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News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:31 pm

I have the Family Dollar scout-sized Victory Saber, and it's wonderful. The jets are a little loose jointed.

by **Wes Crayon** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:13 pm

The Chaos Bringer wrote:I'm sure this was discussed earlier but I don't feel like searching through 76 pages

Are the Robot Masters KOs decent quality? Particularly the Victory Saber 2-pack? Would you say the quality is better or worse than the actual Robot Masters versions(since those aren't so great to begin with.)

Er... with it being a knockoff, I'd say the quality is probably worse than the actual Robot Masters versions. The plastic is kinda cheap and potentially delicate -- mine even came with the sword handle broken off in the package.

That said, $3 isn't a bad deal for two transforming robots that combine! So if you're okay with knockoffs, I'd recommend the set. I'd probably pay an absolute maximum of $5 for it, though -- so don't go getting it on eBay!

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:21 pm

Here are some knockoffs from the backs of a box a recently acquired. The names are pretty funny.

by **Optimist Prime** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:35 am

Garfitor??????

There is no semblance of 'giraffe' in that name. Sounds more appropriate for a Garfield Transformer.

by **Malikon** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:52 am

ew I like that Megatron KO

by **blunghole** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:16 pm

OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0184762746

I found him and four of his buddies on ebay. No Giant Snaptrap, unfortunatley. Dear God, please let them make a set that's a giant Piranacon!!!!

by **Skiman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:19 pm

I found this seller on eBay, but I'm not sure if he's legit. His record is perfect with 100% feedback but what are the odds of him having ALOT of non-applied sticker Transfomers. I was mainly interested in Bruticus but when I started asking questions about two of the Bruticus's he had, he flatly stop responding. Well i only asked him two questions, seems a little fishy to me, have you guys had this kind of experience before.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I patiently await not wanting to get ripped off. :???:

by **Wes Crayon** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:56 pm

Skiman wrote:I found this seller on eBay, but I'm not sure if he's legit. His record is perfect with 100% feedback but what are the odds of him having ALOT of non-applied sticker Transfomers. I was mainly interested in Bruticus but when I started asking questions about two of the Bruticus's he had, he flatly stop responding. Well i only asked him two questions, seems a little fishy to me, have you guys had this kind of experience before.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I patiently await not wanting to get ripped off.

Who's the seller? And are you asking how to tell if he's selling knockoffs, or if particular items are knockoff versions, or what? More info, please.

If you mean swimmistcn, though, he clearly says that these aren't originals. The words "China" and "reissue" together are pretty much synonymous with "knockoff".

by **Skiman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:08 pm

Wes Crayon wrote:
Skiman wrote:I found this seller on eBay, but I'm not sure if he's legit. His record is perfect with 100% feedback but what are the odds of him having ALOT of non-applied sticker Transfomers. I was mainly interested in Bruticus but when I started asking questions about two of the Bruticus's he had, he flatly stop responding. Well i only asked him two questions, seems a little fishy to me, have you guys had this kind of experience before.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I patiently await not wanting to get ripped off.

Who's the seller? And are you asking how to tell if he's selling knockoffs, or if particular items are knockoff versions, or what? More info, please.

If you mean swimmistcn, though, he clearly says that these aren't originals. The words "China" and "reissue" together are pretty much synonymous with "knockoff".

Ok here goes, well he does specify that they are all originals and that they are not knock offs, so I guess I am asking if they are or not.

Hopefully I do not affend the guy, especially if he's on this forum.

Member: cybertronians_world

by **swampflight** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:14 am

From my own experiences on e-bay,(5-year account),I can give you this advice,if you ask a question about any items for sale,no matter how specific,and you dont get a response,dont waste your time or money.Remember,e-bay is based on the idea that you're getting exactly what you pay for and although there are people out there that try to rip you off,fortunatly there's still honest sellers as well and thats who you want to deal with.

by **Windsweeper** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:54 am

Giant size Seacons? Having been lucky enough to get oversized G1 and G2 Bruticus, I'd love to get an oversized Piranacon. My new Grail!
Would look great with my 2 Bruticus and Predakings (original and KO).

Website · by **DeathNoble** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:55 am

Nobody's found the giant-zised Snaptrap that would complete the set, unfortunately. Trust me, I've been searching/still am searching for him. If I find him, then those other five giant seacons are a must...

by **Skiman** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:38 pm

swampflight wrote:From my own experiences on e-bay,(5-year account),I can give you this advice,if you ask a question about any items for sale,no matter how specific,and you dont get a response,dont waste your time or money.Remember,e-bay is based on the idea that you're getting exactly what you pay for and although there are people out there that try to rip you off,fortunatly there's still honest sellers as well and thats who you want to deal with.

I mean I would like to think that most of these unapplied sticker Transformers where not KO's but I can't really be for sure unless they are stamp with Takara 1984-85 or Hasbro?!

He does have a 100% feedback though...

by **Decatron** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:11 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Fre ... dZViewItem

Anybody have these KO's or know the quality? are they the same size as originals?

