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triplespy wrote:

MB is taking the lowest common denominator approach ... oiled up hot chick, slow motion and explosions, drown it with comedy and we have a hit

Exactly, are you not offended by this? Are we, as a fanbase, not more intelligent than this? Do we not deserve better than bad comedy, cliched stereotypes, and the majority of the decepticons in this film just being recolored protoforms or having one second of screen time?

This movie is going to make "Masters of the Universe" look like Hamlet in comparison.

Completely disagree. I'm glad that MB is going this route. He's showing character and personality in the the characters. Something that was lacking in the first movie. Even though wheelie is a bit vulgar, it shows that not every bot has to have this "proper, i am perfect" attitude. Personally, i don't think its fair to be "offended" or "turned off" considering we haven't seen the full movie. My guess is Bay didn't just give him this personality just for shits and giggles. Considering Wheelies Background, i think this personality fits his character. This movie is already showing improvment of the first.

haha Wheelie reminds me of Joe Pesci lol

Wheelie doesn't rhyme!? That's such a crime.

triplespy wrote:

MB is taking the lowest common denominator approach ... oiled up hot chick, slow motion and explosions, drown it with comedy and we have a hit

Exactly, are you not offended by this? Are we, as a fanbase, not more intelligent than this? Do we not deserve better than bad comedy, cliched stereotypes, and the majority of the decepticons in this film just being recolored protoforms or having one second of screen time?

This movie is going to make "Masters of the Universe" look like Hamlet in comparison.

Wow.. Wow... Did Bay assault your childhood or something?

It's a movie based on Alien robots who transform into vehicles,toasters and alien tanks . How serious do you want it to be?

I liked that. Wheelie sounds and, now I come to think about it, looks like Steve Buscemi.

I like more Robot Speech. Even if the characters just shout their names before getting blown up its better than bloody subtitle with the wrong name and a dodgey alien grunting.

"I Am Megatron!"

"I am Devastator"

"I am Available-at-targeticon!"

More Robot swearing please.

I want a DVD special feature of Wheelie doing Blue Stand-up

He looks like Johnny 5 with a gremlin mouth and sounds like Joe Peshi. Interesting.

I see the comedic effect they're going for, but I just really can't get onboard with the designs of the smaller TFs for the movie continuity.

Starscream6 wrote:WOW! such language for our beloved lil wheelie! wasnt expecting that

I know, I LOLed..

mitchsantona wrote:Not sure about this. I'm seeing too many things I'm not liking. Bumblebee dancing around is enough comic relief. Then there are two mentally challenged brothers who at some point combine into a ridiculous ice cream truck, and now this little potty mouthed gremlin. I'm seriously having doubts about this film.

Sadly it is the new Transformers for the generation of people that enjoy cursing and crass comments. You are in the minority mitchsantona. Sux.

And what is wrong with a good laugh?

After all Optimus did say in the first movie that they learned Earth's languages from the WWW.
There is so much cussing on the net no wonder he portrayed Wheelie like this.

triplespy wrote:

MB is taking the lowest common denominator approach ... oiled up hot chick, slow motion and explosions, drown it with comedy and we have a hit

Exactly, are you not offended by this? Are we, as a fanbase, not more intelligent than this? Do we not deserve better than bad comedy, cliched stereotypes, and the majority of the decepticons in this film just being recolored protoforms or having one second of screen time?

This movie is going to make "Masters of the Universe" look like Hamlet in comparison.

I totally understand where you are coming from. Very credible.

The combination of Spongebob and Rattrap is strangely cool.

I'm sold.

Kinda a step down from "Wheelie say find friends today!"

Even in English he sounds like a jerk.
But, I think he's pretty cool now.

