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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:21 pm

Bumblevivisector wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.
Great idea, from a collector's viewpoint.

Well, yeah, I imagined it being like a collector-oriented store exclusive, since I figure it'd be adult collectors who'd want either of those Ratbat toys more than the kids would.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:09 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.
Great idea, from a collector's viewpoint.
Well, yeah, I imagined it being like a collector-oriented store exclusive, since I figure it'd be adult collectors who'd want either of those Ratbat toys more than the kids would.

Granted, they're anything but mutually exclusive, so I guess I should've said "paying collector's perspective" to contrast what an AWESOME idea small-package cassette releases would be to adult shoplifters.

Are you assuming they'd have to be an online exclusive? Despite the price tag, MP Soundwave is still technically an impulse buy for some fans casual enough to spot him in store without prior knowledge of him, but still vulnerable to being run over by $130.00 nostalgia-trains. If it were just known to us collectors who frequent news-sites, I doubt MP Soundwave would get quite enough sales to make Hasbro a profit, in which case the same logic applies to any cassettes Hasbro releases: they need to get to the shelves, in theft-resistant boxes.

If someone has better math on that, please correct me.

by **Bowspearer** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:22 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
VioMeTriX wrote:is it me or do the feet on soundblaster look like keds or cheap tennis shoes to you all?

oh and bring on rat bat

Yes, they do. Ugh.

To be fair though, they needed to do that for the sake of accuracy in both tape and Robot modes as the feet form a completely different part of the tape deck now.

by **RAcast** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:24 pm

kw-primus-112 wrote:Ok they both look good, I had to preorder both just to add them to my mp collection, but I'm tired of seeing the same old remakes different colors, I have six different optimus's, now they have soundblaster coming out duh black Soundwave, why not autobot blaster, instead of g2 sideswipe why not rachet or ironhide, or better yet a mp devastater, or more dinobots, got both grimlocks, maybe some of the little guys like huffer or cosmos , seaspray, powerglide , or even a jazz mp

Simple. Because if you want new molds, new LICENSED molds, Takara needs to have money to buy said licenses and make said molds (and remolds). Need I go on?

by **Bowspearer** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:57 am

RAcast wrote:
kw-primus-112 wrote:Ok they both look good, I had to preorder both just to add them to my mp collection, but I'm tired of seeing the same old remakes different colors, I have six different optimus's, now they have soundblaster coming out duh black Soundwave, why not autobot blaster, instead of g2 sideswipe why not rachet or ironhide, or better yet a mp devastater, or more dinobots, got both grimlocks, maybe some of the little guys like huffer or cosmos , seaspray, powerglide , or even a jazz mp

Simple. Because if you want new molds, new LICENSED molds, Takara needs to have money to buy said licenses and make said molds (and remolds). Need I go on?

I'm have a day to think about things and I can live with it. Technically we can't complain too much- how many of us were half-jokingly looking at Soundwave as an accessory for Laserbeak.

Also let's not forget that Hasbro and Takara were worse with FOC when we wound up getting Buzz Saw with Soundblaster AND he was shortpacked. At least they're giving us a new cassette mould this time around.

by **FortMacs** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:33 am

ill get soundblaster only if Hasbro releases it.

really want g2 SS but not sure iff ill get it yet or not.

facebook · by **Deruji** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:43 am

My guess, we'll at least see the release of the next four MP cassettes after Soundblaster. Maybe afterwards Hasbro may decide to release Soundblaster in a similar way as Soundwave, packaged together with five new cassettes.

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:03 am

Bumblevivisector wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.
Great idea, from a collector's viewpoint.

But it occurs to me that no matter how much we want just the cassettes without paying big bucks for another MP Soundwave repaint, if they're packaged with anything that doesn't require enormous, hard-to-open-inconspicuously Masterpiece packaging, they will be shoplifted worse than any TF in history. Toys'R'Us policy is that items costing $100 or more require spider-wrap security devices to go out on the shelves, though the sheer number of high-price TFs lately has bent the rules just a tad; at my local TRU, Platinum Grimlock vs. Bruticus consistently has them, along with Acid Storm despite his lower cost, while Metroplex doesn't get them because he's usually kept behind a counter as they don't want to devote that much shelf space to anything selling out so regularly, and there aren't many little bits one would see any point in swiping from his box anyway, right? But spider-wraps are a necessary deterrent wherever MP cassettes are concerned, and they only fit on big boxes.

Actually, you know what extras would get fans to jump at an MP Soundwave repaint? A dozen extra fingertips, half of them color-matched to MP2! Complain to Hasbro's customer service about your MP Soundwave being dis-indexed and maybe it'll happen! Of course then TRU'd REALLY need to spider-wrap each box...

That's TRU's policy? Mine must've missed the memo... Not that you COULD shoplift that Masterpiece Soundwave, but I definitely didn't have any extra anti-theft devices attached to it.

That Ratbat thing sounds helllllla-awesome though.

by **VioMeTriX** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:36 pm

Takara or hasbro will find a way to capitalize on this... they know people want this figure bad, but not soundblaster... trust me on the fact that they need to do it to get every penny that mold can. (but i have soundblaster on preorder just in case).

by **VioMeTriX** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:37 pm

Takara or hasbro will find a way to capitalize on this... they know people want this figure bad, but not soundblaster... trust me on the fact that they need to do it to get every penny that mold can. (but i have soundblaster on preorder just in case).

by **VioMeTriX** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:37 pm

Takara or hasbro will find a way to capitalize on this... they know people want this figure bad, but not soundblaster... trust me on the fact that they need to do it to get every penny that mold can. (but i have soundblaster on preorder just in case).

