huge profit. As stated by numerous people, if you don't like the Movieverse then go and find another TF universe that suits. Too many people are just going crazy with rage over these movies, but why not gripe about how cheesy the Energon series is? Or the Animated? There isn't a TF line or series without fault, and Michael Bay hasn't run the franchise into the ground. My god, before the 07 movie came out "Transformers" was starting wither and crumble. The 07 movie freaking revitalized the franchise and kept it from going the way of the Dodo bird. Now people who never gave a second thought to this stuff (that we all have liked for a long time) suddenly know who Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are. I mean come on guys, give the **** a rest. Opinions are ok. But a lot of people seem to think this crap is fact. It's a damn movie. Big deal. Jesus.
I mean is this what it really comes down to? Are we that simple and pedestrian of a people to think if you make a movie based on something that just caters to the lowest common denominator it should be praised if not simply ignored...Any incarnation by the big studious was gonna have some cool CGI and transforming effects (This is for people who somehow still think Micheal Bay created the “Make Money Action Movie Genre”…TF sells itself and never need Bay to legitimize it (Again for people who think Bay is the only director in history to make a movie with explosions—I think people really believe this)…Ofcourse a movie with a good script to go along with good action couldn’t have revitalized a franchise the way Bay did? Yeah that’s sarcasm…Who’s thinking crap is fact now?
Some people (Including Bay with every preemptive strike against movies with a brain) thinks that hardcores or loyalist, or whomever wanted this Oscar-worthy story that would envelope our hearts and minds for years to come rather than what we really wanted, which was: A movie adaptation beyond generic bull$hit…Argue what you will but Bay movies are the breathing ground for the most vacuous generalities in all of the profession…So excuse us if some of us who were aware of this had to object if not voice our opinions on this the only way most of us knew how…As much as his movies sucked I never really had a gripe against the dude until he picked up source material that I truly cared for…Then his attitude towards the fanbase and TF fans in general pretty much validated my loathing of the man…But why be angry or upset with this to the point of voicing an opinion, right?
So you got what you wanted man – A mediocre TF franchise with Baymorphing Mountain Dew machines to boot...I didn’t get what I wanted, so as my frustration grows @ yet another round of ape-food getting shoved down my throat, I choose to voice an opinion… So honestly you should be the one giving this $hit a rest…You’ve won…We frustrated TF fans know that all we’ll get is a couple of weeks or months to verbalize our frustration on the internet then we’ll be forgotten again and a 3rd version of this $hit will come out….With that being said, one man’s crazy is another man’s sanity…When I hear or don’t hear certain things when it comes to accepting this franchise, I think about how sane I really must be…
Skullgrin140 wrote:I'm assuming that if Michael Bay isnt coming back for the third film then he will possibly serve as the film's producer or something, I am just wondering if the director of the third film will take the explosive approach that Bay always does to his films.
Prime Riblet wrote:If you don't like it, then DO NOT WATCH IT! If it is so bad, then do whatever it is people have to do to be a director, producer, screenwriter, Hasbro executive, toy designer, cgi designer etc. These people busted their asses (for the most part) to do what they wanted in life and have an impact on the things they wanted to impact. The opportunity is there, so start busting some ass and get it done. But if people want to sit around and whine about the movies or criticize the people watching them, then just be prepared to have a few people consider your opinions to be less relevant than what they could be.
Michael Bay is not quitting Transformers
Steamed_Ham wrote:(Peter Berg also but only because he was the star of Shocker)
Prime Riblet wrote:I actually agree with everything you just wrote. I am just as idealistic in my vision of what a perfect Transformer Universe would be, and I don't want to be a total advocate for everything that Michael Bay is doing or has done in the past. Most of his movies are not what I would consider worthy of acclaim and so many other people in the world of cinema could have done a far better job telling the story of Transformers. Bay absolutely aims for the lowest common denominator is his films, and most if not all of us at this site would have loved for someone who really does care about the TF franchise to be at the helm of the 07 movie as well as RoTF. It sucks! It really does suck that we can't get something better! Something that really takes in to account the history of Transformers and the Universes that have been created in the past 2.5 decades! It sucks and it is not fair.
wingdarkness wrote:Burn wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.
Who is this "us" you refer to?
He's talking about "me"...Me and him = "us"...And "us" are quite dissapointed by Hackeal Bay's most recent mindrape...This guy is a car engine fueled by our hate...He'll always be driving on "E"...
wingdarkness wrote:Prime Riblet wrote:The real deal is that if a director catered to the hardcore fanbase, there wouldn't be a second film-and to some, that is ok. People would have passed on the whole idea of even trying to make the first film if there wasn't a really great chance to make a huge profit. As stated by numerous people, if you don't like the Movieverse then go and find another TF universe that suits. Too many people are just going crazy with rage over these movies, but why not gripe about how cheesy the Energon series is? Or the Animated? There isn't a TF line or series without fault, and Michael Bay hasn't run the franchise into the ground. My god, before the 07 movie came out "Transformers" was starting wither and crumble. The 07 movie freaking revitalized the franchise and kept it from going the way of the Dodo bird. Now people who never gave a second thought to this stuff (that we all have liked for a long time) suddenly know who Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are. I mean come on guys, give the **** a rest. Opinions are ok. But a lot of people seem to think this crap is fact. It's a damn movie. Big deal. Jesus.
