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[SlyTF1]

The fact that he calls Optimus "Sensei" is presumption enough.

Of which point? (I made several)

That Optimus was somewhat of an academic teacher to Drift. I mean, he was originally homeless in the IDW comics, which probably meant he didn't have much of an education. And I'm sure the Decepticons wouldn't take any time out of their conquest to teach him any linguistics or anything of the sort. And I know the movie universe is different, but no one ever said Drift's story had to be any different from that. Until they can show us some of Drift's backstory that contradicts that idea, the notion that Optimus taught actually taught Drift academically is relevant. You can't dismiss it. And don't forget, Optimus was head of Cybertron's science division before the war, so he obviously knows something.

The thing that breaks up this whole idea of yours of Drift having been educated by Optimus is the sheer fact that they weren't even using the word in that context. They were using it in the stereotypical Hollywood way of saying "he's Japanese, he has a master, so we'll have him call his master 'Sensei' to further the stereotype!" It was not used in an educational student-teacher sense, it was used in a Samurai-based servant-master sense, which is the predominate sense that Western media has taken to adopt as being correct when it's always been wrong regardless.

The filmmakers were just going along with the widely known misnomer out of sheer ignorance, because that's what Hollywood does.

Would you have even considered the idea of Optimus being an educator to Drift had I not ever mentioned the movie's incorrect use of the word? If you say "yes", then you're just further trying to find excuses for bad writing by filling in the blanks yourself with information from external media and external concepts that are completely unrelated to the movie in question, which is completely ludicrous.

No, I wouldn't have considered it, because I wouldn't have cared. Just because you think the use of the word is based in ignorance doesn't mean that it is. And there's more than just one use for the word. The word can be used to refer to anyone with with a significant deal of experience, wisdom, or to simply show respect to someone in a position of authority. Even martial arts trainers and teachers.

Opt, and I almost forgot: the Transformers learned Earth's languages through the internet. They aren't taught it. What they read is what they know, and how they chose to structure their words is up to them. They aren't bound by the laws of a certain language structure. They say what they want. They don't have to give a damn if it's accurate or not. And neither do I.

[Stuartmaximus]

Some more info........http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/10/03/hasb ... ies-302304

[Va'al]

Currently taking place is the MIPJunior event, during which Hasbro has a presence in its Licensing and Entertainment department director Stephen Davis. During a keynote speech, embedded below for your viewing pleasure, Davis talked about the Akiva Goldsman-led writers' room at PAramount, and confirmed not only the fifth live-action movie but a whole series of pitches until at least 2025 (as a plan) - with a sixth, seventh and eighth chapter in the works too!

Brief mention for the other screen Transformers presence, Robots in Disguise, which is definitely a tweaked continuation of Transformers: Prime, at least from the corporate side of things. Information starts around the 10.30 minute mark- check it out.

Stephen J. Davis will discuss how the world famous toy company has transformed itself into a 360º entertainment provider, extending its brands across a range of experiences including film, TV, digital, music, licensing, theme parks and live events.
Stephen J. Davis is responsible for Hasbro's Entertainment and Licensing segment, including developing, producing and distributing Hasbro content globally across all platforms through Hasbro Studios as well as oversight of the company's licensing business.

Moderator:
Anna Carugati, Group Editorial Director, World Screen, USA

[Stuartmaximus]

I must be invisible on here or something! coz didn't I just post a link to something that pertains similar information to the post above?

Just typical! you do your best to provide info(& on rarest occasion first! at least where this website is concerned! & YES! I did check the news section before i posted that link!) pertaining to the threads topic! & recognition for it gets swept under the proverbial carpet! seems a tad counter productive when the same website WELCOMES such said information FROM it's registered users(or in this case.....user).

so the moral of this is.....If your name is anything but Stuartmaximus! you'll probably receive due recognition when providing information first(which is rare I know).

[Primecreator]

I'm okay with this unless if Micheal Bay is involved in directing, writing, and etc (which he probably is involved ). So are these new movies going to be a reboot of the transformers movies (basically ignoring everything from the Bay movies and starting over?) or are they just continuing the Bayformers movies? Because to me it would be a much wiser choice to start over instead of continuing Bays franchise.

[Seibertron]

I must be invisible on here or something! coz didn't I just post a link to something that pertains similar information to the post above?

