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Sabrblade wrote:How many points of articulation do each of them have? And what are their said points of articulation?
ScottyP wrote:Didn't have as much time as expected and cell camera is starting to spaz out, but here's some of the requested comparisons.
This one may only interest me, but just wanted to show that while the "small" Bee from this line shares engineering with the upscaled BH Cyberverse Deluxe, they are definitely not the same mold retooled or further upscaled:
Lit of Articulation:
- Cyber Commander Prime - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, ankle tilts
- Cyber Commander Bumblebee - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, elbow rotation, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Megatron - Head rotation, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, knees, ankle tilts
- Grimlock - Head rotation (though very limited due to "collar" like piece around head), shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, knees
- Optimus Prime - Shoulder rotation, elbow bend, elbow rotation, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Bumblebee - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Starscream - Head rotation, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation
dragons wrote:size i did not know, but articulation i could what they have by looking pictures where joints are in robot mode and vehicale mode what articualtion was on these bots
thanks for sharing information well known
Ain't no thing, I'm sure they just didn't realize Sabr had asked about it a couple days ago, which is why it was providedwilliam-james88 wrote:dragons wrote:size i did not know, but articulation i could what they have by looking pictures where joints are in robot mode and vehicale mode what articualtion was on these bots
thanks for sharing information well known
Is this a "diss"? As always, I cant understand whatever you write.
Shockwave7 wrote:As throwback-ish as the Cyber Series looks to be, I thought I'd post this photo.
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
william-james88 wrote:Shockwave7 wrote:As throwback-ish as the Cyber Series looks to be, I thought I'd post this photo.
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
If you are talking prices have you considered inflation and comparison to the increase in other toy lines? I remeber the marvel legends line being 10$ when it started. It doubled in only 10-15 years time. That is a much faster acceleration than the TF price increase.
Actually, f&%k it: Here's an inflation calculator, the increase in toy prices is a myth:
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
TFs havent increased in significant value in 30 years and have gotten bigger. We have only gained in terms of what money can let us buy in terms of TFs.
What you are really asking is: would you be ok going back to paying these prices and having your salary reduced by half? That is the only logical way to approach your line of thinking.
Desslok2201 wrote:Well, first of all, salaries are not back to where they were pre 2008, and I don't know about you, but when those cards were on the racks, I was 14, with a paper route and mowing lawns... And zero overhead. None. No kids..no mortgage..no car payments.. Jesus, I'm tearing up....
william-james88 wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:Well, first of all, salaries are not back to where they were pre 2008, and I don't know about you, but when those cards were on the racks, I was 14, with a paper route and mowing lawns... And zero overhead. None. No kids..no mortgage..no car payments.. Jesus, I'm tearing up....
You have to be fair in your comparisons, guys. If you are comparing your pay when you were a kid buying TFs, you should compare it to someone who is that old today buying tfs. To make it easy, I assumed it as parents buying TFs for their kids then and parents buying it for their kids now. Do you make as much, less or more now than your parents made back then? That is the only fair way to compare when dealing with inflation.
How much was a trio at mcdonalds back in the 80s? How much is it now?
I agree with this. Weird to me that the new Mini-cons are $5 at retail when the legions run $6 (Walmart) or $9 (everywhere else). That $9 price point is where the one-steps probably should fall.RAR wrote:I do personally think it was a mistake for things like 1-Steps to be sold over $10.00 that is an important psychological price limit.
It might be argued the "Toy car" size of a legion being over $5.00 has also passed a psychological price limit too.
Optimizzy wrote:Are these sold out at BBTS? I can't even find the listing.
Shockwave7 wrote:As throwback-ish as the Cyber Series looks to be, I thought I'd post this photo.
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
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