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[quote="Absolute Zero"][quote="Jack Hallows"][quote="Absolute Zero"]Well, not every Autobot has access to Iacon, so dropping stuff in the general forum is a good way to get those bots into the event. It should be about maximum participation, not keeping things secret, which honestly, what is really a secret in this game? Hell, even Tammuz's number crunching was public at one point, and that was run entirely by cons.[/quote] that’s fine. we can just do what Psychout does, which is post a link on the main forum saying “Autobots, go here”, with no further explaination needed. bots that need access to Iacon can then ask for it. as for the secrecy, i don’t care personally. my main point, regardless of if it seems secretive or not, is that we don’t need cons holding our hands at every step of the way. we can do things for ourselves that are aimed directly and exclusively at jumpstarting Autobot activity. the cons don’t have that problem. we do. [quote]See, I disagree with that "entirely flexible opt-outable" thing, at least in the way you seem to be using it. If you schedule something, and don't get enough participation because something else is going on at the same time, then it's going to look like it failed, why do it again. Conversely, if you have to constantly cancel and reschedule stuff, you look unreliable so why would people sign up?[/quote] nah, it won’t look like it failed. especially if people say “hey this looks great, but due to time constraints, i can only participate in the Campaign for Cybertron, but next time this runs, i’m in.” that doesn’t seem too hard to do, especially since that’s what people are already doing with just regular playing. also, since we are the ones putting together these Autobot events, with every single one of us being able to participate in the planning and execution, i don’t think it would put people off if we have to reschedule one or two. it’s not like it’s just going to be one person doing all the work. we’re a faction. [quote]And Sprokitz was curious, as most people would be. It's a good thing. It sucks that he can't get involved as he is now a con, but that's not a bad thing that he was interested. I understand you have problems with the public, but, you know, not everyone does. The game is for fun, people should be encouraged to participate, and again, not every Autobot has access to Iacon. I didn't until recently.[/quote] i never said it was a bad thing for others to show interest. i lamented the fact that he can’t participate. it really does suck, because like i stated, he doesn’t participate in the events often. also, despite what you may have been briefed on by your mates in the rdd, i don’t have “problems with the public”. i had a problem with [i]one[/i] decepticon, which was manipulated into me having a problem with the [i]entire forum[/i] due to my unwillingness to “shut the **** up” about the fact that they were completely wrong for exploiting the game. i can’t really help it if people are offended by me being direct. i, for one, worked hard to get my team where it is, just like you did. so i’ll be damned if some players think they can come back after years away and act like they can do whatever they want simply because they have the ability to and the numbers on their side to back them up. if that makes me an outcast, i’m happy to be on the fringes. also note that i’m not here tryna pick a fight with you. so if anything you read in my response rubs you the wrong way, i apologize as that’s not my intention. i just want to ensure i do everything i can to help move us Autobots out of the shadow of the Decepticons and the RDD, and it seems like these inter-faction events are a great way to get us rolling in the way of establishing a self identity for Autobots that is separate and distinct from everyone else... a way to get people actually interested in being an Autobot. also note: when i say “Autobot” i’m including everyone who fights under the red insignia, regardless of what people personally identify as.[/quote] Not sure what part of "Not all Autobots have access to Iacon." you've failed to understand. I can't say how rampant the problem is now, but it was pretty common back in the day, and I didn't have Iacon access for -years-. I'm also not sure why you brought the exploit conversation up in here, but it's hardly an exploit. It never gave you an unfair advantage, and you have had at least one alt mode that was modified in the past, if not currently. It was basically the same as the alt hunt without having to do the hunting. You got nothing but a pretty picture, and anyone could do it. Again, it didn't give you an advantage at all. Hell, I -still- have out of class alt modes on a few characters. It gives me nothing but warm and fuzzy feelings to have a lion turn into a heavy repair vehicle. You had a problem with more than one. You picked a fight with one in that instance, but that's not even the only time. You got lucky you didn't get a ban. That could have easily been one, and might have been one if not for Burn being the mod. Regardless, that issue was settled, why are you bringing it up now? It was only mentioned because I didn't know what problem was, and someone linked the posts. It was resolved, it should be water under the bridge. Low participation is generally the sign of a failed run. Again, been here for a while, seen some fail. Saw one get shut down because the guy got upset that I tracked minicon kills back when they were a thing which was unrelated to the event he was running. It happens. Some times people don't like sharing the spot light and get upset. Granted, Psych and Sustain have always been cool about most things, so I don't see them getting butt hurt over it, but you also run the risk of burn out on events if you have to many. That's why they're spacing them out. I didn't work hard to set my team up. It's not hard work going for the lowest available upgrade. And those returning players worked hard, by your standard, to set their team up the way they wanted to as well, and they did it more than once since before you started, the game got reset to 0. It's how I managed to play for all 4 factions. Don't take the position that just because they took time away from the game means they didn't work hard to get there. I used to play this game 16hrs a day 7 days a week. Burn out happens and people have to take time off, or life happens and stuff comes up and they're not able to play as much. Don't take the stance that just because they took time away, you're some how better. PS. I'm lazy, so I don't feel like breaking things up to respond to smaller chunks.[/quote]
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