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deep impact is good too, but so is armageddon.....one's the "realistic" look at the situation while the other is the over the top action fest hollywood version...thats all..lol

but i prefer armageddon....bring on the insults or negative reactions. lol

but to get back on topic.......those reviews didnt affect my opinion either way.....i knew i was gonna see this the day they announced they were making a live action movie.

as someone else said, if the movie does suck then it does...we still have the originals or which ever show u prefer, nothing is changed...you just lose 10$ and 2hrs...and considering how many movies i've seen that sucked...i could handle it. lol

Bouncy X wrote:as someone else said, if the movie does suck then it does...we still have the originals or which ever show u prefer, nothing is changed...you just lose 10$ and 2hrs...and considering how many movies i've seen that sucked...i could handle it. lol

See, those bolded lines are so true lol. I've watched alot of movies, some bleah, some wow, and recently I just don't seem to be bothered if a movie sucks or not. Of course I go "yeah!" if the movie was great, but if a movie sucked then I'm like "Oh well, I'm sure I've seen worse"

But yeah, those reviews are positive a bit, but I think when June 28 comes around that's when the realy reviews will go on. Say, anyone want to back up those reviews to compare with later reviews?

It almost seems to me like people are/were expecting Micheal Bay to pull off some sort of epic Oscar destroying Movie that is talked about for years to come. I have no idea how one gets so deluded, but then I'm no head doctor. Far as I( And many of my local Transfan friends) are concerned, this movie is turning out to be exactly what I thought it would be, which is Bleepin awsome! I still think Megs will suck a nut, but like Starscream, I hope to be pleasantly surprised. Anyway, Poop and 15 days to go!

I want to see this movie badly, I'm excited for this movie, but It is everything I expected,.... a sad weak plot, tons of humor, sex appeal, and tons of special exploding mind blowing effects. I wonder if it could have been so much more than that if only Bay stick to the effects only, and away from the designs and plot or at least a huge caring fan at his end having a huge leash on him to do nothing but effects on this movie?
I never expected Bay to do an Oscar, and don't think anyone did.

Would the plot been better? Would we have a smart sexy mech girl with no purpose or with a greater power? Would we have a better robots with no apologies, violence, thoughtful, smart and tragic outcomes? Blood and death? Of course there would be humor..or it could have been a huge mistake or bad comedy.

Oh well, while I wonder what could have been, but the truth is, I know Hollywood can't be that amazing, only wants to be cool and look beautiful. It has no soul but it wants to buy yours, and sell your beauty until your killing yourself into nothing.

I think I'll like this movie, but for it's humor and effects. I think Bumblebee will win me over, and Prime already has done so. (Wish I can say the same for the toys, no, I don't care much for them and won't buy them)

Eh, about what I expected from reviews. It's seems to be shaping to an ID4 type movie with TFs, which is cool for me me, I liked ID4.

I find it funny though, all the naysayers still going on about how its gonna suck. Lets face, TFs was never gonna be Oscar-winning LOTR styled. Everything I'm hearing about the movie thus far reminds of the old G1 show to a T. Mindless action:check, goofball humor:check, thin plotline:check. Everything I expected is right there. Maybe all the naysayers need to go back and watch the old G1(or any other series but BM, for that matter), and really take a look at this again. So far, everything is going in that right direction. And all of that is what made TFs fun for me in the first place.

Kind of ironic though isn't it? Bay stated that he didn't want to make another stupid toy movie did he not? And yet stupid toy popcorn movie is more or less how its being summed up thus far.