Well after seeing this in english im not any more happy about this movie. The cursing doesnt bother me (hell im from NY we curse after every other word)and the voice works but, just the hole set up here pisses me off. Bay is treating us like unintelligent morons. Yeah hot chicks, explosions, and giant robots sounds cool but without substance its just another summer movie made to sell popcorn. Now i know some of you are going to say "well thats the point". Yeah its the point for bay and the movie studios but Im sure hasbro had higher hopes for these movies just like we did. This is why i was afraid when they announced these movies. They left out all the story just to sell **** and make money. And thats why hasbro lets it go on. It sells toys and merchandise. They really need to get new writers and a new director. Even if they keep bay to direct just dont let him have a say in the development. Hes there to film not wright a script. I also dont care if they keep the look of the bots i just want some god damn substance in the next movie. A story that will suck you in and actually make you want to watch the movie in its entirety over & over again. Not just fast forward to the good parts. So whens the next cartoon coming out?

"No one shuts Edward Elric in a box!"

triplespy wrote:

MB is taking the lowest common denominator approach ... oiled up hot chick, slow motion and explosions, drown it with comedy and we have a hit

Exactly, are you not offended by this? Are we, as a fanbase, not more intelligent than this? Do we not deserve better than bad comedy, cliched stereotypes, and the majority of the decepticons in this film just being recolored protoforms or having one second of screen time?

This movie is going to make "Masters of the Universe" look like Hamlet in comparison.

Not offended, but very disappointed. I didn't care for the cast or the designs, but that wasn't the let down, it was the script. I really wanted to like it.

Megatron Wolf wrote: Even if they keep bay to direct just dont let him have a say in the development. Hes there to film not wright a script. I also dont care if they keep the look of the bots i just want some god damn substance in the next movie. A story that will suck you in and actually make you want to watch the movie in its entirety over & over again. Not just fast forward to the good parts.

I Definitely agree with you there. If the story is compelling and it pulls me in, then I can easily suspend disbelief and enjoy the movie.

Interesting.
Mikaela kicking ass and talking to Wheelie like talking robots are perfectly normal. Both pluses in my book.

Wheelie's characterization is decent. Sure he's a bit foul mouthed, but that's a ton better than G1 Wheelie's rhyming. I'm digging this little scene. Now Mikaela just needs to give her POW to Optimus.

triplespy wrote:

MB is taking the lowest common denominator approach ... oiled up hot chick, slow motion and explosions, drown it with comedy and we have a hit

Exactly, are you not offended by this? Are we, as a fanbase, not more intelligent than this? Do we not deserve better than bad comedy, cliched stereotypes, and the majority of the decepticons in this film just being recolored protoforms or having one second of screen time?

This movie is going to make "Masters of the Universe" look like Hamlet in comparison.

Are you out of your mind? Not even cheesy 70's horror flicks could elevate Masters of the Universe. And are we to also to assume that Jazz in the first movie, or Ironhides "Clint Eastwood" impersonation also riled you to the point of protest.
I'm not going to pay good money to sit on my butt for over 2 hours to watch a bunch of dry, humorless, emotionless crap. If all I wanted was explosions I'd go blow stuff up myself. At least there is some personality here. This is not insulting us one bit. (well, maybe you and 1 or 2 others) but the rest of us want something that isn't like Hal from 2001.

Personally, I love the direction they're taking. Frenzy kicked ass, but I hated reading his subtitles. Wheelie is a huge step forward. And Mikaela isn't just eye candy, she's badass!

Everyone who doesn't like the movie because it's "too goofy" should think about G1. Not the comics, the cartoon. Sure, they weren't cracking jokes all the time, but it was pretty damn cheesy. Most of the characters were exaggerated with colorfully cliche personalities. Even Soundwave, no matter how serious, turned into a Walkman with little cassette tape minions. Once you've taken a look back at G1, reconsider your thoughts on the films.

Whether we agree or disagree on this little guy you can't help but think about him in conjunction with this saying...
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!" That alone makes me totally rethink all of the Wheelie bashing I did when I first found out he was going to be in RotF and when I first read his new bio.

Everyone who is all about the seriousness and the "purity" needs to just step back and remember that this is just a movie, it's 2+ hours of pure escapism and if you are taking it that seriously, you are missing the whole point and have totally forgotten how to be a kid. And if you aren't actually a kid, remember that your whole hobby revolves around kids toys so either there is still a kid poking around that noggin of yours, barely held in check, or there's a grown-up in need of some professional help.

I've just spent 3 days camping with 90 kids. I still can't tell yet whether the experience was enlightening or if I'm going slightly mad.