The Energon Pub

by **Dragonslayer** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:25 pm

ashe5k wrote:It's been my experience that they push generate, although with more activity in the game now I'm seeing more missions pop up that aren't always populated.

Same here. As for which missions get generated, I’m sure it’s all random. Doesn’t really matter to me though, I just throw my lot in as soon as I can.

Evolution Prime wrote:

by **Wingz** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:20 pm

You're so...beautiful :cry:

Psst...wanna join the challenge that started today? wascawy-wabbit-wants-one-week-war-with-wingz-t110520.php :KREMZEEK:

by **Evolution Prime** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 pm

by **Wingz** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:57 pm

ashe5k wrote:It's been my experience that they push generate, although with more activity in the game now I'm seeing more missions pop up that aren't always populated.

This is likely due to different levels the person has in their party. For example:

I have two LV 1 characters, two LV 2 characters, and one LV 4 character in my group. The mission that spawns could be a LV 1 (only), LV 1-2, LV 1-3, etc. There are a lot of options that could pop up. However, lets say I spawn a LV 2-4, join it with the LV 4, then spawn another LV 2-4. Well, if I don't want to put a LV 2 in there, I spawn others instead with the LV 1's. Other join those and spawn more, and that LV 2-4 could just waste away, unpopulated. That's what I've noticed anyway. Some go because of the level requirement and others due to alternatives with more xp or available backup. The increase in activity means more opportunities for things like this to happen. That's the only explanation I've seen anyway :lol:

I like the system. Consistent mission flow!

by **ashe5k** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:33 am

It's been my experience that they push generate, although with more activity in the game now I'm seeing more missions pop up that aren't always populated.

by **Burn** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:06 pm

Servant of Light wrote:I thought maybe they were random or even on a schedule.

One or the other, I can't remember. They do generate on their own though but if none are available to players then they will "push" generate.

by **S.o.L.** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:36 pm

If you're not aware, new missions will NOT generate unless the player deploying has no missions to choose from.

Thanks for this information. Can't believe I never understood how new missions appeared. I thought maybe they were random or even on a schedule. I thought the "added a new mission text" was just a glitch, since nothing is listed and I had to wait, now I finally know that if I get this message I can immediately go back to the mission page. :HEADHURTS:

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by **Jack Hallows** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:41 pm

i hope to not receive a warning for this, but if i do, i fully accept it.

however, the record needs to be set straight from all sides, especially since i’m being touted as the reason for all of this taking place.

i do recall informing Burn about the Bite tactic when i mentioned the sharkticon alts, but since it was a lengthy message, i can see how just the basics of my concerns were addressed. that being said, every accusation and insinuation i have ever made was backed up with objective proof, including screen captures and descriptions. this is indisputable.

i understand Burn has a lot on his plate with moderating duties across all the forums on the site, and therefore doesn’t have the time to thoroughly address and investigate every issue or question we have, but unfortunately Burn is among the only visibly active mods we have on this part of the forum, so our concerns do have to go through him.

we just have to stick to concerns that have a legitimate impact on gameplay.

just like everyone else, i’m here to play and have fun, which is why i make call out threads and try to rile up competition, and i DO NOT wish to hassle Burn or anyone else.

so, Burn, once again, I APOLOGIZE for causing you to address this issue in multiple threads.

here is the main reason for my response:
whatever garbage that happened during the AWC days, that WON’T be happening here, or at ALL on the Autobot side. i do NOT approve of cheating or exploiting game features to gain an advantage and will NOT cooperate with others who do.

rest assured, i, and my personal friends who play this game, will be abiding by the fair play doctrine. you have my word as a Marine and a long standing veteran of HMW.

from now on, any issues that are brought to me will be addressed publicly and sorted out in house, not in pm, so everyone can see every detail and conclusion and there are no misinterpretations on any front.