Transformers meant a lot to me as a kid, it was never cheezy cause it excited my imagination, especially in the arts (writing, drawing, animation). When I heard Bay was doing the movie my first reaction was a pessimistic 'Oh jeez' because I know full well the style of movies that he makes. I had never wanted to see Tf's done as a typical action schlock-fest, especially in his style, which I find dizzying and just plain excessive for the sake of being excessive.
Some of us wanted this typical action-cheezola for the sake pure cheezola so long as s**t gets blowed up real goooood type of film. Some of us wanted a film that was simply good and fun on the level of the Star Wars OT, Terminator 2, Aliens etc. I don't think its fair for either camps to attack the other for what they like, especially since the mainstream still gets such a kick out of attacking us ALL for being nerd-geek adults who play with toys.
It looks like the former fans will be happier this time around as that remark "best stupid movie of the year" pretty much summed up my misgivings about this film. Its also brought some perspective too. If for some reason it proves more than just eye candy, its good for the franchise. If it drops like a lead balloon, then all the money still invested in this project will force someone to get it right, sooner or later.

Umm a little thing if you start a sentence with "Transfomers was never meant to be..." or "what do you want ...." or "I just want..." that makes you a apologist.

I have yet to see or read anything that will convince me this will actually be a good Transformers movie. Yes everybody so far said and showed this is a 'fun summer block buster movie with lots of explosions and giant f'king robots'. But that was not thing I was hoping for really...
But hey, who am I.

I'm not going to say what labelling people based on how they start a sentence makes you, Phate.

Roll on Botcon and the cinematic premiere of the giant robots that turn into the fast cars.

-Nick

Im yet to read a supremely positive review, mostly the reviews are along the lines of "great summer blockbuster"/"good popcorn flick as long as you dont like plot in your films". Fantastic Four 2 has been getting similar reviews...

Im looking forward to seeing it in 10 days time, and thankfully I am expecting nothing more than a popcorn flick, so I shouldnt be disappointed.

WHEN IS HUGO WEAVING GOING TO DO AN INTERVIEW!!!!????

Kayevcee wrote:I'm not going to say what labelling people based on how they start a sentence makes you, Phate.

Roll on Botcon and the cinematic premiere of the giant robots that turn into the fast cars.

-Nick

Heheh...it makes him someone who doesn't read other people's posts properly

Metal Gear Solid Fan wrote:WHEN IS HUGO WEAVING GOING TO DO AN INTERVIEW!!!!????

Good question!

well it seems megatron has a very small part, especially dialogue wise so i wouldnt be surprised if hugo did no publicity for this. i mean all the trailers and tv spots dont mention any of the voicecast and aside for like 2 or 3 lines from prime, we never even hear them.

its not like all those animated movies featuring a plethora of celebrity voices....so yeah, wont be surprised if he's never interviewed in any form.

would enjoy being wrong of course but..lol

Bouncy X wrote:well it seems megatron has a very small part, especially dialogue wise so i wouldnt be surprised if hugo did no publicity for this. i mean all the trailers and tv spots dont mention any of the voicecast and aside for like 2 or 3 lines from prime, we never even hear them.

its not like all those animated movies featuring a plethora of celebrity voices....so yeah, wont be surprised if he's never interviewed in any form.

would enjoy being wrong of course but..lol

Yeah, it's kinda funny, too, because given all the other voice actors are nobodies in comparison. You'ld think that if it was so special to get him over Welker, they'd at least parade him around & say, "Hey, look who we got to be Megatron....he was perfect for the part, very talented & such & we're so glad to have him as part of the cast."

Yet all there has really been about him was a vauge mentoning on the sector seven website.

Every time I read the "how can you possibly expect a competent plot or genuinely witty and funny dialogue? It was based on a cartoon!" argument I get flashbacks to the whole Lost In Space movie debacle. Because, apparently, when making a film update based on an old children's or family show people watch for nostalgia, a budget of $150 million more isn't enough to buy a better script unless you're doing a tongue-in-cheek parody like the Brady Bunch.

