The Energon Pub

So fort max reveal at the next toy show then? I can live with that

Also I'm feeling strangely confident that prime maybe a new mould or at least one that shares transformations aspects with leader UM instead of a retool (so no straight up rehead of minimus)

Bleh. Still think the original Headmaster nebulan figures looked far better than the Titan Masters. These just look super-dorky in their simplicity for this era.

Just realised Hardhead is only a deluxe looking at that image. Damn. I was hoping he would be a voyager. So he's gonna be way smaller than his G1 toy? Ugh. I just can't win for size classes with this lot.

Come on takara right hasbros wrong and give us sentinel prime and galvatron fixed heads and not be headmasters.

I'm definitely going to tweet the takara designers and ask for this.

i couldn't care less about sentinel as a character, and i personally don't think either of those alt modes fit astrotrain very well, the only issue i can see on the toy right now is that ill have to paint the cockpit onto the shuttle mode. other than that, i think the figure is gorgeous and im very excited for it. it reminds me of transformers cybertron with all the molding detail

Prowl4 wrote:Come on takara right hasbros wrong and give us sentinel prime and galvatron fixed heads and not be headmasters.

I'm definitely going to tweet the takara designers and ask for this.

Why would they? They have no connection to sentinel prime. Galvatron? They might but it's doubtful especially since they may have to completely change transformation depending on if the neck hole is covered or not.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Come on takara right hasbros wrong and give us sentinel prime and galvatron fixed heads and not be headmasters.

I'm definitely going to tweet the takara designers and ask for this.

Why would they? They have no connection to sentinel prime. Galvatron? They might but it's doubtful especially since they may have to completely change transformation depending on if the neck hole is covered or not.

That's cute. I remember when I first got the Internet. Please, send them a tweet I'm sure they'll get right on that.

Seriously, these toys are designed to transform without heads. Which a means there's no place for a retooled fixed head to go. They're designed to have the head removed for transformation and putting the head/pilot in the cockpit. Honestly? Either don't buy it or don't transform it and do the thing you had to do when you were a kid all those years ago with G1 toys that 3 points of articulation and use your imagination

bring on the fort max images.

with the return of the headmasters so to speak, anybody besides me think that Armada Sideways would get a Update of his Motorcycle Mode and Minicons from this line?

Not exactly in love with Sentinel's color scheme, but the figure is excellently designed. A new head, a gray and purple paint job, and we've got ourselves an Astrotrain.

Well, though he looks to be a heavy Metroplex retool, I am very excited for Fort Max. Guess that's next yeas titan. Don't expect a reveal of him for a while though

While these are nice and all, I'm kinda disappointed that Generations has drifted away from being old characters rebuilt with updated toy technology. I mean, some of these are old characters but they're pushed farther and farther from being the original guys. It's not like Has/Tak doesn't have concurrent lines for them to create new characters and ideas.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote: or make some headless bodies that I can fit Kirk, Loafer, Trizer et al. into.

I somehow doubt that these toys will be compatible with the Headmasters fron the 80's in the first place.

You can clearly see that the heads dont connect the same way. These are not compatible with G1 toys.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'm super stoked for this! I think Sentinal looks awesome! Galvatron too! I suuuuuuuper hate Headmasters, personally, but for the most part, it's worth it to have such beautiful figures. I'll kind of treat it like Minimus Ambus and pretend it doesn't exist.

However, I hope for the sake of consistency with the other recent Triple Changers, that the inevitable Astrotrain is NOT a headmaster... I just realllly hope that I can get the original six Triple Changers in a consistent style (in other words, Voyagers and not Headmatsers).

The voyager Titan Returns Class is definite. Meaning that all voyager triple changers in the Titans Return line will be headmasters.

As for Astrotrain, this sentinel prime releases makes me very happy. Buying third party is always worrisome in the way that you hope you arent wasting money to get some immediate satisfaction that wont last once Hasbro releases an official toy. I like Train TFs (especially old timey trains) so I did get myself a third party astrotrain that turned into a super sweet looking locomotive. This toy is going for a more cybertronian look so it doesnt conflict with what I bought. I can use the eventual astrotrain redeco (which I will wait for instead of buying Sentinel) as Astrotrain in his pre-earth days.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote: or make some headless bodies that I can fit Kirk, Loafer, Trizer et al. into.

I somehow doubt that these toys will be compatible with the Headmasters fron the 80's in the first place.

You can clearly see that the heads dont connect the same way. These are not compatible with G1 toys.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'm super stoked for this! I think Sentinal looks awesome! Galvatron too! I suuuuuuuper hate Headmasters, personally, but for the most part, it's worth it to have such beautiful figures. I'll kind of treat it like Minimus Ambus and pretend it doesn't exist.

However, I hope for the sake of consistency with the other recent Triple Changers, that the inevitable Astrotrain is NOT a headmaster... I just realllly hope that I can get the original six Triple Changers in a consistent style (in other words, Voyagers and not Headmatsers).

