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Burn wrote:Know why the Marvel Cinematic Universe succeeds?
Because it has well established characters to draw on, because it was, and is, a long term plan all craftily woven together.
Know why a Transformers Cinematic Universe will fail?
Because they've only established half a dozen characters. Yes, as TF fans we can say there's lot of other characters they can draw from, but outside of IDW comics, there's not that many "well established".
Of course, this is all just rumour. However, were it to come to fruition, it would be a fail.
Don't bother arguing with me Sly, your opinion regarding this is already known, I know what you're going to say, so don't waste your time because I just won't listen.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:In my mind, the problem is the damage that has been done by the Bay movies.
Burn wrote:Know why the Marvel Cinematic Universe succeeds?
Because it has well established characters to draw on, because it was, and is, a long term plan all craftily woven together.
Know why a Transformers Cinematic Universe will fail?
Because they've only established half a dozen characters. Yes, as TF fans we can say there's lot of other characters they can draw from, but outside of IDW comics, there's not that many "well established".
Of course, this is all just rumour. However, were it to come to fruition, it would be a fail.
Don't bother arguing with me Sly, your opinion regarding this is already known, I know what you're going to say, so don't waste your time because I just won't listen.
Funnily enough, those were among the many more complaints people had about the original Beast Wars series, and yet that show won many people over with its exceptional storytelling and character portrayals.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think if Hasbro did do a Beast Wars movie. The viewers and fans complaints would be. Why isn't peter cullen and Frank Welker. Doing the voices of Optimus and Megatron. Some would say where is Bumblebee. Why are there so many characters not from the 1980's.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:In my mind, the problem is the damage that has been done by the Bay movies.
Bingo. And this statement applies to established characters. As far as Autobots go, we have Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. You could introduce more G1 characters (though we've already lost major ones in Ratchet and Ironhide) but they're not as well established, not as well known.
Same with the Decepticons. We've lost Megatron, Soundwave, Shockwave and Starscream. Who does that leave then?
If they want to expand the universe, they've got a big job ahead of them in building up characters.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:In my mind, the problem is the damage that has been done by the Bay movies.
Bingo. And this statement applies to established characters. As far as Autobots go, we have Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. You could introduce more G1 characters (though we've already lost major ones in Ratchet and Ironhide) but they're not as well established, not as well known.
Same with the Decepticons. We've lost Megatron, Soundwave, Shockwave and Starscream. Who does that leave then?
If they want to expand the universe, they've got a big job ahead of them in building up characters.
It may be an impossible job. I think it's he best thing they can do is wait a few years and start over with a reboot.
UltraPrimal wrote:I'll kill myself if they do a Beast Wars movie. I'd rather die than see them mutilate BW the way they did G1.
Bonerking wrote:I for one would love to know why that guy that was dating Mark Wahlburg's daughter knew so much about the laws regarding boning teenagers. How about a film that shows his earlier years touring the various States in order of lowest age of consent.
SlyTF1 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:In my mind, the problem is the damage that has been done by the Bay movies.
Bingo. And this statement applies to established characters. As far as Autobots go, we have Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. You could introduce more G1 characters (though we've already lost major ones in Ratchet and Ironhide) but they're not as well established, not as well known.
Same with the Decepticons. We've lost Megatron, Soundwave, Shockwave and Starscream. Who does that leave then?
If they want to expand the universe, they've got a big job ahead of them in building up characters.
It may be an impossible job. I think it's he best thing they can do is wait a few years and start over with a reboot.
There are plenty of ways I can see them making those dead characters relevant again, without restarting everything. Look at IDW. There aren't many characters who actually stay dead in those comics. There's always some convoluted way to bring them back. The fact that Optimus is going up against the Creators along with the fact that Lockdown still had Ratchet's spark opens up possibilities. I wouldn't be surprised if the Creators have hundreds of clones of every Cybertronian ever born.
I don't understand. A crossover between what and what? Prime and the movies? If so, wouldn't that be a bit redundant with how similar they are?KREOFAN85 wrote:...i know many will disagree but![]()
i need a cross over between the two. be it animated or live action...it needs to happen. dont care what people think of me. i have a dream and i will continue to hope. i mean, fer crap sakes, uncle grandpa is doing a crossover with steven universe! give me my mlp/tf crossover.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I don't understand. A crossover between what and what? Prime and the movies? If so, wouldn't that be a bit redundant with how similar they are?KREOFAN85 wrote:...i know many will disagree but![]()
i need a cross over between the two. be it animated or live action...it needs to happen. dont care what people think of me. i have a dream and i will continue to hope. i mean, fer crap sakes, uncle grandpa is doing a crossover with steven universe! give me my mlp/tf crossover.
Plus, there kinda was a half-crossover, of sorts, between Aligned and a version of the movies in the Rise of the Dark Spark game. Even had a version of G1 in there for a little bit.
Daggonit, Princess Celestia blended in with the background.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I don't understand. A crossover between what and what? Prime and the movies? If so, wouldn't that be a bit redundant with how similar they are?KREOFAN85 wrote:...i know many will disagree but![]()
i need a cross over between the two. be it animated or live action...it needs to happen. dont care what people think of me. i have a dream and i will continue to hope. i mean, fer crap sakes, uncle grandpa is doing a crossover with steven universe! give me my mlp/tf crossover.
Plus, there kinda was a half-crossover, of sorts, between Aligned and a version of the movies in the Rise of the Dark Spark game. Even had a version of G1 in there for a little bit.
Clearly, Transformers and My Little Pony.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
KREOFAN85 wrote:...i know many will disagree but![]()
i need a cross over between the two. be it animated or live action.. i mean, fer crap sakes, uncle grandpa is doing a crossover with steven universe! give me my mlp/tf crossover.
JazZeke wrote:And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
Jeen0808 wrote:JazZeke wrote:And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
Hoping that one of the sequels or spin-offs is a crossover with ponies? Don't see a difference between this and hoping for a G.I. Joe crossover.
RhA wrote:Target audiences.
Jeen0808 wrote:RhA wrote:Target audiences.
Hoping is for all ages.
RhA wrote:Jeen0808 wrote:RhA wrote:Target audiences.
Hoping is for all ages.
Irrelevant. You asked what the difference was. Ponies: Little girls, TF: Little boys.
You'd be surprised what the people behind the films think is appropriate for children.Jeen0808 wrote:RhA wrote:Jeen0808 wrote:RhA wrote:Target audiences.
Hoping is for all ages.
Irrelevant. You asked what the difference was. Ponies: Little girls, TF: Little boys.
Yet both are enjoyed by adults of all genders. Also, I don't think the target audience for the live action movies is little boys. They'd be a lot more like Animated or the current Robots in Disguise, were that the case.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Jeen0808 wrote:RhA wrote:Jeen0808 wrote:RhA wrote:Target audiences.
Hoping is for all ages.
Irrelevant. You asked what the difference was. Ponies: Little girls, TF: Little boys.
Yet both are enjoyed by adults of all genders. Also, I don't think the target audience for the live action movies is little boys. They'd be a lot more like Animated or the current Robots in Disguise, were that the case.
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