I mean is this what it really comes down to? Are we that simple and pedestrian of a people to think if you make a movie based on something that just caters to the lowest common denominator it should be praised if not simply ignored...Any incarnation by the big studious was gonna have some cool CGI and transforming effects (This is for people who somehow still think Micheal Bay created the “Make Money Action Movie Genre”…TF sells itself and never need Bay to legitimize it (Again for people who think Bay is the only director in history to make a movie with explosions—I think people really believe this)…Ofcourse a movie with a good script to go along with good action couldn’t have revitalized a franchise the way Bay did? Yeah that’s sarcasm…Who’s thinking crap is fact now?
Some people (Including Bay with every preemptive strike against movies with a brain) thinks that hardcores or loyalist, or whomever wanted this Oscar-worthy story that would envelope our hearts and minds for years to come rather than what we really wanted, which was: A movie adaptation beyond generic bull$hit…Argue what you will but Bay movies are the breathing ground for the most vacuous generalities in all of the profession…So excuse us if some of us who were aware of this had to object if not voice our opinions on this the only way most of us knew how…As much as his movies sucked I never really had a gripe against the dude until he picked up source material that I truly cared for…Then his attitude towards the fanbase and TF fans in general pretty much validated my loathing of the man…But why be angry or upset with this to the point of voicing an opinion, right?
So you got what you wanted man – A mediocre TF franchise with Baymorphing Mountain Dew machines to boot...I didn’t get what I wanted, so as my frustration grows @ yet another round of ape-food getting shoved down my throat, I choose to voice an opinion… So honestly you should be the one giving this $hit a rest…You’ve won…We frustrated TF fans know that all we’ll get is a couple of weeks or months to verbalize our frustration on the internet then we’ll be forgotten again and a 3rd version of this $hit will come out….With that being said, one man’s crazy is another man’s sanity…When I hear or don’t hear certain things when it comes to accepting this franchise, I think about how sane I really must be…
Terrorsaur_85 wrote:wingdarkness wrote:Burn wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.
Who is this "us" you refer to?
He's talking about "me"...Me and him = "us"...And "us" are quite dissapointed by Hackeal Bay's most recent mindrape...This guy is a car engine fueled by our hate...He'll always be driving on "E"...
too bad your hate will be over shadowed by the money the film makes-- and how many people will see it and love it. i know a chick who wasn't into transformers till the first movie came out--- and so the film made her curious of the g1 and beastwars she missed out. so yeah...your hate is no match for the love new fans have for the awesome film---ever!
Coolyfett wrote:wingdarkness wrote:Prime Riblet wrote:The real deal is that if a director catered to the hardcore fanbase, there wouldn't be a second film-and to some, that is ok. People would have passed on the whole idea of even trying to make the first film if there wasn't a really great chance to make a huge profit. As stated by numerous people, if you don't like the Movieverse then go and find another TF universe that suits. Too many people are just going crazy with rage over these movies, but why not gripe about how cheesy the Energon series is? Or the Animated? There isn't a TF line or series without fault, and Michael Bay hasn't run the franchise into the ground. My god, before the 07 movie came out "Transformers" was starting wither and crumble. The 07 movie freaking revitalized the franchise and kept it from going the way of the Dodo bird. Now people who never gave a second thought to this stuff (that we all have liked for a long time) suddenly know who Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are. I mean come on guys, give the **** a rest. Opinions are ok. But a lot of people seem to think this crap is fact. It's a damn movie. Big deal. Jesus.
I mean is this what it really comes down to? Are we that simple and pedestrian of a people to think if you make a movie based on something that just caters to the lowest common denominator it should be praised if not simply ignored...Any incarnation by the big studious was gonna have some cool CGI and transforming effects (This is for people who somehow still think Micheal Bay created the “Make Money Action Movie Genre”…
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You make some valid points man. I would suggest that you try to hide your opinion until your post count is higher though. Just FYI. It really sucks how the franchise is being raped the way it is mate. Like me, I think you are apart of the minority when it comes to this major tragedy of events. All we can do now is try to push for an eventual good Transformers movie with TF3. The other movies are done and officially in the books. Nothing the Real fans can do about it. Peace
Robinson wrote:#-o
Again, I ask you what constitutes a "Real" transformers fan?
Terrorsaur_85 wrote:wingdarkness wrote:Burn wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:Son of a bitch. well all there is to do now is hope the movie tanks so he gets fired. It wont happen since all summer movie drones will be feeding the fire that is this crap franchise with their money completely screwing us over once again.
Who is this "us" you refer to?
He's talking about "me"...Me and him = "us"...And "us" are quite dissapointed by Hackeal Bay's most recent mindrape...This guy is a car engine fueled by our hate...He'll always be driving on "E"...
too bad your hate will be over shadowed by the money the film makes-- and how many people will see it and love it. i know a chick who wasn't into transformers till the first movie came out--- and so the film made her curious of the g1 and beastwars she missed out. so yeah...your hate is no match for the love new fans have for the awesome film---ever!
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