Counterpunch wrote:Oral fixation?
Waaaah, G1 people can't and won't adapt to anything new.
Waaaah, New Guys place a bloated sense of importance on everything new.
It's all the same idiotic crap that happens with every new series.
No one wins these arguments. They just create a bunch of loosers.
I think that's a fair assessment of the fanbase maybe a year or so ago. Now, I don't see that many "Geewunners" so to speak. Most people want change, just not too much change, or if you're going to change, use a totally new cast of characters and context(Beast Wars).
The G1 continuity block, G1 cartoon, G1 comic, G1 anime, G2, Beast Wars and Beast Machines, is the only part of Transformers that's really that good. As soon as they tried to reboot the universe, they just started to get everything wrong. Tried too hard to be "hip" and follow other kids anime/cartoons instead of failing to realise how iconic Transformers can be.
This is why there's so much resistance to change - first off that people like Sonray come and shove it down our throats, and you can't even reason with them since they just go "Me!? Shoving stuff down people's throats? You are joking right!!!!", and secondly that most change HAS either been bad, or unnecessary.
The movie would have been a better movie if they'd have changed less, in terms of how many fans it would have pleased.
But yeah, I guess lips on Prime are offensive for the reason as much as the plate. But it's still ICONIC, that he keeps it on all of the time. Prime
speaking with the plate is iconic, not the fact that he raises it into battle. Then it's no different from, say, Bumblebee's mask.
The thing to remember that change for change's sake, when something isn't really broken, is not a good thing, inherently. Only good change should be praised, and good here is subjective.
People should be allowed to whine. It's part of the fun of being a fan, that you can actually take issues with some of what you're a fan of. It helps you remember what it is that made you a fan to begin with. People like, say, the guy who writes Shortpacked kind of ruin it for all of us. They suck the fun, the drama out of being a fan. They fail to realise why fans are like that and why it's best for them to be like that.
This new breed of change-pusher isn't something that's good for the fandom, at all. If we had taken a more united front against the movie, the execs behind the movie may have been worried this negativity would bleed over into the mainstream, and threw us a few bones. Even if you didn't mind change, you should at least stand up knowing that others do. I think a kind of selfishness and confusion is what caused a lot of what happened to the fanbase.
What happened also proves to me that merely being calm on the surface isn't enough - the boards seem to have calmed down a bit since more people have been bullied into submission. Most people that end up with mods, no offense, tend to be raised on the rather stupid ideas that people shouting and getting angry is what's bad(though make some exceptions for people they agree with, as is probably the case with Sonray right now), and anything else is good. As far as I'm concerned a couple of other TF boards I was on are much worse now, the whole fandom seems it. Calm doesn't mean better. it's better to have aggressive discussion as it shows that people just might be thinking for themselves and expressing themselves passionately. That's also part of the fun of being a fan, indicdentally.
There. Since people wanted to drag this a bit off topic, I said my piece. If someone wants to complain about anything to do with Transformers, they should be allowed to do so without some immature **** shouting in their face for it.
