RiddlerJ wrote:So are all five cassettes packaged with this release of Soundwave?
shockblast2 wrote:Well, the Scamper design and Metroplex's look proves that this figure is FOC/WFC/IDW and not geewun. Anyone want to debate this is something other than that? Sabrblade, perhaps?
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
sdn1337 wrote:I'm pretty sure the generations figures are 15 dollars too.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Mindmaster wrote:sdn1337 wrote:I'm pretty sure the generations figures are 15 dollars too.
I agree. The addition of the comic will probably have little to no affect on the price of the Deluxe it comes with.
sdn1337 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:sdn1337 wrote:I'm pretty sure the generations figures are 15 dollars too.
I agree. The addition of the comic will probably have little to no affect on the price of the Deluxe it comes with.
I just checked BBTS, they have the generations figures listed for $16.99.
Not bad at all.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
shockblast2 wrote:Well, the Scamper design and Metroplex's look proves that this figure is FOC/WFC/IDW and not geewun. Anyone want to debate this is something other than that? Sabrblade, perhaps?
Wolfman Jake wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Well, the Scamper design and Metroplex's look proves that this figure is FOC/WFC/IDW and not geewun. Anyone want to debate this is something other than that? Sabrblade, perhaps?
IDW has an ongoing series of comics that pick up the G1 Transformers fiction where it was last left off. The IDW designs we're getting in the Generations "Thrilling Thirty" assortment are those featured as updated G1 characters in IDW's current comics. IDW has also assimilated many cybertronian forms and models for G1 characters taken directly from the War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron games. Recall that War for Cybertron especially was heavily influenced by G1, though ostensibly meant by Hasbro as a starting point for the modern/alligned continunity for the brand. Feel free to assume that your WfC/FoC Bumblebee, Starscream, Soundwave, Shockwave, etc. figures are also their G1 selves. For the past few years, Hasbro has purposely been putting out toys with nebulous fictional affinity to any particular continuity so you can organize your collections as you see fit. All the IDW stuff coming out in figure form this year can safely be considered G1 or G1-compatible at this point. In short, enjoy your two foot tall G1 Metroplex
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Mindmaster wrote:Watch out; he's going to backlash how the Classics line, other affiliated line, and Generation One is dead, and that these are in fact Aligned designs.
That was known from the very beginning that we first heard about the "Thrilling 30" toys. It's the Spotlight issues from IDW, which is why all of the Thrilling 30 Deluxe toys look like the IDW Spotlight character bodies.gavinfuzzy wrote:Oh look, the Generation deluxes comes with an added comic book. I wonder if it would be the full-length unabridged issue, or like a 4-page excerpt.
It's probably an excuse to bump the price up to $24.99 per deluxe... Cause you know, Comic book.
Because Metroplex is an ordinary mass release figure (just a big one), while Soundwave is a freakin' Masterpiece!Megatron Wolf wrote:why the hell is soundwave an exclusive but metroplex isnt? What the hell kind of crap is that?
TRU is the ONLY store chain that would take this kind of toy. Hasbro already tried Walmart with Starscream and Skywarp, and both of those sold terribly through Walmart. Thus Walmart won't take anymore MPs, nor will any other store besides TRU take them.Megatron Wolf wrote: And why TRU, hasnt hasbro learned no one likes TRU anymore? Great so now if i want soundwave im going to have to fight scalpers & pay top dollar cause TRU has to charge ridiculous prices. Just more proof that hasbro doesnt have a clue.
Dude, he's covered in IDW G1 characters, and his bio pins him down as IDW's character, not FOC's character.shockblast2 wrote:Well, the Scamper design and Metroplex's look proves that this figure is FOC/WFC/IDW and not geewun. Anyone want to debate this is something other than that? Sabrblade, perhaps?
*brofist*Wolfman Jake wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Watch out; he's going to backlash how the Classics line, other affiliated line, and Generation One is dead, and that these are in fact Aligned designs.
Well, then he'd just be denying reality, and at that point, I can' do anything more to educate and enlighten. As long as he keeps buying Transformers to feed Hasbro's bottom line and keep our hobby afloat, I'm cool with thinking the moons of Cybertron are made of cheese
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wolfman Jake wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Well, the Scamper design and Metroplex's look proves that this figure is FOC/WFC/IDW and not geewun. Anyone want to debate this is something other than that? Sabrblade, perhaps?
IDW has an ongoing series of comics that pick up the G1 Transformers fiction where it was last left off. The IDW designs we're getting in the Generations "Thrilling Thirty" assortment are those featured as updated G1 characters in IDW's current comics. IDW has also assimilated many cybertronian forms and models for G1 characters taken directly from the War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron games. Recall that War for Cybertron especially was heavily influenced by G1, though ostensibly meant by Hasbro as a starting point for the modern/aligned continunity for the brand. Hence, we are free to assume that our WfC/FoC Bumblebee, Starscream, Soundwave, Shockwave, etc. figures are also their G1 selves. For the past few years, Hasbro has purposely been putting out toys with nebulous fictional affinity to any particular continuity so you can organize your collections as you see fit, so none of this should really be surprising at this point. All the IDW stuff coming out in figure form this year can safely be considered G1 or G1-compatible at this point. In short, enjoy Hasbro's new two foot tall G1 Metroplex
The cartoon is dead, yes. The Marvel comics are dead, yes. The Blackthorne comics are dead, yes. The toyline is dead, yes. The Dreamwave comics are dead, yes (but only since 2004, not 1990).shockblast2 wrote:Uh no. You do understand Geewun ended in 1990, right? Its over. 23 years ago. Move on. The fact that you are using that term to describe a modern day Transformer that is not an MP replica is ridicious. Classic case of geewunitis....
