>
shop.seibertron.com amazon.seibertron.com Facebook Twitter X YouTube Pinterest Instagram Myspace LinkedIn Patreon Podcast RSS
This page runs on affiliate links — your clicks may earn us a few Shanix. Want the full transmission? Roll out to our Affiliate Disclosure.

Is Optimus Prime A Realistic Model For Leadership?

There is more to Transformers than movies, cartoons, comics and toys. Discuss anything else Transformers here.

Re: Is Optimus Prime A Realistic Model For Leadership?

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:56 am

Motto: "Continue building from within,attack your designated target,defend everyone."
Weapon: Double-Barreled, Armor-Piercing Particle Beam Cann...
Had I been asked the question without ever having read this post I would have immediately said Optimus is a great leader, so thank you to everyone for their eye opening commentary.

Does Optimus embrace the ideals and qualities of a good leader? Yes, the younger he is (either by version specific age or series in order of appearance), yes, he definitely EMBRACES them. It seems he can't carry them all without dropping some from time to time.

I guess there are different types of leaders which embody different...degrees?...aspects?...of leadership.

Movieverse Optimus is perhaps a War Chieftain and a Crisis leader, but not a Knight analogue or an effective (by Earth business standards) ambassadorial head.I can't talk about Generalship yet, he hasn't had the chance to walk this walk for real so far.

G1 Optimus has a streak of Knighthood, but is defined as a Military leader, not General, Ground warfare commander-in-chief or whatever, so either the Cybertyronians don't bother with such ranks or nobody would accept to call him by that rank 'cuz he just didn't have it in him. Ultimately, G1 Optimus is a person attempting to carry all the ideals of the Pre-corruption era Autobots through to the post-apocalypse rebuild.Maybe he's a Demagogue?

You get the idea. I think he is a good leader, at least he has been in my view so far, not necessarily because I Idolozed Optimus and looked to him conciously but I have caught myself remembering the Optimus example on some occasions where I needed to sort events out.

My suggestion is that Optimus may have a different sociological pressure in regards to troop losses since his fighters are predominantly designated Warriors, not Soldiers, and as such have a different modus operandi:

-soldiers stave of death for as long as possible for tactical reasons.
-warriors accept the likelihood of death for ideological reasons.

whereas:

-A Commander, who by defenition will issue commands,is not required to lead, but to analyze.(He can still opt to also lead,tho).
-A Leader, who by defenition will lead, can do so from the front,back,low orbit,a holy text,a historical example (even a failed one!) and by TF standards, from within the Matrix.

When 'Bee gets caught,Prime has to lead Sam, Mikaela and each of the Autobots, including captured 'Bee, from different angles. In effect he's leading something greater: He's leading Cybertron, but from sleep to awakening.
Kinda-Sorta, Prime and Megzypoo are also trying to lead each other into their version of the light.
"Everyone has a hobby.Even people who say they don't still have one under another name.If we're sick,injured, we still go to it and get down to see how it is.If it needs something, we bring it,make sure the attention is perfect.It exercises our care and protection and gives us back philosophies.It's a living thing to us,and is the most perfect way to teach a young person how to be towards a living thing. It's something that should never be taken away."
-my Wife
G1 Smoketreader
Headmaster Jr
Posts: 578
Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:54 am
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 8
Endurance: 8
Rank: 10+
Courage: 9
Firepower: 9
Skill: 8

Previous

Return to Transformers General Discussion


[ Incoming message. Source unknown. ] No Signal - Please Stand By [ Click to attempt signal recovery... ]


Transformers and More @ The Seibertron Store

Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #319 Cvr A Image Comics 0625IM311 319A (CA) Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #315 Cvr B Image Comics 0125IM371 315B (CA) Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "THE TRANSFORMERS #30 Marvel Comics 1987 (W) Budiansky (CA) Budiansky 250226"
THE TRANSFORMERS # ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "THE TRANSFORMERS #30 Marvel Comics 1987 (W) Budiansky (CA) Budiansky 250225"
THE TRANSFORMERS # ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #319 Cvr B Image Comics 0625IM312 319B (CA) Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #314 Cvr B Image Comics 1224IM286 314B (CA) Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "THE TRANSFORMERS #20 Marvel Comics 1986 (A/CA) Trimpe (W) Budiansky 2412111"
THE TRANSFORMERS # ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #306 Cvr C 1:10 Image Comics 0324IM240 306C (CA)Walker"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #310 Cvr B Image Comics 0724IM354 310B (CA) Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "THE TRANSFORMERS #12 Marvel Comics 1986 (A/CA) Trimpe (W) Budiansky 250228"
THE TRANSFORMERS # ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #312 Cvr C 1:10 Image Comics 1024IM356 312C Portela"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #319 Cvr C 1:10 Image Comics 0625IM313 319C Portela"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #313 Cvr B Image Comics 1124IM315 313B (CA) Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GI JOE Real American Hero #303 Cvr B Image Comics 2024 1123IM282 303B (CA)Kubert"
GI JOE Real Americ ...
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.
Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #382 - Vote or Die
Twincast / Podcast #382:
"Vote or Die"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Wednesday, December 31st, 1969

Featured Products on Amazon.com

Buy "Transformers Studio Series 12 Voyager Class Movie 1 Decepticon Brawl" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Deluxe Misfire and Aimless" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Bumblebee Movie Toys, Energon Igniters Nitro Bumblebee Action Figure - Included Core Powers Driving Action - Toys for Kids 6 and Up, 7-inch" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 09 Voyager Class Movie 2 Thundercracker" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Terrorcon Cutthroat" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Deluxe Windblade and Scorchfire" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series Number 14 Voyager Class Autobot Ironhide" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Voyager Class Elita-1" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Voyager Class Silverbolt Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titan Masters Fangry Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Autobot Perceptor and Convex" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Leader Class Armada Megatron Figure" on AMAZON
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.