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[Sabrblade]

Recently I found both Nightbeat and Jhiaxus and I bought them both on a whim. I had them both for about a week unopened as I kept pondering to myself. Is it safe to say that they will both be a Takara release? Nothing grinds my gears more than getting the Hasbro release only to find out how much better the Takara version actually is. So I chose to return them both for the simple possibility.

Do we know if this will be or no word yet? My thanks to anyone that may know.

Takara Windblade have been announced for ages and is just around the corner. Jiaxus is a given as well.

But heh, if you want to pay 40-50$ each figures instead of 15-20$, go nut.

There's been no word of a Takara release of Nightbeat or Jhiaxus.

The closest there has been is the Million Publishing release of Goshooter that uses he Nightbeat head, but no announcement of Nightbeat proper. Nor of Jhiaxus. Or Skids. Or Crosscut. Or Dreadwing. Or Goldfire.

Windblade got announced since Takara's gonna release her with Arcee and Chromia as a special trio of fembots in one wave.

Doubledealer got released as Cloud Starscream, but not as himself proper. And Scoop's getting released in the Japanese RID line as someone named Roadblock, so who know what he'll look like.

So yeah, Takara has sure been skipping out on a lot of Hasbro's Generations toys, either not releasing them at all, or only releasing them as something other than the characters that Hasbro intended them to be.

[-Kanrabat-]

So yeah, Takara has sure been skipping out on a lot of Hasbro's Generations toys, either not releasing them at all, or only releasing them as something other than the characters that Hasbro intended them to be.

What? Is that a new trend? Because for like, ever, if Hasbro put a TF in stores, Takara would make a premium version of that automatically.
Now, Takara is going all weird.

So, the lesson is, you want that sh!t, you get that sh!t. Why wait? Unless you dont really want it. In that case, if Takara don't release that character at all and the Hasbro version is now only on Ebay at marked-up prices, it shouldn't be a problem.

[Sabrblade]

Full list of every Generations figure Takara has either yet to release or has released as something else:

• Junkheap
• Sky Shadow (Black Shadow)
• FOC Impactor
• FOC Twintwist
• FOC Topspin
• FOC Roadbuster
• FOC Whirl
• Cosmos & Payload
• Skrapnel & Reflector
• Acid Storm & Venin (they did release the original Starscream and Waspinator versions, but not these redecoed versions)
• Gears & Eclipse
• Nemesis Prime & Spinister (they did release the original Optimus and Blazemaster versions, but not these redecoed versions)
• Cliffjumper & Suppressor (they did release the original Bumblebee and Roller versionsn but not these redecoed versions)
• Dreadwing
• Skids (his AOE redeco of Rollbar is getting released as a store exclusive, but not the original Skids version)
• Goldfire (the original Bumblebee version got released as "Bumblebee Goldbug", making this version redundant)
• Scoop (will be coming in the Japanese RID line as Roadblock, but no word if the it'll still look like Scoop or be something different)
• Crosscut
• Jhiaxus
• Nightbeat (redecoed into Goshooter for Million Publishing, but not released as Nightbeat proper)
• Doubledealer (was redecoed and released as Cloud Starscream, but not released as Doubledealer proper)
• Any of the GDO retoolings (though, both Megatron and the unreleased Brawn got redecoed and released in the Cloud line)

[Jelze Bunnycat]

• Any of the GDO retoolings

GDO Megatron as Cloud Megatron, canceled GDO Brawn as Cloud Brawn.

[Sabrblade]

• Any of the GDO retoolings

GDO Megatron as Cloud Megatron, canceled GDO Brawn as Cloud Brawn.

Right, but not as Generations. Added a note, though.

[shajaki]

yeah. theres just no telling what takara will and wont release these days. ive been buying 99% of hasbros figures for the past year or so, and doubling up with takaras if there was a reason to (ie: better deco). sometimes there isnt any need to cause hasbro has had the superior version of some figures lately. but either way, i dont want to get caught with my pants down. so unless i see a new figure on the shelf that i already know takara is besting, im buyin it.

come to think of it, only generations figure i have (or will be) passing on lately is roadbuster. damn stickers.

[gothsaurus]

AW! Roadbuster was great. Not perfect, but really excellent.

