procyon wrote:Could someone please identify the larger bright yellow "bee" in the comparison pics that is neither the MP or the G1? Is it third-party? Thanks.
Would Paramount's hold in the movie in the U.S. extend to Japanese markets as well, though? To my understanding (though it could be wrong), ownership rights of American material mightn't affect those in foreign markets that already have their own versions of the material. Paramount might be keeping the American version of the movie out of the American market, but what's to stop Toei from putting out a new domestic (for Japan) DVD release of the Japanese audio version of the movie that neither Hasbro nor Paramount ought to have any ownership of? If Toei wanted to, that is. Would Paramount step in and object to a foreign release that would otherwise ignore the English-language markets that Paramount's been trying to keep that movie out of?Seibertron wrote:It seems like imagery from the Animated film is rarely used in the past few years, specifically since Paramount obtained rights to it. In the US, that's because Paramount owns the rights to it currently so they could block it from being released because they apparently felt that it would confuse the marketplace with the live action movies (doesn't make any sense to me). I think the Australian Madman Blu-Ray release was the last time that it was available so I wonder if it has now been somehow restricted worldwide. My speculation could be running wild here ... just something I've noticed.
Maybe someone goofed up and based it on the wrong visual reference. They might have used that The Headmasters screengrab of Daniel in the transformed Exo-Suit that we see in the instructions and mistook it for Spike. Who knows. *shrug*Seibertron wrote:I changed the gallery to Spike but I still stand by my opinion of it. The sideburns and facial proportions are that of Daniel and not Spike. Daniel has the smaller triangle sideburns like this toy has whereas Spike has the longer rectangle sideburns that go the length of his ears. Also, the face is round like the boy Daniel instead of a more "chisled"/longer adult face like adult Spike has. They can call it Spike all they want, but that's Daniel's face/head (and the instructions seem to back this up as well with the picture of Daniel in it and a picture of Spike nowhere to be seen).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Autobot032 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
エクセルスートのスパイクも変形。 = "Ekuseru Suuto no Supaiku mo henkei." = "Spike's Excel Suit also transforms."
Ah. Good catch. That, plus the fact that shots of Magnus's packaging state that he's coming with a figure of Daniel. This Exo-Suit is Spike, Daniel comes with Magnus and younger Spike came with MP-10, so all we're missing is a Carly and a Chip Chase.
EDIT: Here we go.
Agent-539 wrote:The should be a 3rd party that should be able to make a line of MP human figures that scale up with the robot modes. Whom to send proposals to.
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Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe someone goofed up and based it on the wrong visual reference. They might have used that The Headmasters screengrab of Daniel in the transformed Exo-Suit that we see in the instructions and mistook it for Spike. Who knows. *shrug*Seibertron wrote:I changed the gallery to Spike but I still stand by my opinion of it. The sideburns and facial proportions are that of Daniel and not Spike. Daniel has the smaller triangle sideburns like this toy has whereas Spike has the longer rectangle sideburns that go the length of his ears. Also, the face is round like the boy Daniel instead of a more "chisled"/longer adult face like adult Spike has. They can call it Spike all they want, but that's Daniel's face/head (and the instructions seem to back this up as well with the picture of Daniel in it and a picture of Spike nowhere to be seen).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Seibertron wrote:I'm switching it back to Daniel. The toy's head is clearly Daniel. The line-art in the Masterpiece book that came out a few months back is Daniel as well. The prototype in that book appears to have the head of Spike oddly. I'll post scans in a few minutes so you guys can see the difference in Spike and Daniel's heads in the exo-suit.
Do they, though? Looks more like they just call the toy "Exo-Suit"/"Excel Suit":JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is changing it Daniel really a good idea though? The fact that the instructions clearly state it's Spike
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Keeping the name Spike, but at the same time acknowledging the sculpt to be based on Daniel would be the way to go IMHO. Keep both sides of the argument ("It's Spike, the instructions say so" vs. "It's Daniel, look at the sculpt!") appeased.
Sabrblade wrote:Do they, though? Looks more like they just call the toy "Exo-Suit"/"Excel Suit":JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is changing it Daniel really a good idea though? The fact that the instructions clearly state it's Spike
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:My bad, it's the box-back:
I wondered something like that, myself. The text エクセルスートのスパイクも変形。 basically translates to saying "Spike's Excel Suit also transforms." But the parsing of it as "Spike's Excel Suit" (as in "Ekuseru Suuto no Supaiku") could be a reference to how the suit worn by Daniel in the movie belonged to his father. So even though it's "Spike's Exo-Suit", it's still Daniel who's wearing it.Seibertron wrote:Also, are we sure that it doesn't say something like "Daniel is wearing Spike's Exo-Suit" or "Spike built the Exo-Suit". Is Daniel's name in the text anywhere on the box?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Seibertron wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:My bad, it's the box-back:
I would consider that a typo since that's the only reference of it as "Spike" whereas we have line-art from Takara showing it as Daniel, the instructions show Daniel, and the shape of the head is Daniel.
Also, are we sure that it doesn't say something like "Daniel is wearing Spike's Exo-Suit" or "Spike built the Exo-Suit". Is Daniel's name in the text anywhere on the box?
Sabrblade wrote:I wondered something like that, myself. The text エクセルスートのスパイクも変形。 basically translates to saying "Spike's Excel Suit also transforms." But the parsing of it as "Spike's Excel Suit" (as in "Ekuseru Suuto no Supaiku") could be a reference to how the suit worn by Daniel in the movie belonged to his father. So even though it's "Spike's Exo-Suit", it's still Daniel who's wearing it.Seibertron wrote:Also, are we sure that it doesn't say something like "Daniel is wearing Spike's Exo-Suit" or "Spike built the Exo-Suit". Is Daniel's name in the text anywhere on the box?
As for whether or not Daniel's name is mentioned anywhere on the box, the entirety of the text on the whole box is a bit small for me to tell (even in the biggest images), but if Daniel's name is mentioned anywhere, it would look like this:
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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