Bouncy X wrote:you know, some people really dont care about plot or story, they just wanna be entertained. and it gets old seeing everyone imply people like that have no taste or nobody would wanna watch a movie like that. yes, i'm one of those....i just wanna be entertained.

and to use 2 examples shown here, i personally loved ID4 and Armageddon. I didnt go see those movies expecting awesome acting and brain inducing stories, i went to see cities get destroyed and cool effects/action and they delivered that for me. And i watch ID4 every now and then because i do think its good. Armageddon i dont own simply because i dont want a bare bones disc and the Criterion is next to impossible to find and usually 50$ or more when i do see it.

but yeah, if Transformers is just that, i'll be one person who'll be more than satisfied. i'm not trying to imply or put down those of you who have higher hopes and expections, everyone has their own ideas and likes but yeah.....people should stop acting like everyone thinks the same because they dont. lol

maybe my mind is stuck at 14yrs old or something but yeah...i'm sure if many people saw my DVD collection they'd be shocked one person would own all these so called "empty" and "bad movies lol

I think people do care about having a plot or story in a movie instead of paying $7.50 for big Hollywood Explosion porn. You can have a big block buster movie filled with CG and Big Hollywood Explosion and still have a plot or a story. Movies like Star Wars Trilogy (Empire the Strikes Back), Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn and Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home are the perfect example of having eye popping special effects and have brilliant plot or story to carry the film. From what I've read about the Transformer Live Action movie is nothing more but Big Hollywood Explosion Porn fest with no character developement, paper thin plot with big explosions. This is your typical Michael Bay film...

ZoneDaiatlas wrote: This is your typical Michael Bay film...

On the bright side, at least this time he isn't trying to "honor the vets" by making a film whose sole strength is in the glamourizing of the massive explosions that killed them and/or their fellow servicemen.

Im surprised that Hugo Weaving's involvement hasn't got mention in the Australian press.Even the artie farty taxpayer funded flicks he has been in get some press. Rachel Taylor's had more attention than Hugo about the movie in the Aussie media. You don't think that he is ashamed or anything?

yes some do care about all that stuff...but at the same time some dont, all i'm saying. neither side is wrong or stupid, its just different tastes and opinions.

as for the glamorizing pearl harbor....last i checked there's been hundreds of movies made about different wars through our history, i dont see what's the difference between bay doing it and someone else. inevitably some of those war movies will be good and looked well upon and others wont. but to accuse bay of doing something MANY have done before him and many will do after, is kinda pointless. hollywood loves making "true story" movies and they'll never stop. and in the end it makes no difference how acurate or "respectful" the movies are because they're just movies...dont like it, dont watch, its that simple.

that also applies to transformers, if you think it'll suck then shut up and dont go see it. your point is made but constantly arguing over this especially when its less than 2 weeks from release, utterly pointless. granted i'm sorta being a hypocrite by writing all this but yeah..lol

Bouncy X wrote:yes some do care about all that stuff...but at the same time some dont, all i'm saying. neither side is wrong or stupid, its just different tastes and opinions.

as for the glamorizing pearl harbor....last i checked there's been hundreds of movies made about different wars through our history, i dont see what's the difference between bay doing it and someone else. inevitably some of those war movies will be good and looked well upon and others wont. but to accuse bay of doing something MANY have done before him and many will do after, is kinda pointless. hollywood loves making "true story" movies and they'll never stop. and in the end it makes no difference how acurate or "respectful" the movies are because they're just movies...dont like it, dont watch, its that simple.

that also applies to transformers, if you think it'll suck then shut up and dont go see it. your point is made but constantly arguing over this especially when its less than 2 weeks from release, utterly pointless. granted i'm sorta being a hypocrite by writing all this but yeah..lol

I'm not talking about glamourizing war or historical events, I'm talking about glamourizing THE EXPLOSIONS. It was nothing like Band of Brothers or Saving Private Ryan. They made a big deal about honoring veterans, had a bunch of folks who were there that day attend the premiere, and then the film was like "A hamfisted love triangle and... hey! Look how cool all that **** blowing up is! I'll bet being there must've been awesome!"