[shajaki]

AW! Roadbuster was great. Not perfect, but really excellent.

not to worry. ill be getting takaras

[mooncake623]

With Generations Arcee due to be released anytime now, some fans has been able get their hands on this figure early and according to youtube reviewer felzbug there might be a variant out there for everyone to look for. It would appear that different production runs made changes and there will be Arcees out there that have closed hands and open hands. Check out the video we've embedded below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

[Cyber Bishop]

Interesting. I know mine has closed hands.

[Zeedust]

I hope if/when I get one it has closed hands, but I'm not going to put extra time/money into making sure.

[iguanabytes]

Arcee of the open hand brings peace and justice- Arcee of the closed hand brings war and destruction- all must fear Arcee of the closed hand

[Madeus Prime]

Hmmm interesting.... I like the open handed look better. Gives her a less toy-like appearance.

Surely you could grind down the bottom of the hand so she can hold her weapon better?

[Mr_Autobot411]

im like cool open hands!

then i see she can barley hold her gun, so now im like, not so cool open hands! lololol

hope we get the closed hands in toronto.

[Zeedust]

Hmmm interesting.... I like the open handed look better. Gives her a less toy-like appearance.

I can live with my toys looking like toys.

I prefer closed hands because they're usually molded to look like fists and thus look right whether they're holding something or not, whereas open hands it's usually one or the other, but not both.

[YRQRM0]

Arcee of the open hand brings peace and justice- Arcee of the closed hand brings war and destruction- all must fear Arcee of the closed hand

[Flashwave]

I just they'd retool her without the bellybutton and blatent abs. A nice angular faux belly is fine, I get it, but its too human, and I find it distracting for a robot. (Now, on a real girl, rwr rowr...)

[Flashwave]

I just they'd retool her without the bellybutton and blatent abs. A nice angular faux belly is fine, I get it, but its too human, and I find it distracting for a robot. (Now, on a real girl, rwr rowr...)

[RiddlerJ]

I hope it's not because this Arcee figure has thumb issues too.

[fenrir72]

I hope it's not because this Arcee figure has thumb issues too.

Stress marks are sure to be expected bro. Good that they improved it. I wonder if the Tomy ones will sport this change?

[Seibertron]

Anyone have a moment to recap the quality control issues with Brainstorm?

[Cobotron]

Anyone have a moment to recap the quality control issues with Brainstorm?

Mostly has to do with the headmaster's head.
It's on a post attached with a screw. If your not careful with the mechanism that connects with the torso, the headmasters head will break off when you pull. stripping the threads in the neck and severing the head. The head tends to insert to far into the mechanism, and too much force is needed to get it out.
Also sounds like some sloppy residuals from sprew(spell?) separation.

[ScottyP]

Anyone have a moment to recap the quality control issues with Brainstorm?

Mostly has to do with the headmaster's head.
It's on a post attached with a screw. If your not careful with the mechanism that connects with the torso, the headmasters head will break off when you pull. stripping the threads in the neck and severing the head. The head tends to insert to far into the mechanism, and too much force is needed to get it out.
Also sounds like some sloppy residuals from sprew(spell?) separation.

Yikes. Good thing to know ahead of time though, so I can check for mold flash, extra gate, and maybe loosen up the assembly a bit.

[craggy]

"Catch a ride!"

[Cobotron]

Anyone have a moment to recap the quality control issues with Brainstorm?

Mostly has to do with the headmaster's head.
It's on a post attached with a screw. If your not careful with the mechanism that connects with the torso, the headmasters head will break off when you pull. stripping the threads in the neck and severing the head. The head tends to insert to far into the mechanism, and too much force is needed to get it out.
Also sounds like some sloppy residuals from sprew(spell?) separation.

Yikes. Good thing to know ahead of time though, so I can check for mold flash, extra gate, and maybe loosen up the assembly a bit.

Scotty P, if you see this, would you mind explaining?
Mold flash? (is that what you call the "residuals from sprew(spell?) separation?)
Extra Gate?

watching the 2 vid reviews really helped to know what to expect and how to avoid the head issues.
Thanks

Baltmatrix review - head breaks and other QC issues
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/official-transformers-generations-thrilling-30-discussion-thread-t99864s1075.php#p1618908

Peaugh review - possible remedies
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/official-transformers-generations-thrilling-30-discussion-thread-t99864s1100.php#p1619204