Just typical! you do your best to provide info(& on rarest occasion first! at least where this website is concerned! & YES! I did check the news section before i posted that link!) pertaining to the threads topic! & recognition for it gets swept under the proverbial carpet! seems a tad counter productive when the same website WELCOMES such said information FROM it's registered users(or in this case.....user).

so the moral of this is.....If your name is anything but Stuartmaximus! you'll probably receive due recognition when providing information first(which is rare I know).

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[Va'al]

In addition to Seibertron's comment, I was writing that story before your comment showed up, and the internet slowed down as I was posting to the actual front page. There are three minutes' difference between our posts, I'm sorry I missed it.

[Stuartmaximus]

I must be invisible on here or something! coz didn't I just post a link to something that pertains similar information to the post above?

Just typical! you do your best to provide info(& on rarest occasion first! at least where this website is concerned! & YES! I did check the news section before i posted that link!) pertaining to the threads topic! & recognition for it gets swept under the proverbial carpet! seems a tad counter productive when the same website WELCOMES such said information FROM it's registered users(or in this case.....user).

so the moral of this is.....If your name is anything but Stuartmaximus! you'll probably receive due recognition when providing information first(which is rare I know).

Hi Stuartmaximus! Sorry we overlooked your contribution. It works best if you can submit news to us via our contact form at http://www.seibertron.com/contact/index ... bject=news so that we don't over look your post in the future. Just something so that we can get a heads up in our email inboxes instead.

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Ok, many many thanks Seibertron, Erm by what email do you have me under?(please respond in pm) coz I thought it was the same one as the day I registered

[Seibertron]

In addition to Seibertron's comment, I was writing that story before your comment showed up, and the internet slowed down as I was posting to the actual front page. There are three minutes' difference between our posts, I'm sorry I missed it.

Not to mention that you actually wrote up a news story which would have taken longer than those 3 minutes. Hopefully stuartmaximus will use our contact form in the future.

[Stuartmaximus]

In addition to Seibertron's comment, I was writing that story before your comment showed up, and the internet slowed down as I was posting to the actual front page. There are three minutes' difference between our posts, I'm sorry I missed it.

Not to mention that you actually wrote up a news story which would have taken longer than those 3 minutes. Hopefully stuartmaximus will use our contact form in the future.

Ok, fair point

[griftimus prime]

not even remotely interested in these movies anymore. just show me the toys.

[Evil Eye]

Awesome! More Transformers movies is always good. I just hope the inevitable toylines are more like ROTF and less like AOE.

[Stuartmaximus]

not even remotely interested in these movies anymore. just show me the toys.

Difficult pal! As the movies haven't even gone into production yet(well....I don't think 5 has? it might be! correct me if i'm wrong) + the toys wouldn't even be in the design stage yet.

[Stuartmaximus]

In addition to Seibertron's comment, I was writing that story before your comment showed up, and the internet slowed down as I was posting to the actual front page. There are three minutes' difference between our posts, I'm sorry I missed it.

Just one teeny tiny final thing! then I'll leave it alone

If I hadn't brought this oversight to public attention......there's always the probability that it MAY(not definite) have gone unnoticed!

& had that been the case.....then my rant could well have been justified!

But I guess we'll never know now.....will we

[Va'al]

In addition to Seibertron's comment, I was writing that story before your comment showed up, and the internet slowed down as I was posting to the actual front page. There are three minutes' difference between our posts, I'm sorry I missed it.

Just one teeny tiny final thing! then I'll leave it alone

If I hadn't brought this oversight to public attention......there's always the probability that it MAY(not definite) have gone unnoticed!

& had that been the case.....then my rant could well have been justified!

But I guess we'll never know now.....will we

We always endeavour to credit our users where we can, and several times people have not received due credit because of situations like this one. There are a handful of us and thousands of board members. Accidents and slips happen.