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:11 pm

More photos of Soundblaster & Ratbat:
http://e-hobby.co.jp/shopdetail/002013000030/

From what I can see transformation looks rather similar to the G1 cassette, but with weapons.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:58 pm

Cyberpath wrote:More photos of Soundblaster & Ratbat:
http://e-hobby.co.jp/shopdetail/002013000030/

From what I can see transformation looks rather similar to the G1 cassette, but with weapons.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/official-takara-tomy-images-of-tg30-waspinator-tg31-rhinox-mp12g-lambor-g2-version-and-mp13b-soundblaster-with-ratbat/28329/

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:54 pm

http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-3400.html

According to Autobase Aichi, the latest issue of Hyper Hobby magazine reveals that Masterpiece MP-13B Soundblaster's chest window panel will be able to switch between giving him either a toy-accurate red chest window or a cartoon-accurate purple chest window.

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:39 am

Nice to have the option I suppose, but I'll be sticking with purple for sure.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:12 am

Thanks to our friends at Autobase Aichi we have some new details on Takara Tomy's upcoming MP-13B Soundblaster with Ratbat from the pages of Hyper Hobby Magazine. So far all the images we've seen of the figure feature the animation accurate purple chest window, but apparently it will be detachable and there will also a toy accurate red version. A nice little touch allowing fans to choose between the two for their displays. MP-13B Soundblaster with Ratbat is set to release in March of next year.

facebook · by **Deruji** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:28 am

El Duque wrote:Thanks to our friends at Autobase Aichi we have some new details on Takara Tomy's upcoming MP-14 Soundblaster with Ratbat from the pages of Hyper Hobby Magazine. So far all the images we've seen of the figure feature the animation accurate purple chest window, but apparently it will be detachable and there will also a toy accurate red version. A nice little touch allowing fans to choose between the two for their displays. MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat is set to release in March of next year.

I think you mean MP-13B, not 14B^^

News Credits: 11 · by **joevill** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:16 pm

That ratbat sure is sexy.....

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:56 pm

The number of black repaints we're getting in the Masterpiece line is epic.

-Black Rodimus
-Black MP-10
-Black/G2 Sideswipe
-Soundblaster

by **VioMeTriX** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:58 pm

i am waiting for my soundblaster and g2 sideswipe to be teamates to my mp-10b black optmist prime...

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:15 pm

megatronus wrote:The number of black repaints we're getting in the Masterpiece line is epic.

-Black Rodimus
-Black MP-10
-Black/G2 Sideswipe
-Soundblaster

MP-1B Convoy Black Version (A.K.A. Daniel Witwicky)
MP-4S Convoy Sleep Mode

News Credits: 5 · by **Convoy** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:25 pm

WOW, Takara. Nice curve ball. I did not see the toy accurate red chest/door being paired with the show accurate purple in the same package coming. Sold!

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:The number of black repaints we're getting in the Masterpiece line is epic.

-Black Rodimus
-Black MP-10
-Black/G2 Sideswipe
-Soundblaster
MP-1B Convoy Black Version (A.K.A. Daniel Witwicky)
MP-4S Convoy Sleep Mode

I tend to not bring pre-MP08 figures into consideration

by **Metrosuplex** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:10 pm

Am I the only one who doesn't care? It's pretty horrible how Takara is wasting effort on releasing a black version of SW... when they could potentially be using those hours/budget to do a (I don't know) Reflector???? That'd be a nice MP...

So when they say "for those who want to display him as toy accurate versus those who want to display him as cartoon accurate"... is there anyone who actually gives a f*ck about "toy accurate"?!? :shock:

Seriously... is there, like, 3 guys out there that prefer "toy accurate"? The entire point of the MP line is for CARTOON ACCURATE. So the whole "toy accurate" thing sounds like a contrived explanation for reselling the same SW... but in chocolate. :HEADHURTS:

Feel free to discuss amongst yourselves! >:oP

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:37 pm

Metrosuplex wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't care? It's pretty horrible how Takara is wasting effort on releasing a black version of SW... when they could potentially be using those hours/budget to do a (I don't know) Reflector???? That'd be a nice MP...

So when they say "for those who want to display him as toy accurate versus those who want to display him as cartoon accurate"... is there anyone who actually gives a f*ck about "toy accurate"?!?

Seriously... is there, like, 3 guys out there that prefer "toy accurate"? The entire point of the MP line is for CARTOON ACCURATE. So the whole "toy accurate" thing sounds like a contrived explanation for reselling the same SW... but in chocolate.

Feel free to discuss amongst yourselves!

So... what the heck is wrong with you?

I'm asking seriously. If you really don't care, you shouldn't write a post like this. That you did write a post like this indicates that you care a lot. But in the wrong way.

A black Soundwave isn't just about a Soundblaster figure - a legitimate enterprise in its own right for those who DO care about the Japanese Headmasters franchise. Especially since it takes very little effort to recolor an existing figure, and offer such a minor, toy accurate accessory.

Rather, it's about selling a figure that will enable Takara and Hasbro to design and produce additional MP figures. That's essentially what every single MP redeco is about. Be it Red Alert, Tigertrack, MP-10B - you name it. So why don't you just simmer down.

If you truly don't care, just back off.