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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:40 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:06 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.


Then, add shipping, $ conversion rate, and a sureshot custom fee, and you end up paying double or even triple the base BBTS price.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:43 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.

its double because there's two figures on that order, thats about what walmarts prices are and shipping for them at bbts is pretty cheap
maybe Canadians have limited options on shipping and extra fees or somthing
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby padfoo » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:00 pm

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I went by today, I have two stores with 20 minutes of my house between the two they had tons of stuff, but no Arcee or voyager figures. I picked up a Chromia for my son. The lady who helped us said collectors are buying them by the case.. very unfortunate for me because I was looking for Arcee and a voyager Sandstorm.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:02 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.

its double because there's two figures on that order, thats about what walmarts prices are and shipping for them at bbts is pretty cheap
maybe Canadians have limited options on shipping and extra fees or somthing


To Canada, shipping is not too bad. However...
As I said, it was fun 4 years ago when 1$CAN was equal to 1$US. Now, it's back to 70¢US for 1$CAN. Meaning we pay american stuff 30% more. Not only that, there's custom fees. BBTS don't charge import fees so it's a ticking bomb. Meaning if custom fees hit, we have to pay 15% more in taxes, plus an additional 10$ in fees.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:09 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.

its double because there's two figures on that order, thats about what walmarts prices are and shipping for them at bbts is pretty cheap
maybe Canadians have limited options on shipping and extra fees or somthing


Your reply tells me you are not following what the guy was saying initially or what we are talking about in the thread right now. But thats fine, theres lots going on. We are talking about the prices at Ollies. The thing here is that while these figures never came to Canada, they are now available at HALF PRICE at the Ollies outlet. So the guy above is asking for people to ship it to them. Yes they are available online as I pointed out, but at double the Ollies price (since Ollies is half price the retail price). So if somone gets them for him from Ollies, he will be saving at least 20$ cdn overall than from buying both figures at BBTS. That is what this whole discussion has been about.

Anyways... As I pointed out, a similar deal is currently on in Canada at out own discount outlets, such as Giant Tiger. Its last year's generations figures, at cheaper than retail, but of course it doesnt have Arcee or Chromia:

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:22 pm

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Damn, I should check out Giant Tiger!... In two weeks when I'll have some money... and all the TFs will be gone...
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:28 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Damn, I should check out Giant Tiger!... In two weeks when I'll have some money... and all the TFs will be gone...


I thought you had all of last year's gen toys. I remember TRU having a real steal of a deal at 8$ each last year and you just bought them all.

While I am here in this thread, I have a question. Who is Venin? I am referring to Acid Storm's targetmaster. Was he anywhere in the fiction? Or a brand new character with no fiction yet?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

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The only one that still elude me is that damn Acid Storm. It keep popping up everywhere, just out of reach. It's very frustrating.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:55 pm

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william-james88 wrote:While I am here in this thread, I have a question. Who is Venin? I am referring to Acid Storm's targetmaster. Was he anywhere in the fiction? Or a brand new character with no fiction yet?
According to designer Joe Kyde, Venin was originally going to be in the colors of Venom, the G1 Deluxe Insecticon, back when the Acid Storm toy was originally going to be Thundercracker. However, when it was decided by Hasbro to change the Thundercracker release into Acid Storm, the colors of his Targetmaster partner were also changed presumably to better match with Acid Storm's colors. The name itself is the French word for "venom", presumably used due to Hasbro being unable to Trademark the name "Venom".

So does this make Venin be Venom? Well, that might have been the original intent, but the end result has both a different name and none of the same colors as Venom so there's room for him to be his own guy if one wanted him to be.

Plus, one of TakaraTomy's Legends manga had Generations Venin and the Japanese AOE campaign Micron Buzz Saw both make an appearance... as Waspinator's sons (or at least, as the sons of that particular version of Waspinator, the one who lives in the Legends Universe). And that's currently the only fiction we have for the guy, so... yeah.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:59 pm

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william-james88 wrote:While I am here in this thread, I have a question. Who is Venin? I am referring to Acid Storm's targetmaster. Was he anywhere in the fiction? Or a brand new character with no fiction yet?
According to designer Joe Kyde, Venin was originally going to be in the colors of Venom, the G1 Deluxe Insecticon, back when the Acid Storm toy was originally going to be Thundercracker. However, when it was decided by Hasbro to change the Thundercracker release into Acid Storm, the colors of his Targetmaster partner were also changed presumably to better match with Acid Storm's colors. The name itself is the French word for "venom", presumably used due to Hasbro being unable to Trademark the name "Venom".

So does this make Venin be Venom? Well, that might have been the original intent, but the end result has both a different name and none of the same colors as Venom so there's room for him to be his own guy if one wanted him to be.