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[Carnivius_Prime]

Good. My main interest in Transformers is the movies and the toylines based on them so I've been a bit bored since the AoE toyline passed (though I still need to get me Hound and Galvatron since the only shops that did proper Transformers, rather than the simplistic baby stuff, in this country didn't bother getting them in)

[Stuartmaximus]

Good. My main interest in Transformers is the movies and the toylines based on them so I've been a bit bored since the AoE toyline passed (though I still need to get me Hound and Galvatron since the only shops that did proper Transformers, rather than the simplistic baby stuff, in this country didn't bother getting them in)

Well....The Entertainer have Voy Galvatron & Hound in

[Autobot N]

Good. My main interest in Transformers is the movies and the toylines based on them so I've been a bit bored since the AoE toyline passed (though I still need to get me Hound and Galvatron since the only shops that did proper Transformers, rather than the simplistic baby stuff, in this country didn't bother getting them in)

Trust me. You don't want Galvatron.

[Autobot032]

Like I was saying on Facebook, if there are 3 year gaps between movies, I'll be old and gray by the time these come out.

They need to step up their game and move this along faster, I don't have the patience for it and I'm sure many of us here don't either.

Even 2 years per movie is a bit much, considering there are FOUR more coming. They need to have them overlap so there's 1-2 per year like Marvel does. That would work.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Prime series movie on the big screen. Heck, I bet you could add extended footage into the pilot mini-series, package it as a feature film and it would do well.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I'm kinda wanting to draw a movie style Leo Convoy. I would love to see him on the big screen. In fact, I would MUCH RATHER have the badassness of Leo Convoy on the big screen, rather than Optimus Primal. I don't like Prime as an ape.

[Burn]

Like I was saying on Facebook, if there are 3 year gaps between movies, I'll be old and gray by the time these come out.

They need to step up their game and move this along faster, I don't have the patience for it and I'm sure many of us here don't either.

Even 2 years per movie is a bit much, considering there are FOUR more coming. They need to have them overlap so there's 1-2 per year like Marvel does. That would work.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Prime series movie on the big screen. Heck, I bet you could add extended footage into the pilot mini-series, package it as a feature film and it would do well.

Nope, gotta disagree. I think the gaps are fine.

Trying to do it Marvel style would require expanding the universe, I know they'd like to do it, but I don't think they're willing to take the chance. As it is, there are directors coming out saying superhero movies are done for, casual viewers themselves are finding it harder and harder to keep up because the MCU is growing so large and remembering how it's all tied together is getting more difficult.

They need to do something different for Transformers. They're in a position where they can do something different from Marvel. Have your core movies, but branch it off. Develop a cartoon that ties into it, comic books that connect into it, mobile apps that connect into it. They could leverage so so very much if they wanted to.

But the problem with that, centres around what to do with the toy line? Do they have the main toy line centre around the movie universe? Or do they only do that in the year the movie hits cinema and have it as a backup line in the off years?

They're going to end up trying to juggle too much.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Good. My main interest in Transformers is the movies and the toylines based on them so I've been a bit bored since the AoE toyline passed (though I still need to get me Hound and Galvatron since the only shops that did proper Transformers, rather than the simplistic baby stuff, in this country didn't bother getting them in)

Trust me. You don't want Galvatron.

I disagree. I love Galvatron. Yes, he is an entire shellformer, but the shell is very cool and unique, and he has lots of molded details. Plus he's fun to play with since Transformation is just 20 seconds

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm kinda wanting to draw a movie style Leo Convoy. I would love to see him on the big screen. In fact, I would MUCH RATHER have the badassness of Leo Convoy on the big screen, rather than Optimus Primal. I don't like Prime as an ape.

I disagree. Optimus Primal is a really cool character and one that while he looks like and takes his name from Prime, is not Prime at all. He's young, inexperienced, and only the leader of a ship, not the whole nation. Plus the ape look is really cool and he gets some cool looks out of it too

[SlyTF1]

A dream come true. If only I had the words to express how excited I am.

[JazZeke]

I'm kinda wanting to draw a movie style Leo Convoy. I would love to see him on the big screen. In fact, I would MUCH RATHER have the badassness of Leo Convoy on the big screen, rather than Optimus Primal. I don't like Prime as an ape.

I disagree. Optimus Primal is a really cool character and one that while he looks like and takes his name from Prime, is not Prime at all. He's young, inexperienced, and only the leader of a ship, not the whole nation. Plus the ape look is really cool and he gets some cool looks out of it too

True, but you have to admit, Leo Convoy just looks so much more dynamic than Primal. I'm not saying he's a better character since I've never seen the Japanese Beast Wars cartoons and it's hard to top Primal, but I've always loved his design.