The voyager Titan Returns Class is definite. Meaning that all voyager triple changers in the Titans Return line will be headmasters.

As for Astrotrain, this sentinel prime releases makes me very happy. Buying third party is always worrisome in the way that you hope you arent wasting money to get some immediate satisfaction that wont last once Hasbro releases an official toy. I like Train TFs (especially old timey trains) so I did get myself a third party astrotrain that turned into a super sweet looking locomotive. This toy is going for a more cybertronian look so it doesnt conflict with what I bought. I can use the eventual astrotrain redeco (which I will wait for instead of buying Sentinel) as Astrotrain in his pre-earth days.

Their probably gonna remold it into Astrotrain to make it more "Astrotrainish"

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, though he looks to be a heavy Metroplex retool, I am very excited for Fort Max. Guess that's next yeas titan. Don't expect a reveal of him for a while though

I would hope it wouldn't be a remold i would hope an entirely new mold but time will show but still am i the only one still waiting for an metrotitan redeco? XD

frogbat wrote:i thought of armada omega supreme but yeah the ark is an interesting idea... TFA style.

Generations omega supreme mmm... i wonder though he might be low on their list. We need a broadside and maybe a better octane

He was confirmed yesterday to be inceredibly low on their list, here is yesterday,s Q and A:


Asked if watching the cartoon will required IDW comic knowledge. They said no, newcomers will be able to jump right in.
Headmaster necks will be balljointed like Brainstorm (in reference to Sentinel)
The Matrix of Leadership will play a role upcoming stories
Optimus Prime will reconcile it being more than just a thing as others look at it as an important artifact etc
Young child asked about Unicron. No plans at this time, but always a possibility for him to pop up somewhere down the line
Fan asks about more Masterpieces. Hasbro team says we hear the fans loud and clear
But they have no updated plans for Masterpiece line at this time

Prowl4 wrote:Come on takara right hasbros wrong and give us sentinel prime and galvatron fixed heads and not be headmasters.

I'm definitely going to tweet the takara designers and ask for this.

You are aware that Takara made these toys right? They were the ones that found how to make these toys feasable with the headmaster gimmicks. Dont know why they would go back to the drawing table and reconfigure everything so that it transfomrs with a head that doesnt detach (dont even know if its possible). With the upcoming Prime combiner they are releasing, Takara is showing us that they are ready to play along with hasbro's new gimmicks.

In any case, Galvatron isnt a triple changer in the cartoon either, so regardless of what takara does, this toy will never be his true G1 self. Just accept it or ignore it.

Sentinel Prime looks fantastic, even if he is just the obligatory Autobot pretool of Astrotrain to rake in more dough. Dat train mode...homina homina.

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Come on takara right hasbros wrong and give us sentinel prime and galvatron fixed heads and not be headmasters.

I'm definitely going to tweet the takara designers and ask for this.

Why would they? They have no connection to sentinel prime. Galvatron? They might but it's doubtful especially since they may have to completely change transformation depending on if the neck hole is covered or not.

That's cute. I remember when I first got the Internet. Please, send them a tweet I'm sure they'll get right on that.

Seriously, these toys are designed to transform without heads. Which a means there's no place for a retooled fixed head to go. They're designed to have the head removed for transformation and putting the head/pilot in the cockpit. Honestly? Either don't buy it or don't transform it and do the thing you had to do when you were a kid all those years ago with G1 toys that 3 points of articulation and use your imagination

First of all your patronizing comment is reflective of you as a person. Quite sad really.

Secondly social media is great as it gives a direct line to companies and the guys making these figures. Just fyi my tweets to the designers and takara have been retweeted already by a lot of fans. So I'm sure somebody would notice.

Thirdly in my opinion making characters that have never been nor never should be headmasters into headmasters disappoints me as a fan which I'm very entitled to voice.

Fourth point is that takara went to the bother of making full figures of wildrider, slingshot, groove and possibly blast off so I'm sure altering a head and making storage won't be a problem. They're designers and engineers after all. What are you?

Starsaber468 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, though he looks to be a heavy Metroplex retool, I am very excited for Fort Max. Guess that's next yeas titan. Don't expect a reveal of him for a while though

I would hope it wouldn't be a remold i would hope an entirely new mold but time will show but still am i the only one still waiting for an metrotitan redeco? XD

Sabr showed off the image and the design is similar to Metroplex as are the transformation joints and separation lines. It looks like it is a very heavy retool/reshell.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, though he looks to be a heavy Metroplex retool, I am very excited for Fort Max. Guess that's next yeas titan. Don't expect a reveal of him for a while though

I would hope it wouldn't be a remold i would hope an entirely new mold but time will show but still am i the only one still waiting for an metrotitan redeco? XD

Sabr showed off the image and the design is similar to Metroplex as are the transformation joints and separation lines. It looks like it is a very heavy retool/reshell.

Could you repost the picture?

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote: or make some headless bodies that I can fit Kirk, Loafer, Trizer et al. into.