Plus, one of TakaraTomy's Legends manga had Generations Venin and the Japanese AOE campaign Micron Buzz Saw both make an appearance... as Waspinator's sons (or at least, as the sons of that particular version of Waspinator, the one who lives in the Legends Universe). And that's currently the only fiction we have for the guy, so... yeah.


Interesting, thanks! So yeah, I guess his own guy. No way he would be gen Bugly right?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:22 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:While I am here in this thread, I have a question. Who is Venin? I am referring to Acid Storm's targetmaster. Was he anywhere in the fiction? Or a brand new character with no fiction yet?
According to designer Joe Kyde, Venin was originally going to be in the colors of Venom, the G1 Deluxe Insecticon, back when the Acid Storm toy was originally going to be Thundercracker. However, when it was decided by Hasbro to change the Thundercracker release into Acid Storm, the colors of his Targetmaster partner were also changed presumably to better match with Acid Storm's colors. The name itself is the French word for "venom", presumably used due to Hasbro being unable to Trademark the name "Venom".

So does this make Venin be Venom? Well, that might have been the original intent, but the end result has both a different name and none of the same colors as Venom so there's room for him to be his own guy if one wanted him to be.

Plus, one of TakaraTomy's Legends manga had Generations Venin and the Japanese AOE campaign Micron Buzz Saw both make an appearance... as Waspinator's sons (or at least, as the sons of that particular version of Waspinator, the one who lives in the Legends Universe). And that's currently the only fiction we have for the guy, so... yeah.


Interesting, thanks! So yeah, I guess his own guy. No way he would be gen Bugly right?


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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:47 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.

its double because there's two figures on that order, thats about what walmarts prices are and shipping for them at bbts is pretty cheap
maybe Canadians have limited options on shipping and extra fees or somthing


Your reply tells me you are not following what the guy was saying initially or what we are talking about in the thread right now. But thats fine, theres lots going on. We are talking about the prices at Ollies. The thing here is that while these figures never came to Canada, they are now available at HALF PRICE at the Ollies outlet. So the guy above is asking for people to ship it to them. Yes they are available online as I pointed out, but at double the Ollies price (since Ollies is half price the retail price). So if somone gets them for him from Ollies, he will be saving at least 20$ cdn overall than from buying both figures at BBTS. That is what this whole discussion has been about.

Anyways... As I pointed out, a similar deal is currently on in Canada at out own discount outlets, such as Giant Tiger. Its last year's generations figures, at cheaper than retail, but of course it doesnt have Arcee or Chromia:

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no i was following and i didnt see the later post on the matter but i didnt realize all that goes into buying online when you live in canada because in america when i bought items from another county i never had any added B.S. the price plus shipping on the site is what i payed, anyway i feel for those who have to deal with that i bet it takes the fun out of it all
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Rated X » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:44 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:DAMMIT! These don't exist in Canada? Could someone grab those two for me? I can pay for them and shipping! Preferably someone who lives somewhere were the shipping won't wreak havoc on the price! XD

you cant order them online?


Not at those prices. This is the cheapest online: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

And that is double what these are going for.

its double because there's two figures on that order, thats about what walmarts prices are and shipping for them at bbts is pretty cheap
maybe Canadians have limited options on shipping and extra fees or somthing


Your reply tells me you are not following what the guy was saying initially or what we are talking about in the thread right now. But thats fine, theres lots going on. We are talking about the prices at Ollies. The thing here is that while these figures never came to Canada, they are now available at HALF PRICE at the Ollies outlet. So the guy above is asking for people to ship it to them. Yes they are available online as I pointed out, but at double the Ollies price (since Ollies is half price the retail price). So if somone gets them for him from Ollies, he will be saving at least 20$ cdn overall than from buying both figures at BBTS. That is what this whole discussion has been about.

Anyways... As I pointed out, a similar deal is currently on in Canada at out own discount outlets, such as Giant Tiger. Its last year's generations figures, at cheaper than retail, but of course it doesnt have Arcee or Chromia:

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Wow so much drama over 20 bucks. I could understand the rage if these were takara figures, but there just hasbro bottom of the line retail figures. Just order em online and at bbts and be done with it. All these complaints about shipping seem a bit extreme in my opinion. Dont Canadians get free government healthcare ? Thats 1000 bucks saved that I have to spend every year on health insurance. Take some of that money saved and treat yourself to a few online purchases. Its a proper G1 Arcee that took 30 years to become a reality....treat yourself, you deserve it. :D
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:09 pm

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:24 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:They still pay for healthcare, just in the form of super high taxes. Nothing is free.


Yeah, and the system is not perfect. Like, for example, the horribly long wait time in the waiting room. I had a very severe coughing fit one time. It was a light pneumonia. So I went to the hospital at 9AM. At 9PM I was out with some prescribed antibiotics. I was sick like a dog on a damn chair for a whole day... Stiiiiiiilllll...... The only thing I had to pay was my medication.... an bankrupcy inducting 17$CAN for 3 days of pills to get cured.