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The cartoon is dead, yes. The Marvel comics are dead, yes. The Blackthorne comics are dead, yes. The toyline is dead, yes. The Dreamwave comics are dead, yes (but only since 2004, not 1990).shockblast2 wrote:Uh no. You do understand Geewun ended in 1990, right? Its over. 23 years ago. Move on. The fact that you are using that term to describe a modern day Transformer that is not an MP replica is ridicious. Classic case of geewunitis....
But IDW's comics that have been going on since 2005 are a new, alternate version of G1 that's still alive and kicking.
There's also Fun Publications' Wings Universe fiction, which is based on the G1 cartoon, is still ongoing.
And the All Spark manga is another alternate take on G1, and it's still going strong.
So, while all the old G1 things from before 2005 are indeed dead, there's still new, different G1 things that are alive and kick to this day.
Then what would you call IDW's comics from before 2010? 2010 was the year the Aligned Continuity began, so what were IDW's comics in the pre-Aligned years?shockblast2 wrote:Classic case of geewunitis here. I have spoke with Sabrblade about his condition before.
He is in the denial stage currently. When he gets FOC/IDW Trailcutter in his hands he will move on the anger stage. Right after he shoehorns it in next to his ROTF Gears.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wolfman Jake wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Watch out; he's going to backlash how the Classics line, other affiliated line, and Generation One is dead, and that these are in fact Aligned designs.
Well, then he'd just be denying reality, and at that point, I can' do anything more to educate and enlighten. As long as he keeps buying Transformers to feed Hasbro's bottom line and keep our hobby afloat, I'm cool with thinking the moons of Cybertron are made of cheese
One more question. What does "G1" mean to you? Answer me this.shockblast2 wrote:Me? Oh no. Look in the mirror. You say above that IDW picks up where geewun left off. That is a bs statement if I have ever heard one. You do know Prowl was killed in geewun, right? And the dinobots were created by the Autobots on earth after seeing dino bones in a cave, right? And the insecticons became so on earth, right. And the fact that Ironhide, Ratchet, and over half of the geewun bots that are in IDW comics died in geewun, right?
And I am in denial? Meh.........
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Then what would you call IDW's comics from before 2010? 2010 was the year the Aligned Continuity began, so what were IDW's comics in the pre-Aligned years?shockblast2 wrote:Classic case of geewunitis here. I have spoke with Sabrblade about his condition before.
He is in the denial stage currently. When he gets FOC/IDW Trailcutter in his hands he will move on the anger stage. Right after he shoehorns it in next to his ROTF Gears.
And what would you call Wings Universe or All Spark?
Enlighten me.
Sabrblade wrote:One more question. What does "G1" mean to you? Answer me this.shockblast2 wrote:Me? Oh no. Look in the mirror. You say above that IDW picks up where geewun left off. That is a bs statement if I have ever heard one. You do know Prowl was killed in geewun, right? And the dinobots were created by the Autobots on earth after seeing dino bones in a cave, right? And the insecticons became so on earth, right. And the fact that Ironhide, Ratchet, and over half of the geewun bots that are in IDW comics died in geewun, right?
And I am in denial? Meh.........
Sabrblade wrote:Then what would you call IDW's comics from before 2010? 2010 was the year the Aligned Continuity began, so what were IDW's comics in the pre-Aligned years?shockblast2 wrote:Classic case of geewunitis here. I have spoke with Sabrblade about his condition before.
He is in the denial stage currently. When he gets FOC/IDW Trailcutter in his hands he will move on the anger stage. Right after he shoehorns it in next to his ROTF Gears.
And what would you call Wings Universe or All Spark?
Enlighten me.
Then how can you say that they're not G1 if you know nothing about them?shockblast2 wrote:Can't say because I don't know anything about them.
I own the following:shockblast2 wrote:Do you have any of these? And if so, why do you think they fit in your geewun classics collection?
Then, what about Dreamwave's comics from 2002-2004? Or, do you not know about those either?shockblast2 wrote:Any pre 1991 toys, books, games, tv shows, movies, etc that bear the Transformers logo.
On the contrary. I grew up on the Beast Era and it still remains my favorite era of Transformers to this day.shockblast2 wrote:I mean, are you a geewun racist or something?
Oh, there most certainly are some aspects of G2 in the IDW comics. But they're far and few compared to their G1 elements. Not to mention that G2 as a franchise is a subset with the greater G1 continuity family, thus anything G2 is automatically also G1, just a specific portion of it. Same with the Beast Era; it too is a subsection of the G1 continuity family, or "Primax", as it is also known as.shockblast2 wrote:What about G2? Why can't IDW be G2 in your eyes? By your measure it could be????
Can you provide a link to any official outlet declaring that all that IDW created before 2010 automatically became one with the Aligned continuity?shockblast2 wrote:Sorry missed one q. Any pre-2010 IDW is assimilated because the title was created after the book started, but made offical by Hasbro, making it canon. Just like they did with geewun when G2 came along.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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