Wingz, i commend you on your drive and tenacity. this is exactly what we need in our new Autobot Commanders. now, we must continue translating all of this fire into battlefield ferocity :twisted:

to the others who have voiced their concerns, fear not. Burn may be stern (stern Burn :lol:

) but he is only an enemy in game missions, not on the boards. he is an administrator, which means he has access to all the forums, Autobot and Decepticon, and has no personal reason to favor one side over another. he is an impartial party in all of this, Decepticon allegiance be damned.

let’s chalk all of this up to the growing pains of a new Autobot army, and move on in our quest to combat the overwhelming threat of the Decepticons, the RDD and their dark science experiments!

thank you all for being here. sincerely.

by **Burn** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:06 pm

THIS.WAS.DEALT.WITH.

But fine, for anyone curious, this was my response. I don't want any replies, I don't want any pm's, I just want you guys to get on with your competition and have some fun!

Burn wrote:
Many of us RP in messages, like it's a real battlefield, so much of this is more or less a rallying cry. It's not really meant as anything more, to my knowledge
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For starters, you could do this out in public. I encourage it!

A lot of the more overly-dramatic things that are said are just this. "Harrassment" is one of these things. We're outnumbered, plain and simple, due to differences in player activity. I can't attest to others and how they feel, but "harrassment" to me is the same as saying "pinned down" or "held back". Their numbers do that. The call is not towards the 'Cons or complaining about their numbers so much as it is to encourage other Autobots to log on more often to fight back. I can see where you're coming from, though. I do mention being outnumbered and the lightsabers often enough, but again I'm stating facts. The way things are, we are at a natural disadvantage due to differences in player activity. It was all supposed to be for motivation and morale, not a continuous vomit of complaining it came off as. I thought it was in fun.

So far as manipulating the game, I don't recall saying this... When I say, "something feels off," or things to that effect, I also state that they either know something we don't or something has happened. In both cases, I'm referring to strategy. Someone is teaching them. I'm big into math and statistics. I've been keeping records of the fights, and the pattern changed. My response was to seek advice for defense from other players and to rummage through dead threads to find things that could help.

This all stems from a PM I received from Jack the other day. He said everything you posted. I encouraged him to make it public, he obviously instead chose to not do anything about it, now others are thinking along his lines so I wanted to set the record straight.

The only thing that I will admit has legitimately unsettled me has been the Sharkticons popping up. It'd be nice if we could get them on both sides, due to the ability.

You're the first person to mention the ability to me. When Jack raised the issue, he said nothing about it. I was not aware of the ability, I just wrote it off as it being just an alt.

I can't make them available to both sides.

I'm not sure what petty snipping you're referring to, but I can stop posting this stuff. I already knew that I wasn't very good at conveying my thoughts well. Bun-Bun and I had been talking in PM about starting a rivalry between he and I as a way of sparking interest in the game again. As far as I understand it, we'd like to see there be more activity so more events can happen. Possibly bring some life back into it. I have no real resentment towards anyone.

Again, Jack. His PM the other day was filled with accusations and insinuations. I addressed them and as he never replied I figured the issue was done.

You touched on a few things that he did, which to me meant that things weren't addressed, I again worked on the assumption he would deal with things privately. Apparently not.

So now I'm actually getting concerned about all these PM's floating back and forth along with all sorts of misinformation. It's the sort of garbage that went back on in the AWC days when certain Autobot players REALLY screwed the game over.

I don't believe that will happen this time, but I sure do get concerned.

Truth be told, I really wasn't trying to step on your toes. I like the way you handle things, from what I've seen, and I know you do your best to keep things going. I just haven't been around long enough to know what has been a problem before, and I got too comfortable posting. I should have approached things differently or let someone else do it. Sorry, Burn.

Mate, apology is not necessary. Like I said, I didn't feel you were stepping on toes. I just wanted to put to rest certain beliefs that Decepticons have advantages over Autobots.

Like I said, I encourage the smack talk, but if people have concerns that someone is screwing an exploit in the game, don't discuss it amongst yourselves, bring it to the public forum and deal with it there.

by **Wingz** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:21 pm

Although this was addressed in a PM with Burn, I'd like to be transparent about my intentions so that everyone knows what I mean. The last thing I want is a misunderstanding, which is very easy to have over text-based communication.

