Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Emerje » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:22 am

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Not entirely sold on Megatron's face. His eyes are messed up by making the thin bar over them far to thick, the copper is too light, and they didn't paint his bottom jaw. It just feels too off to me.

Everything else about both of them I love and definitely want.

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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:16 am

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As always, Megatron is hideous. There is no saving that design. I know it has its fans (and you are all lunatics! :-P ), but movie Megatron figures will never have a slot in my collections.


Jazz though, he is gorgeous. I only hope it follows in the line of Barricade and the Bumblebee MPM figures, and not Ironhide and Optimus....


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Postby Highbrowseyebrows » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:28 am

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The only reason I'm buying these two is because you can rip jazz in half
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Postby Glarryg » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:28 am

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My God, they actually made Jazz split in two?! On one hand, it's sad that the most memorable thing Movie Jazz did was get brutally maimed and die, but on the other hand I'm looking forward to seeing how they make a ROTF Sideways that splits down the middle.

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Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:00 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:As always, Megatron is hideous. There is no saving that design. I know it has its fans (and you are all lunatics! :-P ), but movie Megatron figures will never have a slot in my collections.


Jazz though, he is gorgeous. I only hope it follows in the line of Barricade and the Bumblebee MPM figures, and not Ironhide and Optimus....


Jazz will be bought, and I will pay full price for him.


Eh, I think Megatron is beautifully designed and awesomely detailed but ok. Am not a lunatic even though I do have had some occasions where I've had a bit of a mental breakdown and people thought I may have been one. Who's gonna tear your Jazz in half then? :O
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:39 am

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Holy balls! Jazz looks pretty incredible, except for the connection from his arm to his crescent cannon. That looos a bit wonky, but that’s probably just the angle we’re seeing it from.

Ironhidensh wrote:As always, Megatron is hideous. There is no saving that design. I know it has its fans (and you are all lunatics! :-P ), but movie Megatron figures will never have a slot in my collections.

On the one hand, I’m totally with you on this, Densh. Movie 1 Megs always looked like a metal tree to me. His sillouhette is very plain, even if it is unique. ROTF Megs had a better sillouhette, but suffered from (a) having a mangled arm and (b) still having a lackluster Cybertronia mode. And DOTM Megs transformed into a POS which is hardly any fun. Honestly the only movie design for Megs I actually like is his TLK body. And when they make an MP figure for that, well...

But on the other hand, credit where credit is due, they certainly pulled off a fantastic likeness of Movie 1 Megs.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:51 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote: And DOTM Megs transformed into a POS which is hardly any fun.


DotM Megs turns into a Mad Max-style truck which I consider pretty darn fun. Makes a nice change from tank (which always made the most sense but by this point just seems very overdone) or jet (and thankfully isn't any kind of gun which was always just moronic).


But on the other hand, credit where credit is due, they certainly pulled off a fantastic likeness of Movie 1 Megs.


That's cool. I've no love for the majority of G1 designs, example being the Seekers (which I have always hated mostly due to their stupid wings in robot mode which should be folded away neatly but instead are hanging out all impractical and could get damaged in battle making their alt-mode useless, I guess it's useful that for some inexplicable reason all the Decepticons could fly like Superman in the cartoon. Logic was always lacking in that show) but the MP figures do a nice job of recreating it all even if I don't care for them myself.

I still keep gazing at these pics. I really love the look of these figures (and previous MPMs) I need to win lottery tonight or something. I can only barely afford Studio Series figures. These things are too much for me. I could save up for each one but would take me forever and then I'd feel guilty for owning something so much more expensive than what I usually have for which serves no real purpose (a real car at least gets you out and about, well not me cos I'm probably never gonna be driving) and I'd be worried about breaking them. I treated myself to a 2nd hand Unique Toys Challenger at christmas as my only physical present and as awesome as it is it worries the heck out of me that it might fall over and break or something. Literally too scared to own expensive things in case they become totally worthless through an accident or something. :/
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby SFBglord » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:55 am

OK Megatron looks glorious! Although I do think they should use a more shiny metallic grey for his paint for the sake of movie accuracy, his colour now looks too dull for me. Man I've been waiting for MPM 2007 Megatron's reveal ever since rumours about it surfaced. Personally, 2007 Megatron is my most favourite live-action Megs. And I am not disappointed! Been planning to get SS 2007 Megatron (if they'll release it) because of budget but I'm having second thoughts. Oh welp time to save up my money!
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Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:56 am

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SFBglord wrote:OK Megatron looks glorious! Although I do think they should use a more shiny metallic grey for his paint for the sake of movie accuracy, his colour now looks too dull for me. Man I've been waiting for MPM 2007 Megatron's reveal ever since rumours about it surfaced. Personally, 2007 Megatron is my most favourite live-action Megs. And I am not disappointed! Been planning to get SS 2007 Megatron (if they'll release it) because of budget but I'm having second thoughts. Oh welp time to save up my money!


