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metaphorge wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Rumble eh? Wouldn't it be a sick joke if it was the HFTD scout mold and they just packaged and sold it as a deluxe?

Actually that would be awesome; it would be nice to be able to get that mold for less than eight times the American retail price for a Scout.

At the rate we're going, Deluxes will be about the size of Scouts in a year or two anyway:

That picture is very misleading. If you look at them straight on from above, RID Cliffjumper is way closer to the FE version in size than it is to Windcharger, who is large for a scout anyway. Check out Peaugh's review for proof.

nice, and just watch them fu*k up the new bulkhead mold. i dont know why they just use the FE molds. idiots.

This line is looking and sounding pretty great. Some may be small, but for the most part, they look to be in pretty good scale with one another. The FE versions look to be out of scale with RID and at this point I'll just forget about them. Hope to see a voyager Ultra Magnus soon.

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:That picture is very misleading. If you look at them straight on from above, RID Cliffjumper is way closer to the FE version in size than it is to Windcharger, who is large for a scout anyway. Check out Peaugh's review for proof.

Both Prime Cliffjumpers are kind of dinky compared to earlier Deluxes in car mode, though a portion of that is probably because Cliffjumper would be a fairly large (and long) car if he were real.

My United Jazz is making FE Cliffjumper look tiny when they're parked side-by-side. I should pull out Cybertron Overdrive or his Big Daddy repaint for the sake of comparison, since their alt-modes are a similar type of car as Cliffjumper's.

craggy wrote:maybe Skyquake was a first edition prototype, that they're only going to show you pictures of once, and never release!

If you look at the pre-image of skyquakes voyager, his cockpit piece is clear (of course) and it looks like part of his forearms are translucent plastic as well

kirbenvost wrote:

metaphorge wrote:

Luscanun wrote:I assume Ironhide will be a Ratchet repaint/redeco?

Not if it matches the Cyberverse version:

Nice, I'd love a bigger version of that!

Edit: Waitaminute...I'm seeing similarities with movie Ironhide there. I really hope he's more of a G1 homage. If they want to give him the character of Bayverse 'Hide, okay, just as long as he's red.

Aside from the realy dumb ways Hasbro is handling it, this is still shaping up to be a really great line. The only ones I'm really unimpressed by so far are Powerizer Prime & Revealer Ratchet. I don't know where I'm going to find the space to display them all!

Whered you find these images, 'hides my favorite

Hypershock wrote:Whered you find these images, 'hides my favorite

I don't remember where I initially saw a picture of the slide, but I found this one to repost the picture using Google image search. I believe this was taken at Hasbro's presentation at last year's NYCC, though it might have been at SDCC or Botcon.

Hypershock wrote:

craggy wrote:maybe Skyquake was a first edition prototype, that they're only going to show you pictures of once, and never release!

If you look at the pre-image of skyquakes voyager, his cockpit piece is clear (of course) and it looks like part of his forearms are translucent plastic as well

a)I already did before I posted that, b)it's already been pointed out in the thread and c)it was clearly a joke, which I'm not going to explain if you didn't get it the first or 2nd time around.

Doubledealer93 wrote:nice, and just watch them fu*k up the new bulkhead mold. i dont know why they just use the FE molds. idiots.

the only reason I can think is that maybe the FE molds are too expensive to keep making? Maybe someone at Hasbro made a mistake, and everyone else down the line went with it, until eventually someone said "hey, wait a minute, these are costing us $2 to make here, we can't afford these! hey, hey, jimmy, go get me some stripped down, cut up and nonsensical versions of these guys, quick!"

While I love the fact that hasbro is really expanding this line at a tremendous rate, pictures and approximate release dates would go a long way. The rest of the line seems to be taking forever to show up anywhere and at this rate we won't see these figures until about 2014.

Im definitely getting ironhide, cuz he's my alltime favorite airachnid and breakdown possibly, i wana see how they handle their molds, especially airachnid. Ill get bulkhead if its not total crap like SOME Rid's we know

metaphorge wrote:My United Jazz is making FE Cliffjumper look tiny when they're parked side-by-side. I should pull out Cybertron Overdrive or his Big Daddy repaint for the sake of comparison, since their alt-modes are a similar type of car as Cliffjumper's.

Downshift?

craggy wrote:the only reason I can think is that maybe the FE molds are too expensive to keep making? Maybe someone at Hasbro made a mistake, and everyone else down the line went with it, until eventually someone said "hey, wait a minute, these are costing us $2 to make here, we can't afford these! hey, hey, jimmy, go get me some stripped down, cut up and nonsensical versions of these guys, quick!"

As I asked elsewhere, has anyone done a comparison of the total number of parts between a First Edition and a Robots in Disguise version? I don't have any RID in hand, but it looks like they have a lower part count, which would cut assembly time and thus cut labor costs, which have what has been ballooning at a high rate of speed.

Another possibility would be losing access to some or all of the FE toolings, which could result from a factory dispute. Does anyone know whether the First Editions were made in China or in Vietnam; how about the Robots in Disguise versions? I know Takara Tomy was relocating at least a portion of their manufacturing to Vietnam, but I'm unsure where they are in this process (or where they were when the First Edition toys were made, which could have been a fair amount of time ago).