As nerdy as this sounds, many of us here RP in messages, like it's a real battlefield. Much of my banter here is more or less a rallying cry. It's not really meant as anything more, to my knowledge. A lot of the more overly-dramatic things that are said are just this - my attempt at putting little bits of RP into rallying Autobot forces.

"Harrassment" is one of these things. We're outnumbered, plain and simple, due to differences in player activity. I can't attest to others and how they feel, but "harrassment" to me is the same as saying "pinned down" or "held back". Their numbers do that. The call is not towards the 'Cons or complaining about their numbers so much as it is to encourage other Autobots to log on more often to fight back. I can see where Burn is coming from, though. I do mention being outnumbered and the lightsabers often enough, but again I'm stating facts. The way things are, we are at a natural disadvantage due to differences in player activity. This was all supposed to be for motivation and morale, not the continuous vomit of complaining it could be construed as. It was in fun.

So far as manipulating the game, I feel I should clarify my wording for everyone... When I say, "something feels off," or things to that effect, I also state that they either know something we don't or something has happened. In both cases, I'm referring to strategy. Someone is teaching them. I'm big into math and statistics. I've been keeping records of the fights, and the pattern changed. My response was to seek advice for defense from other players and to rummage through dead threads to find things that could help.

The only thing that I will admit has legitimately unsettled me has been the Sharkticons popping up. It'd be nice if we could get them on both sides, due to the ability, but I hold no animosity towards anyone who has them. The answers I’m finding for what they actually do is conflicting, so I may do some statistical testing based on the proposed algorithm for ram to see if one theory holds true, out of pure curiosity. Now I just need to capture a ‘Con alive. :WHISTLE:

(All of which is also subject to moderator approval, as I'm unsure if this would be frowned upon, even after referring back to the rules)

While I’m unsure what has come off as petty sniping, it was in no way intended. For transparency, Bun-Bun and I have been talking in PM about starting a rivalry between he and I as a way of sparking interest in the game again. As far as I understand it, we'd like to see there be more activity so more events can happen. Possibly bring some life back into it on both sides. I have no real resentment towards anyone. The rallying I’ve been doing is to this end.

I haven't been around long enough to know what has been a problem before, and I got very carried away in this effort. I should have approached things differently or tried to be more clear. No stress was intended.

With this said, I would like to continue the rallying! This challenge begins tomorrow, and we need all the forces we can get! In order to participate in this challenge with Bunarino, you need to sign up in the challenge thread! As the first event to take place in what I can only assume a VERY long time, this is pretty exciting! Keep in mind, this is a reminder simply that kills will not count if you don't sign up and is in no way asking anyone to sign on or deploy more often

Autobots of all levels! Sign up and lets do this! :twisted:

Challenge begins at sunrise on his first deployment, to be stated when this happens! Are you with me? :WRECKERS:

by **Burn** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm

Time to set things straight ... again.

Wingz wrote:If we can get past their harassment in the lower levels

I'm tired of seeing this. I've seen similar complaints from a few other Autobot players.

For starters, prove that it's harassment.

If you're not aware, new missions will NOT generate unless the player deploying has no missions to choose from. Once they go to the mission screen they are presented with missions that are open to them, they have no choice but to join them.

Is that harassment when you have no choice but to join a mission? No, it's not.

Unless someone can prove otherwise, I put it down to people simply logging in at random.

Now I'm going to rant. Smack talk is encouraged in the HMW forums (within the rules of the forum of course), but I've grown tired of this petty snipping that's going on. Unless you have concrete evidence that a player (regardless of what side) is manipulating the game, just stick to the smack talk.