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:15 pm

Two new interesting knockoffs have appeared.

Transformax Superion Excellion - excellent colors, lacking wings? Is that key permantently fixed?

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Transformers-re ... dZViewItem

Knockoff Multiforce/Gatsblocker - A nice way to get some colorful diaclone drivers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Takara-Diaclone-Mul ... dZViewItem

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimist_Prime** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:26 pm

Does anyone here have this Liokaiser KO gift set. I just wanted to know how the quality is, because I don't an extra $500 bucks for a real one.

News Credits: 8 · by **gema** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:06 am

That excillion is ok though it's a bit stiff on the leg but still worth paying (I bought it for RM10 so maybe about USD3)

There others to like buzzsaw(average), dirtboss(great), blur(below average), override(great!!) and stormjet/afterburner (the color is way off) and also armada optimus without trailer
All of them doesn't have force chip and special weapon mechanism.

Here my picture of some of them (sorry the picture is quiet small)
http://images.azranct.multiply.com/image/3/photos/11/600x600/7/03102007285.jpg?et=JX98mXUEctE%2BADlC0MqyAA

And the LioKaizer are perfect except the absent of one of the jet/left hand and replace by the tank like robot.
That hand is toooo short which look aaaawfully weird. And I think there's no breast-shield-thing for all of them

by **swampflight** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:55 am

To Skiman,when you buy a K.O. transformer you have to remember that it might look like an original,even down to the dates printed on the plastic,its still a K.O..Iv'e bought these myself on e-bay and though the quality is usually good,there are still,though minor,flaws on the toy.As I stated before,if you have any questions about something that youre going to spend your money on,even if you dont think its important but still wonder about it,ASK!You also have to consider that theres a risk involved,even if the picture of the item looks good,that youre buying plastic junk so before you shell out the green stuff,the moola,the bling-bling,the cashola,the swag,the bread,the payola,etc.,etc.,make sure you know what youre paying for.And to all Cybertronions everywhere,HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:27 am

Optimist_Prime wrote:Does anyone here have this Liokaiser KO gift set. I just wanted to know how the quality is, because I don't an extra $500 bucks for a real one.

I found that Liokaiser knockoff to be fine. Doesn't fall apart. Of course it's missing the Breastmaster partners, but that doesn't effect their combined mode at all.

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimist_Prime** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:55 pm

Scaleface wrote:
Optimist_Prime wrote:Does anyone here have this Liokaiser KO gift set. I just wanted to know how the quality is, because I don't an extra $500 bucks for a real one.

I found that Liokaiser knockoff to be fine. Doesn't fall apart. Of course it's missing the Breastmaster partners, but that doesn't effect their combined mode at all.

That's great. I've kinda wanted a LioKaiser of some kind. This looks more than suitable for the display case.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:29 pm

Optimist_Prime wrote:
Scaleface wrote:
Optimist_Prime wrote:Does anyone here have this Liokaiser KO gift set. I just wanted to know how the quality is, because I don't an extra $500 bucks for a real one.

I found that Liokaiser knockoff to be fine. Doesn't fall apart. Of course it's missing the Breastmaster partners, but that doesn't effect their combined mode at all.

That's great. I've kinda wanted a LioKaiser of some kind. This looks more than suitable for the display case.

You guys do realize two members (Hellbat and Drillhorn) have been switched out, right? One of the substitutes is a KO Doubledealer.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:58 pm

Anyone know what the jet mold is?

News Credits: 1 · by **ionacus** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:04 am

Optimist_Prime wrote:Does anyone here have this Liokaiser KO gift set. I just wanted to know how the quality is, because I don't an extra $500 bucks for a real one.

i also have this leokaiser KO. it is made of pretty good plastic. though i forgot that there was the KO doubledealer.

News Credits: 1 · by **The Chaos Bringer** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:56 pm

Scaleface wrote:Knockoff Multiforce/Gatsblocker - A nice way to get some colorful diaclone drivers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Takara-Diaclone-Mul ... dZViewItem

OMG! How's the quality on that one? And are there any other Diaclone KOs out there?
I absolutely love Diaclone!

Dia-k-k-k-clone!

by **jason jupiter** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:50 pm

Hi everyone-

i'm an old-school KO collector, been at it for 10 years now. I have a very horrible website i haven't updated in awhile, lol. i've been back into collecting KO after a couple years hiatus preparing to go back to college.

http://www.geocities.com/kidk0rrupt/frames/bootlegs

love how international this thread is compared to other forums.

i have a small stock of OLD/RARE KO stuff i would love to trade for similar old/rare stuff from korea and taiwan, just email or PM me if you want to work out a deal. seems lots of you guys have really good stuff.

about the giant seacons, they are not THAT much bigger...about 1.2 the size of the originals, just barely oversized. the mold is from a very old and rare "giant" piranacon from the 90s. so far they have not made snaptrap yet but the original knockoff has a FACE:

there is also this old/rare 1:1 KO made of bad plastic: