The Energon Pub

[Midnight_Fox]

Ha ha, Takara failed big time. Seriously, all that black. Why? Hasbro wins for making Lockdown look like his on-screen counterpart.

What trailers have you been watching? Since when is Lockdown brown in the movie?

He's not brown on the figure, either. All that plastic is the same color. The picture of car mode is the best representation of the color, but the robot mode picture shows that the chest and other bot parts are made of the same plastic color as the visible car kibble.

[GuyIncognito]

So what is it, brownish-gray? Charcoal?

[Midnight_Fox]

So what is it, brownish-gray? Charcoal?

My screen shows it to be close to the gun-metal I use for miniatures with an ever so slight shift towards a warmer grey/steel.

But that's my eyes. Remember, not everyone's eyes detect color gradations and shades the same way(see those "men see fewer colors than women" studies for an example).

[GuyIncognito]

But that's my eyes. Remember, not everyone's eyes detect color gradations and shades the same way(see those "men see fewer colors than women" studies for an example).

Not to mention the fact that different monitors display colors differently. I use two monitors at work and it's remarkable how different certain colors can look when I move a document back and forth.

[Midnight_Fox]

But that's my eyes. Remember, not everyone's eyes detect color gradations and shades the same way(see those "men see fewer colors than women" studies for an example).

Not to mention the fact that different monitors display colors differently. I use two monitors at work and it's remarkable how different certain colors can look when I move a document back and forth.

Excellent point.

[william-james88]

So what is it, brownish-gray? Charcoal?

My screen shows it to be close to the gun-metal I use for miniatures with an ever so slight shift towards a warmer grey/steel.

But that's my eyes. Remember, not everyone's eyes detect color gradations and shades the same way(see those "men see fewer colors than women" studies for an example).

Wait, are you calling me a woman?

Just messing. I didnt know about that study, its interesting.

Anyways, Kanrabat had said that we should not expect deluxe sized masterpiece figures all the time, in reference to our comments and Lockdown and I wanted to get back to that. While I do see where he is coming from, with the Prime line it was easy to see that there were two types of figures Hasbro could do. There were the first editions and the RID. And when looking at the Bumblebee and Cliffjumper, the first editions were like mini deluxe sized masterpieces so we know that Hasbro can do great stuff at that size (hell, we are all talking about ROTF Lockdown). Just look at Cliffumper's chest. One actually used the alt mode parts and the other was just a fake cheat panel.
What those toy lines thaught me is that there are definately gradients of quality with figures and it seems that for these movie toys, Hasbro went the RID way and not the first edition way.

While I think this deluxe lockdown is ok (I like his chest but hate that large amount of back kibble)I do not think that expecting more from Hasbro is wrong either, especially when looking at the quality toys they have done in the past.

Someone said earlier that this is the golden age of transformer toys and though some of us laughed at that idea, I dont think he's too far off. We now have masterpieces coming out routinely, we had the Human Alliance line in the third film, and we have a growing collection of reimaginings of classic toys and characters in the form of the CHUG line. With all this beauty around, and this seeming golden age, .......

...it does annoy me that these AOE car toys have so much damn back kibble

But guys, you never know, there may be better stuff coming out later.

[Autobot032]

Though now it's pretty definite that his weapon is meant to fit over his noggin.

Im greatful for this. Finally a chance to shoot autobots in the face using someone's face.

Him and Optimus can have a great exchange:

O - "Give me your face!"

L - "Sure." *hands gun*

O - "No, your actual face!"

L - "I just did."

O - "That's a gun."

L - "Transformers, changing things into things.. that's my face."

O - "..."

L - *smiles up from OP's hands*

Well, this is nightmare fuel. Thank you so much for that.

[-Kanrabat-]

...it does annoy me that these AOE car toys have so much damn back kibble

That's the compromise they have to do for the movies aestetics. Since the very first Movie line, the car bots have the whole top of the car folded onto their back. Why you ask? simple: This is a form of SHELLFORMING. With the budget a deluxe have and mostly because we cannot replicate with 100% accuracy a Movie Transformation, they have no choices but to cheat and shellform.

Maybe in another 30 years we will get toys that auto-morph radically and magically at every steps, making them 100% kibble free and 100% screen accurate.

[Peridot]

Him and Optimus can have a great exchange:

O - "Give me your face!"

L - "Sure." *hands gun*

O - "No, your actual face!"

L - "I just did."

O - "That's a gun."

L - "Transformers, changing things into things.. that's my face."

O - "..."

L - *smiles up from OP's hands*

[Va'al]

Precisely.

[shocksound96]

I'm going to buy two of these. one to keep as lockdown the other to repaint as my OC transformer Shocksound

[chuckdawg1999]

I like how Lockdown looks outside of that head but I've always had a problem with "Organic" looking heads. As for why there aren't more Decepticons it was mentioned earlier in the thread that most car companies don't want their vehicles portrayed as bad guys.

[-Kanrabat-]

I like how Lockdown looks outside of that head but I've always had a problem with "Organic" looking heads. As for why there aren't more Decepticons it was mentioned earlier in the thread that most car companies don't want their vehicles portrayed as bad guys.

Bunch of sissies... FAWK IT. Why not unique cars à la Vehicon or more planes and tanks? Does every single bot need to have a licenced vehicle deal, for crying out loud?!

[noctorro]

It's disappointing how little the villains of the movies are regarded, in both the films and in the toylines. The Big Four went down like nothing in the last movie, especially Megatron who was barely in it. They gave Skids, Mudflap and Jolt DOTM toy updates, but Soundwave got NOTHING domestically.

True,

A hero is only as good as his villain.

I love villains like Bane, Winter Soldier, Joker, Loki. And I think they actually did Sentinel Prime very well in the last TF movie, even Megatron I liked (even for the short time he had).

Things like Devastator in ROTF, getting defeated by 2 minibots and a human boat, is so Not Done. But I think they're learning.

Always give the main villain a great toy in scale with the main hero. DOTM was terrible in that, Buster Prime vs little voyager Megatron?

[chuckdawg1999]

I like how Lockdown looks outside of that head but I've always had a problem with "Organic" looking heads. As for why there aren't more Decepticons it was mentioned earlier in the thread that most car companies don't want their vehicles portrayed as bad guys.

Bunch of sissies... FAWK IT. Why not unique cars à la Vehicon or more planes and tanks? Does every single bot need to have a licenced vehicle deal, for crying out loud?!

Some companies have a certain public, family friendly, image that having one of their cars portrayed as a villain in a movie, doing absolutely abominable things could damage. My big issue is why we don't see more real cars, the kind that don't stand out like an Altima, or Sonata. If I see a Bugati on my block that's going to stand out to me, to the point that I just might call the police since my area is a poorer neighborhood and that car might bring the wrong kind of attention.

[Mindmaster]

Knock-knock. Who's there? Transformers Columbia! Once again, the infamous Facebook page has uploaded images of new Transformers product, this time featuring Construct-Bots Galvatron and, oddly, Starscream! Does this mean that Starscream might make a return in Age of Extinction? Or is this simply just a case of a character receiving a toy just for the sake of getting a toy? Chime in at the Energon Pub forums of what you think!

[Deadput]

Look at Screamer's left eye


it looks like damage like perhaps boom stick damage?




Starscream has been known to come back from the dead or survive things he should not.

[Burn]

Bunch of sissies... FAWK IT. Why not unique cars à la Vehicon or more planes and tanks? Does every single bot need to have a licenced vehicle deal, for crying out loud?!

Well yeah ... for starters, most of the car companies will provide the vehicles to be used for filming so that saves money as opposed to paying someone to design and then build the vehicles.

Plus people will watch the movie and go "oooo I like that car! Ima gonna go buy one!" So that's even more incentive for them to use licensed vehicles.

But in all fairness, they have had variety with movie vehicles, we've had tanks, planes, construction vehicles, home appliances, vending machines ...

[Mindmaster]

Look at Screamer's left eye


it looks like damage like perhaps boom stick damage?




Starscream has been known to come back from the dead or survive things he should not.

Or it could be just a facial expression. Wouldn't be the first in the Dino Riders part of the Construct-Bots line.

[Deadput]

Look at Screamer's left eye


it looks like damage like perhaps boom stick damage?




Starscream has been known to come back from the dead or survive things he should not.

Or it could be just a facial expression. Wouldn't be the first in the Dino Riders part of the Construct-Bots line.

Yeah but the eye is just looks like its falling apart

[Zeedust]

Starscream has been known to come back from the dead or survive things he should not.

[Burn]

Look at Screamer's left eye


it looks like damage like perhaps boom stick damage?

Starscream has been known to come back from the dead or survive things he should not.

Or it could be just a facial expression. Wouldn't be the first in the Dino Riders part of the Construct-Bots line.

Yeah but the eye is just looks like its falling apart

I was thinking he was just doing his best impersonation of DC's "The Weird"

[Deadput]

Starscream has been known to come back from the dead or survive things he should not.

Yeah but did he actually die in that episode?



no he did not so there is my point.

[Yweggo]

Passed on the other Dino-riders cause I didn't like the look, these two I might just get.

[Noideaforaname]

But in all fairness, they have had variety with movie vehicles, we've had tanks, planes, construction vehicles, home appliances, vending machines ...

They HAD a nice variety of alts, but now they don't. The first movie really gave the impression that anything could be a robot in disguise, but now it's like "look at the custom $2 million dollar car Ferrari hand-delivered to me!" Bah.

[snark] If only Bay got as exited to sell the robots as he does the cars...