I have no FE or PRID toys. Hasbro doesn't love me.

waaaaghlord wrote:

metaphorge wrote:Cybertron Overdrive

Downshift?

Yes, that's what I meant. I always did get my Omnibots confused....

metaphorge wrote:Does anyone know whether the First Editions were made in China or in Vietnam; how about the Robots in Disguise versions? I know Takara Tomy was relocating at least a portion of their manufacturing to Vietnam, but I'm unsure where they are in this process (or where they were when the First Edition toys were made, which could have been a fair amount of time ago).

While many of the Japanese releases from United and DOTM lines have "Made in Vietnam" stamped on them, the Takara First Edition Prime figures are all marked "Made in China." I think you may be on to something here...

tekering wrote:

metaphorge wrote:Does anyone know whether the First Editions were made in China or in Vietnam; how about the Robots in Disguise versions? I know Takara Tomy was relocating at least a portion of their manufacturing to Vietnam, but I'm unsure where they are in this process (or where they were when the First Edition toys were made, which could have been a fair amount of time ago).

While many of the Japanese releases from United and DOTM lines have "Made in Vietnam" stamped on them, the Takara First Edition Prime figures are all marked "Made in China." I think you may be on to something here...

Thanks for that info. I didn't think to check the packaging of mine before I discarded it.

As many of you already knew, Rumble was originally a cassette in G1, and his gimmick is that of a young street tough. When he destroys his enemies, he uses earthquake as his main weapons. Now that I'm glad to hear that Rumble is going to be in the Prime line, I'm almost certain that he won't be a cassette, since that he will be a Revealer/Deluxe, but a vehicle instead. If Rumble is a vehicle in the Prime series, will he be a car, truck, jeep, etc.? Will this version of Rumble will be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character? Will he retain his street tough gimmick, just like he did in G1? And will he use his earthquake power again in the Prime series, or will he use a completely different weapon?

Oh, you're back.

psj333 wrote:As many of you already knew, Rumble was originally a cassette in G1, and his gimmick is that of a young street tough. When he destroys his enemies, he uses earthquake as his main weapons. Now that I'm glad to hear that Rumble is going to be in the Prime line, I'm almost certain that he won't be a cassette, since that he will be a Revealer/Deluxe, but a vehicle instead. If Rumble is a vehicle in the Prime series, will he be a car, truck, jeep, etc.? Will this version of Rumble will be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character? Will he retain his street tough gimmick, just like he did in G1? And will he use his earthquake power again in the Prime series, or will he use a completely different weapon?

Though, Rumble better be purple/blue to match his color scheme from the ancient past. Aligned Rumble and Frenzy current follow FIRRIB. No need to to make it confusing by changing this set up.

Sabrblade, that may be true. But you still didn't answer my question yet. Will Prime Revealers Rumble finally have vehicle mode, and not a cassette as he was back in G1, sine Revealer is a Deluxe? If so, will he be a car, truck, jeep, suv, plane, etc.? Will he be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character together?

psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, that may be true. But you still didn't answer my question yet. Will Prime Revealers Rumble finally have vehicle mode, and not a cassette as he was back in G1, sine Revealer is a Deluxe? If so, will he be a car, truck, jeep, suv, plane, etc.? Will he be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character together?

Oh Primus, NOBODY KNOWS THAT YET! It'd be on the front page if it WAS known, dontya think?

psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, that may be true. But you still didn't answer my question yet. Will Prime Revealers Rumble finally have vehicle mode, and not a cassette as he was back in G1, sine Revealer is a Deluxe? If so, will he be a car, truck, jeep, suv, plane, etc.? Will he be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character together?

Did you not see those pictures I answered with? We don't know. You always ask questions that have no answers.

Sabrblade wrote:

psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, that may be true. But you still didn't answer my question yet. Will Prime Revealers Rumble finally have vehicle mode, and not a cassette as he was back in G1, sine Revealer is a Deluxe? If so, will he be a car, truck, jeep, suv, plane, etc.? Will he be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character together?

Did you not see those pictures I answered with? We don't know. You always ask questions that have no answers.

Actually, he asked a question that you don't know the answer to. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who do know the answer to his question, they just haven't shared the information anywhere you have access to at this point....

metaphorge wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, that may be true. But you still didn't answer my question yet. Will Prime Revealers Rumble finally have vehicle mode, and not a cassette as he was back in G1, sine Revealer is a Deluxe? If so, will he be a car, truck, jeep, suv, plane, etc.? Will he be a toy-only character, or will he be both toy and show character together?

Did you not see those pictures I answered with? We don't know. You always ask questions that have no answers.

Actually, he asked a question that you don't know the answer to. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who do know the answer to his question, they just haven't shared the information anywhere you have access to at this point....

He asked memebers of the general fandom, and the general fandom doesn't know since this is the first ever hearing of there even being a Prime Rumble. All the fandom has to go by is a name with no visuals.

This isn't the first time psj333 has asked these kinds of questions. Look through his posts. They're littered with all kinds of questions that were unanswerable at the time when each was written.

you still haven't answered his question yet though.