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-Kanrabat- wrote:

Primeultimus wrote:These will replace the TF Hero Mashers and random AOE places on the shelf I am sure.

Let's hope you will be proven right.

Down with Hero Mashers, Dino Riders, and Shampoo Bottles!

Those shampoo bottles will be replaced by the RID shampoo bottles. But yeah, I sure hope these new figures replace the non transforming TF stuff crowding the shelves. I actually think these are more a step in the right direction to get kids interested in TFs.

Madeus Prime wrote:Megatron and Starscream appear to be the only ones that look like they are worth buying. If, and only if, Starscream has knees.

I just saw that Megatron has knees!That actually makes this toy somewhat acceptable and I may pick it up.
If the Starscream mold has them, it's IDW enough that I want it as Thundercracker. But as far as I can tell neither of the optimus molds have knees so the odds aren't good.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Primeultimus wrote:These will replace the TF Hero Mashers and random AOE places on the shelf I am sure.

Let's hope you will be proven right.

Down with Hero Mashers, Dino Riders, and Shampoo Bottles!

Those shampoo bottles will be replaced by the RID shampoo bottles. But yeah, I sure hope these new figures replace the non transforming TF stuff crowding the shelves. I actually think these are more a step in the right direction to get kids interested in TFs.

The movie stuff is certainly working its way out of stores, but don't expect Hero Mashers to go anywhere soon. Is it really that big of a deal anyway? Most of the stores I go to mix the Transformers and Marvel HMs together and sell them closer to the Marvel stuff than the Transformers.

At these prices I'm definitely keeping an eye out for 11" Prime and 7" Megatron and Starscream.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Primeultimus wrote:These will replace the TF Hero Mashers and random AOE places on the shelf I am sure.

Let's hope you will be proven right.

Down with Hero Mashers, Dino Riders, and Shampoo Bottles!

Those shampoo bottles will be replaced by the RID shampoo bottles. But yeah, I sure hope these new figures replace the non transforming TF stuff crowding the shelves. I actually think these are more a step in the right direction to get kids interested in TFs.

There's going to be RiD Hero Mashers too.

And while I get what you're saying, wouldn't the intention likely have been that they made the RiD toyline to appeal to kids, rather than the G1 rehashes? (Unless they were expecting Cartoon Network to bury RiD lik they have.)

Nemesis Primal wrote: There's going to be RiD Hero Mashers too.

Hoping Hasbro does some G1 styled pretenders for the Hero Mashers toy line. like Skullgrin, Bomb Burst, Starscream, Grimlock, Octopunch, Waverider and Iguanus.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote: There's going to be RiD Hero Mashers too.

Hoping Hasbro does some G1 styled pretenders for the Hero Mashers toy line. like Skullgrin, Bomb Burst, Starscream, Grimlock, Octopunch, Waverider and Iguanus.

Now THAT I want. I would really like a Hero Masher PRETENDER Starscream. I'll take the regular HM Screamers and create a mid-"revealing" starscream!

I never noticed this before but on the box for Megatron there's this big hunk of plastic coming down the side. Is the toy mis-transformed or am I going blind?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I never noticed this before but on the box for Megatron there's this big hunk of plastic coming down the side. Is the toy mis-transformed or am I going blind?

Nope, we've seen it in the initial catalog shot, too. It's his feet, apparently they pivot outward. If they pivot inward too then all the better for his poseability. I guess he has a stationary gun instead of a moving turret, but I think we knew that anyway.

Emerje

We've had low resolution images of the Transformers Cyber Battalion line (the 7 inch toys) and while we eventually got better images of the 11 inch line, it is now time to have new images for the 7 inch line as well. Brazillian (again!) retailer Toymania now has high quality images of the Cyber Battalion line for Starscream, Grimlock, Bumblebee and Megatron and the listings even feature new pictures of their alt modes which give us a better idea of the transformation involved. It also confirms that Megatron has a removable turret cannon that becomes a gun he can hold in robot mode.

Also, some do appear to have knees, such as Grimlock who knee-ds it for his transformation. Hasbro has stated that the MSRP on these 4 figures, whose images are mirrored below, is 14.99$ US.

That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

Rated X wrote:That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

If only Starscream had knees.

Rated X wrote:That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

What cannon arm, did you read the news post? The cannon is detachable.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

If only Starscream had knees.

At least Grimlock and Megatron seem to have some.

I don't really care for this lot... Except for Starscream. I can't have enough of the guy!

I just hope he can wear his null-rays the proper way. If not, meh, I have a drill.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

If only Starscream had knees.

At least Grimlock and Megatron seem to have some.

I can see joints on Starscream's knees as well. Again, if he is largely based on his Legends figure, he will have knees.

MrBlack wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

If only Starscream had knees.

At least Grimlock and Megatron seem to have some.