Maybe they can downscale this MPM and simplify it where necessary to meet Studio Series requirements?
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby SFBglord » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:58 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
SFBglord wrote:OK Megatron looks glorious! Although I do think they should use a more shiny metallic grey for his paint for the sake of movie accuracy, his colour now looks too dull for me. Man I've been waiting for MPM 2007 Megatron's reveal ever since rumours about it surfaced. Personally, 2007 Megatron is my most favourite live-action Megs. And I am not disappointed! Been planning to get SS 2007 Megatron (if they'll release it) because of budget but I'm having second thoughts. Oh welp time to save up my money!


Maybe they can downscale this MPM and simplify it where necessary to meet Studio Series requirements?


But we'll have to see if the MPM 2007 Megatron figure is as good as it looks. OH GOD PLEASE LET IT BE GOOD!
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:10 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote: Who's gonna tear your Jazz in half then? :O





No one. Jazz deserved better. [-(

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Like I said, I hate movie Megatron, but he has his fans, and I'm happy that they are getting a figure they've always wanted. For me, he is a representation of everything I hate about the bayverse, and I won't ever be able to get past that. Kudos to those of you who like this though!


Now bring on MPM Ratchet! And Brawl! And Bonecrusher! And......
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:19 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:#jazzlivesmatter


I smirked at that. But not sure if I should have. :P


Like I said, I hate movie Megatron, but he has his fans, and I'm happy that they are getting a figure they've always wanted. For me, he is a representation of everything I hate about the bayverse, and I won't ever be able to get past that. Kudos to those of you who like this though!

It's ironic cos I often use G1 Ironhide as an example of the overly-simplistic blocky designs I hate about the G1 cartoon even when I was an 80s kid (though somehow he's still better than his original toy cos that thing was beyond saving, no matter what silly lil add-ons later releases tried to give him a head. G1 Jazz bugged me a lot cos I really liked his toy at the time and the details on it but I hated his cartoon design being so simplified they even left off the door wings that Prowl and his 'clones' kept) :P

Now bring on MPM Ratchet! And Brawl! And Bonecrusher! And......


Oh Ratchet should be cool. He's one of my fave designs (enjoyed painting up my Studio figure to look more accurate). I dunno about Brawl and Bonecrusher. They're cool but apparently I haven't liked them enough to even buy their Studio Series figures yet (ok Bonecrusher's only been available very spottily for the past month or so but Brawl's been out almost a year and I've yet to see him reduced in price enough to make me want it despite owning most of the SS figures).


What are the issues on MPM Ironhide by the way? I've heard his torso section is fiddly and doesn't lock very well (previous voyager figures had torso issues too, the Studio one is the first one out of many I've had where it all secures very nicely). Is it things that can be fixed?
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:29 am

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Meh. Megatron looks bad and jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed. The ripping in half gimmick is cool but I keep looking at the mpm's and just thinking "what's the point?" Studio Series is doing everything the masterpiece line is but cheaper and smaller. To each their own I guess but I personally don't see the reason to collect both lines.
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Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:32 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:Meh. Megatron looks bad and jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed. The ripping in half gimmick is cool but I keep looking at the mpm's and just thinking "what's the point?" Studio Series is doing everything the masterpiece line is but cheaper and smaller. To each their own I guess but I personally don't see the reason to collect both lines.



Uh. Might need to get your eyes checked. That Jazz is nothing like the Studio Series figure (which I like too but is vastly more simplified and inaccurate compared to this one).
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:35 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:Meh. Megatron looks bad and jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed. The ripping in half gimmick is cool but I keep looking at the mpm's and just thinking "what's the point?" Studio Series is doing everything the masterpiece line is but cheaper and smaller. To each their own I guess but I personally don't see the reason to collect both lines.



Uh. Might need to get your eyes checked. That Jazz is nothing like the Studio Series figure (which I like too but is vastly more simplified and inaccurate compared to this one).

I actually just had eye surgery two days ago but I can see just fine and they're basically the same thing. I get it, you're a hardcore movie fan boy but not everyone is. I'm just sharing my opinion about what I see, the same exact way you do for generations figures.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:42 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:I actually just had eye surgery two days ago but I can see just fine and they're basically the same thing. I get it, you're a hardcore movie fan boy but not everyone is. I'm just sharing my opinion about what I see, the same exact way you do for generations figures.



Look closer then! You're saying it's the Studio figure just bigger. It's not, it's extremely different in engineering and transformation. For one thing, it has an accurate 'backpack' with the spoiler ending up behind his head, on the Studio figure he simply has the whole roof of the car draping down his back with the spoiler ending up tucked up behind his butt. The arms are totally different with the headlights ending up on the cuffs where they should be, whereas the SS fig has them on the shoulders (meaning the SS has the arms totally the wrong way round yet somehow the wheels end up in correct place on both figures), The SS has stubby feet and the shin pads for some reason tilt with the feet rather than being attached to the lower legs, on the MPM there you can see he has extremely accurate feet with all the lil extra pointy bits. And the MPM has the collar pieces standing up either side of the front of the head, whereas on SS they're flat, sculpted parts of the top. The round headlights end up upside down on the SS figure whereas on the MPM they are correct way up. It's a completely new figure nothing to do with the SS figure and any similarity just comes from both being based on the same character design.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:50 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I actually just had eye surgery two days ago but I can see just fine and they're basically the same thing. I get it, you're a hardcore movie fan boy but not everyone is. I'm just sharing my opinion about what I see, the same exact way you do for generations figures.