Yeah, sure, we pay around 40% of IRS taxes and sales taxes are at 15%... Also, we have to pay around 300$ for the provincial medication insurance gorvernment program yearly. I just cant imagine what that hospital visit and medication would have cost me if I was living in the USA! :shock:
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:29 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:They still pay for healthcare, just in the form of super high taxes. Nothing is free.


Yeah, and the system is not perfect. Like, for example, the horribly long wait time in the waiting room. I had a very severe coughing fit one time. It was a light pneumonia. So I went to the hospital at 9AM. At 9PM I was out with some prescribed antibiotics. I was sick like a dog on a damn chair for a whole day... Stiiiiiiilllll...... The only thing I had to pay was my medication.... an bankrupcy inducting 17$CAN for 3 days of pills to get cured.

Yeah, sure, we pay around 40% of IRS taxes and sales taxes are at 15%... Also, we have to pay around 300$ for the provincial medication insurance gorvernment program yearly. I just cant imagine what that hospital visit and medication would have cost me if I was living in the USA! :shock:


Well, they probably would've seen you immediately - and you could've gone to an urgent care, or a similar walk-in clinic, you wouldn't have to go straight to a hospital, and insurance probably would've picked up the bills - not the right person to answer this, but that seems to be general idea...
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:32 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:They still pay for healthcare, just in the form of super high taxes. Nothing is free.


Thats totally true. However, I find a lot of comfort in knowing that I am immediately reaping from the taxes I pay. Also (and this is where we truly win at saving costs) since the government handles the medicair/insurance for every citizen, it has a monopoly in terms of barganing power. Unlike the US which has insurance split between a bunch of small firms, canada can better regulate the cost of medication. So pretty much, you have one body buying medication for 32 million people. Thats a client you want to keep happy, that keeps prices of medication super super low in comparison to the states and that is the main point in how canada can get more for the same amount as whatever the average insurance price is in the states.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Counterpunch » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:07 am

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Like for instance, how we could use an updated Generations Ratchet that isn't trash...

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:20 am

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Counterpunch wrote:Topic please. >:oP

Like for instance, how we could use an updated Generations Ratchet that isn't trash...

(Since we're talking healthcare)


Indeed, I find myself torn on this topic, as I really dislike the '84 :BOT: idea, yet I really want another :BOT: use of first-aid as it's such a great limb :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:33 am

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Counterpunch wrote:Topic please. >:oP

Like for instance, how we could use an updated Generations Ratchet that isn't trash...

(Since we're talking healthcare)


Indeed, I find myself torn on this topic, as I really dislike the '84 :BOT: idea, yet I really want another :BOT: use of first-aid as it's such a great limb :HEADHURTS:
Does CW Trailbreaker use the open truck bed or the covered?

I'm also left wondering what kind of healthcare system they have implemented on Cybertron. :-? :o)
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:36 am

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Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Topic please. >:oP

Like for instance, how we could use an updated Generations Ratchet that isn't trash...

(Since we're talking healthcare)


Indeed, I find myself torn on this topic, as I really dislike the '84 :BOT: idea, yet I really want another :BOT: use of first-aid as it's such a great limb :HEADHURTS:
Does CW Trailbreaker use the open truck bed or the covered?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:39 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Topic please. >:oP

Like for instance, how we could use an updated Generations Ratchet that isn't trash...

(Since we're talking healthcare)


Indeed, I find myself torn on this topic, as I really dislike the '84 :BOT: idea, yet I really want another :BOT: use of first-aid as it's such a great limb :HEADHURTS:
Does CW Trailbreaker use the open truck bed or the covered?
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Of all characters, they should have giveb HIM First Aid's alt mode. >:oP
Still gonna get him though. :P
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:13 am

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Cobotron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Topic please. >:oP

Like for instance, how we could use an updated Generations Ratchet that isn't trash...

(Since we're talking healthcare)


Indeed, I find myself torn on this topic, as I really dislike the '84 :BOT: idea, yet I really want another :BOT: use of first-aid as it's such a great limb :HEADHURTS:
Does CW Trailbreaker use the open truck bed or the covered?
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Of all characters, they should have giveb HIM First Aid's alt mode. >:oP
Still gonna get him though. :P


Indeed, it would've actually looked more like trailbreaker, but I guess it's worth it for the new arm >:oP

I really feel myself weakening towards these guys, I was only going to get hound, but wheeljack looks pretty great, and so does trailbreaker - will never get smokescreen, I would sooner get two hounds. I guess by the time they're going to be dropped we'll probably know if wheeljack is going to be used as a technobot, so I can know whether or not to skip him :-?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby darkjedi187 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:05 pm

Stopped at my local Ollie's in Ohio and found everyone but Arcee. Really wanted to find one for my daughter. If anyone has a space please let me know, I would really appreciate it.
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