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Noideaforaname wrote:
give Soundwave a 'musical' alt mode (which more or less just applied for the first movie).

?? You must be referring to Frenzy. SW was a satellite in ROTF.

Full shelves = shelfwarming ---yes, I've seen the same exact figs on full & half full shelves for months. NOT selling.

On whoring out -- the lame hollywood formula of very snazzy cars and lingerie models/ slutty chicks --just blatant eye candy with no depth to sell tickets and toys. All I'm asking for is just a little more character depth for the bots + cons. We care about THEM -- not the &*%&^*$&*% humans. The humans for that matter were also shallow characters and could've had at least some technical skill or prowess. Carly and Spike got themselves out of many situations with their wits and mechanical skills. (Ok, Megan Fox displayed some skill in TF1 & painting in ROTF, but Carly?? NOTHING in DOTM!!) The humans were so bland and uninteresting that they couldn't carry the movies themselves. Sick of this 1 dimensional sh*t. I blame Bay the writers & producers for all of this. No reason we couldn't have had action + depth as mentioned in some other threads. More character buildup + proper pacing = not just jump into non-stop fighting for no reason. Great to see action/fighting, but even better when you're really invested into the character.
hope this isn't too rambling - on very low sleep

all I'm asking for at the end of the day, is for the property to be handled with the same amount of care that Marvel has been giving to their staple characters. Is that too much?? Why is this so hard for people to understand?? Any fan of a franchise would want the same thing. And no, I'm not expecting a carbon copy of G1, just much better writing, story and overall execution. Stop being sheep.

the problem with calling people 'sheep' is you might think you're doing the franchise good but instead you're doing more harm. i recall in the early days of transformers fandom in the Philippines that there was only one group but their (the administration) persistence to make every member see the 'superiority' of g1 over beast wars (the main reason why most members joined the group in the first place) turned-off the majority that they split and made a new group.

basically you're calling all the fans of the live-action movies stupid that they lowered their expectations and standards to enjoy the movies, but that's just my interpretation of 'sheep'(because they follow what the shepherd(michael bay) and the sheepdogs(critics and the advertising guys) says?).

The people who blindly dilike the movies,does blame Hasbro.
They hate Hasbro,they hate Paramount,they hate Michael Bay,they hate Steven Spielberg,they hate
the desings,they hate the toys.
They hate everthing.

That why we call them haters.

The movies had some minor flaws,but that doesn stop them from being awesome.
I mean,there is a reason of why they make so make much money and sucess.

TulioDude wrote:The people who blindly dilike the movies,does blame Hasbro.
They hate Hasbro,they hate Paramount,they hate Michael Bay,they hate Steven Spielberg,they hate
the desings,they hate the toys.
They hate everthing.

That why we call them haters.

The movies had some minor flaws,but that doesn stop them from being awesome.
I mean,there is a reason of why they make so make much money and sucess.

I appreciated the designs and the toys, I think they look like great realistic adaptations of the Transformers. I just dislike the movies for the broken stories, lack of Transformer character development, and forced comedy. Don't be quick to make these judgments.

it just hit me... what did hasbro think of the megan fox debacle? how WTF-worthy would it be if hasbro wanted to keep fox in the third movie but got overriden by bay?

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:

TulioDude wrote:The people who blindly dilike the movies,does blame Hasbro.
They hate Hasbro,they hate Paramount,they hate Michael Bay,they hate Steven Spielberg,they hate
the desings,they hate the toys.
They hate everthing.

That why we call them haters.

The movies had some minor flaws,but that doesn stop them from being awesome.
I mean,there is a reason of why they make so make much money and sucess.

I appreciated the designs and the toys, I think they look like great realistic adaptations of the Transformers. I just dislike the movies for the broken stories, lack of Transformer character development, and forced comedy. Don't be quick to make these judgments.

^This.

I say sheep b/c you fans are willing to settle for such a sloppy product and/or kiss Bay's a$$ everytime he's criticized. To hell with that. Even if the human element was reduced drastically or very little presence at all, the movies still would've grossed a ton of $. A lot of people trash the GI Joe movie, but it was still handled much better than TF on the whole. Action + depth. Sommers was great - I don't care what anybody says. Wish he were directing instead.

vectorA3 wrote:I say sheep b/c you fans are willing to settle for such a sloppy product and/or kiss Bay's a$$ everytime he's criticized.

No, it's having an opinion different to yours.

That does NOT make a person a sheep.

If I see any more of this crap I will lock this thread just like I did the last one. I'm sick to death of either side insulting the other just because people simply cannot respect a differing opinion.

So this is it, last chance. You lot want to discuss this? Then do it in a civil manner because i'm not going to tolerate this sort of crap anymore.

Burn wrote:So this is it, last chance. You lot want to discuss this? Then do it in a civil manner because i'm not going to tolerate this sort of crap anymore.

I agree with Burn 100%. Lets have a civilized discussion please.

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:I appreciated the designs and the toys, I think they look like great realistic adaptations of the Transformers. I just dislike the movies for the broken stories, lack of Transformer character development, and forced comedy. Don't be quick to make these judgments.

I wasnt refering to anyone in particular,just the people who go like"TrAnSformers is RuIned FOREVAH!!SCREU Hasbro!SCrew Michael Bay!!!111!"

Let me quote myself:

TulioDude wrote:The people who blindly dilike the movies,does blame Hasbro.