Look closer then! You're saying it's the Studio figure just bigger. It's not, it's extremely different in engineering and transformation. For one thing, it has an accurate 'backpack' with the spoiler ending up behind his head, on the Studio figure he simply has the whole roof of the car draping down his back with the spoiler ending up tucked up behind his butt. The arms are totally different with the headlights ending up on the cuffs where they should be, whereas the SS fig has them on the shoulders (meaning the SS has the arms totally the wrong way round yet somehow the wheels end up in correct place on both figures), The SS has stubby feet and the shin pads for some reason tilt with the feet rather than being attached to the lower legs, on the MPM there you can see he has extremely accurate feet with all the lil extra pointy bits. And the MPM has the collar pieces standing up either side of the front of the head, whereas on SS they're flat, sculpted parts of the top. The round headlights end up upside down on the SS figure whereas on the MPM they are correct way up. It's a completely new figure nothing to do with the SS figure and any similarity just comes from both being based on the same character design.

Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.
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Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:52 am

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What are the issues on MPM Ironhide by the way? I've heard his torso section is fiddly and doesn't lock very well (previous voyager figures had torso issues too, the Studio one is the first one out of many I've had where it all secures very nicely). Is it things that can be fixed?



Its all a tabbing issue. In robot mode, his door panels won't tab into is wrists and just hang loose and floppy, and his shoulder/arm tabbing design is a huge mess.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:54 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.



I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:58 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.



I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

It's clearly hyperbole but okay, I'm a jerk for expressing discontent for a figure. Pot meet kettle.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:01 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.



I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

It's clearly hyperbole but okay, I'm a jerk for expressing discontent for a figure. Pot meet kettle.


Jeez. I tried to stay calm. I gave you a list of reasons why your statement was wildly inaccurate which you basically ignore and instead insult me. 'Nice' to meet you, Mr President.
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Dislikes: Bumblebee movie (lousy rehashed dumb crud), TFA, G1 cartoon, IDW G1, BW/BM, MP. The entire concept of Autobot Megatron
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:12 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.



I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

It's clearly hyperbole but okay, I'm a jerk for expressing discontent for a figure. Pot meet kettle.


Jeez. I tried to stay calm. I gave you a list of reasons why your statement was wildly inaccurate which you basically ignore and instead insult me. 'Nice' to meet you, Mr President.

If you think fan boy is an insult then that's your problem. I refer to myself a a fanboy all the time. You're the one who straight up called me a jerk and said I needed my eyes checked. And I never asked for a list of differences, you did that on your own. I was just expressing my opinion THE SAME WAY YOU DO IN GENERATIONS THREADS. So I'm done with this.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby GeekyGamer Gal » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:21 am

Okay :oops: , back to the figures...

I like the Jazz-man, but with a new house and fitting my husband's library onto bookshelves I don't think I'll have the room or money for him. In the pictures though, I have to wonder about tabbing issues, which thankfully I've avoided on OP and Ironhide. Namely on the passenger side door there is a slight gap there, but with the legendary miss-transformations for any and all the pictures/pre-releases it could be attributed to that. His arm where his shield-gun (gun-shield?) is attached does have a little wonkiness to its appearance.

Megsy, is well Megsy, and I'm not a fan of the movie designs aside from TLK. I love Hugo Weaving's performance as Megs, and the horrible lines that are fun to quote, but I just don't like the Decepticon designs from the first four movies. Either way on the figure, I'm also having issues with the front of the jet's prongs(?). Once again the miss-transformations I believe strike again as I feel like if it were to be flipped over all we would see is a jumbled mess of his claw(gripper? hemostat?)fingers.
You know, as a kid I never made the connection between the G1 Sideswipe toy my brother passed down to me and the characters in the Beast Wars show on TV, until Michael Bay had Sideswipe as a Corvette.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:41 am

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Hallelujah! This is awesome! Megatron looks fantastic and Jazz just oozes perfection. I'd buy them both but my budget won't let me :-( . The fact that Jazz can RIP in half is just amazing, and it doesn't look like it would make for a poor connection either. Megatron has a little backpack but I don't care! These two have to be the definitive versions if their characters respectively.
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Re: Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

Postby LinaNui » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:52 am

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I am not really into Masterpiece figures, but after seeing this Megatron I think I will be getting him along with MPM-04 Prime. I hope this means we will be getting a studio series figure of 07 Megatron later this year or the next.

The Jazz looks really good and I love that he splits in half, but I am more than pleased with my studio series Jazz.
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