I can see joints on Starscream's knees as well. Again, if he is largely based on his Legends figure, he will have knees.

The right paint can do wonders for making single pieces of plastic seem made up of two.

Ok, I really like that Starscream.. And he looks like he has knees. I wonder if the Megatron can peg the gun on one of the pegs on the right arm?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't really care for this lot... Except for Starscream. I can't have enough of the guy!

I just hope he can wear his null-rays the proper way. If not, meh, I have a drill.

If you look at the very top of his shoulders you can see where his guns can be pegged in.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:That megatron could have had potential if it wasnt for the stupid cannon arm. They should make him in G2 colors. Starscream has potential for a million repaints.

If only Starscream had knees.

At least Grimlock and Megatron seem to have some.

I can see joints on Starscream's knees as well. Again, if he is largely based on his Legends figure, he will have knees.

The right paint can do wonders for making single pieces of plastic seem made up of two.

It's based on the Legends figure, but not so slavishly that everything matches perfectly. The feet don't turn into thrusters and his wings are now jointed, probably so they'll fit in the box (perhaps removable). If 11" Prime and Bee don't have knees then they have little reason to add knees when they aren't part of the transformation. They seem to be content with well articulated shoulders and hips.

Plus:



Clearly no knees.

Emerje

No knees? What is this, the 80's?

To bad Megs has a pouty face.

Zeek99g wrote:Too bad Megs has a pouty face.

Too many defeats can affect someone's mood.

Y'know, I don't mind these simplified transformations and upsizing or downsizing when they're done right and some of these are done right. What bothers me, immensely I might add, is that their articulation is severely limited on some things.

All of them could use pivots and ball joints everywhere. Wrist swivels, heads, knees, hips, ANKLES, I don't think it's too much to ask for those things and I can't imagine they add any difficulty to these molds. I just can't.

I hate it when they pull crap like this. Starscream actually looks like something I'd buy, I really do like him quite a bit, but the lack of something as simple as ankle pivots drives me insane.

Autobot032 wrote:Y'know, I don't mind these simplified transformations and upsizing or downsizing when they're done right and some of these are done right. What bothers me, immensely I might add, is that their articulation is severely limited on some things.

All of them could use pivots and ball joints everywhere. Wrist swivels, heads, knees, hips, ANKLES, I don't think it's too much to ask for those things and I can't imagine they add any difficulty to these molds. I just can't.

I hate it when they pull crap like this. Starscream actually looks like something I'd buy, I really do like him quite a bit, but the lack of something as simple as ankle pivots drives me insane.

Tsk tsk tsk. Sure, the lack of some articulations is a bummer for a lots of us. But you seem to miss the point of this line. SIMPLIFICATION. Too much articulations mean automatically a more complicated transformation. Most kids and adults that are just entering into the world of Transformers would have no clue where to start. So it's a great way to introduce the classic designs to beginners.

Never forget that before doing algebra one must first learn that 1+1=2.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Y'know, I don't mind these simplified transformations and upsizing or downsizing when they're done right and some of these are done right. What bothers me, immensely I might add, is that their articulation is severely limited on some things.

All of them could use pivots and ball joints everywhere. Wrist swivels, heads, knees, hips, ANKLES, I don't think it's too much to ask for those things and I can't imagine they add any difficulty to these molds. I just can't.

I hate it when they pull crap like this. Starscream actually looks like something I'd buy, I really do like him quite a bit, but the lack of something as simple as ankle pivots drives me insane.

Tsk tsk tsk. Sure, the lack of some articulations is a bummer for a lots of us. But you seem to miss the point of this line. SIMPLIFICATION. Too much articulations mean automatically a more complicated transformation. Most kids and adults that are just entering into the world of Transformers would have no clue where to start. So it's a great way to introduce the classic designs to beginners.

Never forget that before doing algebra one must first learn that 1+1=2.

Well, I'm certainly offended. Thanks for talking down to me, which wasn't necessary. Why, exactly, do you assume someone is stupid and needs it explained? Why am I not allowed to have my opinion without people like you crapping all over it?

I missed nothing, including the point of this line. An ankle pivot would add an extra step to Starscream's transformation? Really? A side to side pivot? A wrist that swivels?

In the future, think before you post something like this. It's offensive and unnecessary. Don't do it again.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Tsk tsk tsk. Sure, the lack of some articulations is a bummer for a lots of us. But you seem to miss the point of this line. SIMPLIFICATION. Too much articulations mean automatically a more complicated transformation. Most kids and adults that are just entering into the world of Transformers would have no clue where to start. So it's a great way to introduce the classic designs to beginners.

Never forget that before doing algebra one must first learn that 1+1=2.

They could easily add ball joints and thus some articulation without making it complicated. The only "complications" ball joints add is younger kids may have a bit of a harder time lining things up. When you're five years old, most times you just want to be able to transform them quickly and easily.