I somehow doubt that these toys will be compatible with the Headmasters fron the 80's in the first place.

You can clearly see that the heads dont connect the same way. These are not compatible with G1 toys.

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Fair enough, let me clarify. What I would like to see is Hasbro make headless bodies for the heads they are issuing which would be visually complementary to the original 6 body-less heads. I have enough of the head receptacles and tumblers to make it work, I've just always thought those heads deserved their own designs, and this would be a nice opportunity to make that happen. I'm aware these new heads make the '88 heads look like giants, and '87 heads will not fit in these new bodies without modification

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote: or make some headless bodies that I can fit Kirk, Loafer, Trizer et al. into.

I somehow doubt that these toys will be compatible with the Headmasters fron the 80's in the first place.

You can clearly see that the heads dont connect the same way. These are not compatible with G1 toys.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'm super stoked for this! I think Sentinal looks awesome! Galvatron too! I suuuuuuuper hate Headmasters, personally, but for the most part, it's worth it to have such beautiful figures. I'll kind of treat it like Minimus Ambus and pretend it doesn't exist.

However, I hope for the sake of consistency with the other recent Triple Changers, that the inevitable Astrotrain is NOT a headmaster... I just realllly hope that I can get the original six Triple Changers in a consistent style (in other words, Voyagers and not Headmatsers).

The voyager Titan Returns Class is definite. Meaning that all voyager triple changers in the Titans Return line will be headmasters.

As for Astrotrain, this sentinel prime releases makes me very happy. Buying third party is always worrisome in the way that you hope you arent wasting money to get some immediate satisfaction that wont last once Hasbro releases an official toy. I like Train TFs (especially old timey trains) so I did get myself a third party astrotrain that turned into a super sweet looking locomotive. This toy is going for a more cybertronian look so it doesnt conflict with what I bought. I can use the eventual astrotrain redeco (which I will wait for instead of buying Sentinel) as Astrotrain in his pre-earth days.

See, I'm the opposite, at this point I think I'm done wasting money on Hasbros product, and would rather spend more money on 3rd party, but at least get a figure I'm happy with, and wasn't short changed for mass appeal.

I'm a fan of that Sentinel Prime, but goddamn does that thing reek of Astrotrain.

Now I eagerly await first images of a Titan-class Fortress Maximus that won't come until much later...

Prowl4 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Come on takara right hasbros wrong and give us sentinel prime and galvatron fixed heads and not be headmasters.

I'm definitely going to tweet the takara designers and ask for this.

Why would they? They have no connection to sentinel prime. Galvatron? They might but it's doubtful especially since they may have to completely change transformation depending on if the neck hole is covered or not.

That's cute. I remember when I first got the Internet. Please, send them a tweet I'm sure they'll get right on that.

Seriously, these toys are designed to transform without heads. Which a means there's no place for a retooled fixed head to go. They're designed to have the head removed for transformation and putting the head/pilot in the cockpit. Honestly? Either don't buy it or don't transform it and do the thing you had to do when you were a kid all those years ago with G1 toys that 3 points of articulation and use your imagination

First of all your patronizing comment is reflective of you as a person. Quite sad really.

Secondly social media is great as it gives a direct line to companies and the guys making these figures. Just fyi my tweets to the designers and takara have been retweeted already by a lot of fans. So I'm sure somebody would notice.

Thirdly in my opinion making characters that have never been nor never should be headmasters into headmasters disappoints me as a fan which I'm very entitled to voice.

Fourth point is that takara went to the bother of making full figures of wildrider, slingshot, groove and possibly blast off so I'm sure altering a head and making storage won't be a problem. They're designers and engineers after all. What are you?

Not expecting something not broken to be fixed. Also takara didn't make a new mold for wildrider and slingshot they're repaints with new heads that we also got from hasbro. Groove is a new mold. No reenginerring there. You're asking(depending) on them to gut already existing molds completely because that's what theyd have to do to-which they won't- just so little old you can live in a fairy tale where galvatron and sentinel prime are not headmasters.

what am I? Someone whos okay with change to 30 year old characters with a theme of change.

Prowl4 wrote:
Thirdly in my opinion making characters that have never been nor never should be headmasters into headmasters disappoints me as a fan which I'm very entitled to voice.

Fourth point is that takara went to the bother of making full figures of wildrider, slingshot, groove and possibly blast off so I'm sure altering a head and making storage won't be a problem. They're designers and engineers after all. What are you?

I couldn't agree more with you on the characters being shoehorned into being headmasters that really don't work. I realize it's not 'headmasters,' i.e. any of the 3 G1 storylines ( Marvel, US or Japanese cartoons ) but some characters shouldn't be using the next gimmick just because they're popular.

I don't know how handy you are but Galvatron does have that recess in his chest where the crest comes out. You could find a way to get a full head in there, possibly even using the mechanism that pops the crest out. I doubt you're going to see it officially ever, but that could be a workaround