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News Credits: 4504 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:23 pm

I know you guys are having a good laugh with all this and thats the best way to go about it. But for some reason I cant muster a laugh or a smile, I am just starving to know what is going on. In the time since I started collected, this is by far the most nonsensical thing I have ever seen. It almost rivals my first thoughts when I saw BWN Moon.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:27 pm

Wasn't there an interview in one of the Twincast Podcast episodes with a Hasbro employee who hinted at a possible reason for why these two have wacky colors instead of normal colors? I can't quite recall which episode it was, if there was a reason given, or what that reason might have been, but it's a nagging thought in the back of my head.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:31 pm

william-james88 wrote:It almost rivals my first thoughts when I saw BWN Moon.

What's this?

As I always say, if you don't understand something, mock it!

(I never say that. that would be rude.)

News Credits: 4504 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:45 pm

Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:It almost rivals my first thoughts when I saw BWN Moon.
What's this?

As I always say, if you don't understand something, mock it!

This is Moon. The most ridiculous official Transforming TF toy I have ever seen. But these two are giving it some competition.

Transformers Beast Wars II Moon Gallery

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:53 pm

That I can understand. At least it had a cartoon to back it up.
AT and BW are just the musings of a mad person.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:This is Moon. The most ridiculous official Transforming TF toy I have ever seen.

And yet, he has a whole world inside of him, which was enough to turn the figure around for me and justify my owning it.

News Credits: 4504 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:01 pm

Did someone post the idea that the Astrotrain colours are based off of Mach Tackle from victory. We said elsewhere that there were very few transforming shuttles out there so an homage from another takara line wouldnt be that much of a stretch.

Or he could just be homaging Lego Ice Planet

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:05 pm

william-james88 wrote:Did someone post the idea that the Astrotrain colours are based off of Mach Tackle from victory. We said elsewhere that there were very few transforming shuttles out there so an homage from another takara line wouldnt be that much of a stretch.

I thought they looked familiar, but I couldn't place the orange and blue. Now that's thinking outside the box.

Or he could just be homaging Lego Ice Planet

And I have some of those sets!

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:07 pm

Well, Will, I would buy that! For sure.
Especially if Blitzwing is an homage to Flywheels. Does that guy have the same combining gimmick?

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:11 pm

Cobotron wrote:Well, Will, I would buy that! For sure.
Especially if Blitzwing is an homage to Flywheels. Does that guy have the same combining gimmick?

Machtackle is really two separate Micromasters named Mach and Tackle who, while having their own individual vehicle and robot modes each, combine Energon Autobot style to form Machtackle (or Tacklemach, depending on who form the toy and who forms the pants).

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:13 pm

Cobotron wrote:Well, Will, I would buy that! For sure.
Especially if Blitzwing is an homage to Flywheels. Does that guy have the same combining gimmick?

Yes and no. MachTackle is part of the MultiForce from Victory, and can be considered a forerunner of the Energon Powerlinx figures. Mach and Tackle each have a Vehicle Mode and Robot Mode, and can from the top or bottom of a combined form.
Flywheels is a Duocon, which means he splits into two different vehicles, without individual Robot Modes. He has a spring-loaded transformation which is triggered when the jet is attached to the tank.

In the cartoons they do function the same way, as the MultiForce members are almost always shown combined in pairs. There is one instance in which a pair is shown in separated robot modes, and even switch places when they recombined.

News Credits: 4504 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:16 pm

Cobotron wrote:Well, Will, I would buy that! For sure.
Especially if Blitzwing is an homage to Flywheels. Does that guy have the same combining gimmick?

The robot from Victory (with all the wild colors) is indeed formed by combining the two smaller vehicles. The only diference between him and flywheels is that Mach Tackle's two alt modes (the truck and the shuttle) do turn into individual robots. But still, the fact that both triple changers are representing two sperate alt modes that do combine to form a robot that is a combination of the two would make sense, expecially since the colors are very similar.

So guys, you think we solved it?

PS: Does this show how obessesd I have been?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:22 pm

william-james88 wrote:So guys, you think we solved it?

At the very least, we have a strong possibility of an homage, but in colors only. Or a very happy accident. :lol:

PS: Does this show how obessesd I have been?

Nah...

News Credits: 4504 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:32 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:So guys, you think we solved it?

At the very least, we have a strong possibility of an homage, but in colors only.

But thats pretty much the same with the Blitzwing though.