I'm one guy running the show here, I have commitments to the rest of the forums, not to mention my own life. I DO NOT need to be dealing with petty false accusations.

by **Wrecking Poof** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:17 pm

Sorry I didn't even think about simply posting the names here lol. However I don't know how to figure out who has high level teams and who does not because these names come from everywhere even hell matches. I did remove the few I know about though. Hope this helps. ;)^

Evolution Prime
Blastback
Cromulonjudge11
funkolad150
Optimystix
atinger
Kurn96
ashe5k
victori
LightOf2004
Servant of Light
Pathogen7
Psycho Warrior
Undead Waffles
Dragonslayer

by **Wingz** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:11 am

steve2275 wrote:leveling thru hell you go
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=464567

Wouldn't have it any other way :twisted:

Though they're titled "Hell" Missions, it's ironically a bigger hell to go through the at-level missions right now. I need to wait for reinforcements before I venture that way. They're all traps! [-(

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=464582

Darn, no breakthrough! :lol:

by **steve2275** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 am

leveling thru hell you go
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=464567

by **Wingz** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:19 am

steve2275 wrote:https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/team_view.php?id=1138
im anything but lovely
and im here when im here

Don't lie, Steve! You're a perfect flower

And you're here pretty often, anyway

So far, it doesn't look like there is much interest to coordinate from the higher ranks, which I understand and can appreciate. I was mainly just looking to see what times everyone is normally on so that I could coordinate those with the lower level commanders. We might not be around when a lot of the bigger guns are available to back us up. It was a way to rectify that by knowing when everyone is typically around so I could share that information with the lower level commanders. However, most responses have been the same as yours, so I'll need to help coordinate an effort in other ways.

@ Vitatech: You're a real hero ;)^

We're mainly in the level 1-3 range right now. Commanders Dragonslayer and Ashe5k are in the mid-levels, just low enough to support us lower levels. What times are you normally around for Hell Missions, if I may ask (if around any specific time)?

@ Wrecking Poof: Thank you! I'll keep checking periodically to see if you've noticed anyone new! Thank you for the heads up

by **Wrecking Poof** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:11 am

On my team page I listed all of the team leaders who I have seen helping in matches since the new year.

by **steve2275** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:51 am

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... hp?id=1138
im anything but lovely
and im here when im here

by **Wingz** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:41 pm

Thank you, Ashe! Yea, I've garnered a lot of hate from the 'Con side due to my repairers :lol:

The more the better! Not only does it keep our forces rolling despite being outnumbered, it also tops off the higher leveled players to help them deploy faster

Win-Win, if you ask me!

Who else wants to even the score? :twisted:

I'm talking to you, too, my fellow younger commanders! I'm hoping this is something that will help all of us level and even the score, despite all our disadvantages!

by **ashe5k** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:16 pm

I'm generally on during the week popping my bots into missions between 8:30 AM and 4:30 PM. Weekends are spotty at best for me play wise.

I've currently got

1 level 3 (QuBits)
8 level 4 (Rexlock, Nebulous, Overdrive, Highrise, Sentinel 613, Winchester, Celenium, Rocker)
2 level 5 (Korona, Caretaker)
1 level 6 (Neo Convoy)

So I can toss in back ups easy on the 1-11 missions and the 2 - 4, and 3 - 4 missions. 1-3 missions are a bit harder as my bots have leveled passed that point.

All of my bots are split skills but all of them have repair to try and keep everyone up and out of stasis lock.

Also, if any bot needs some energon I'm sitting on €1,504,987 that I'd be happy to spread the wealth a bit with.

by **Wingz** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:55 pm

Attention Autobot commanders of all levels!

If you would like to take part in an organized effort to help our lower level commanders succeed, I'm prepared to create a spreadsheet of times that everyone is comfortable to deploy. We can strengthen our numbers by knowing when backup will be available.

To the more experienced commanders: This is your chance to even up the numbers! There are quite a few young Autobot commanders that are itching to get up to level 11 to join you! Our problem is being outmatched 3:1 in numbers most days. They have quite a few more black and green lightsabers than we do PLUS 3 commanders with Sharkticons that can eat armor, negating some defense against the lightsabers. Our best avenue for xp has been the Hell missions, so I feel that aiming to win those should be our focus for success. This is how my dolphin and gadget got their head start, so I feel that any lucky breakthroughs with the other commanders would mean better odds overall.

Newer Autobot Commanders that I know of:

Wrecking Poof
Servant of Light
Pathogen 7
Wingz (yours truly)

There were three others in the 0 missions, but based on frequency of logging in, I imagine 2 of them have stopped trying. The other (Commander Blastback), I plan to message in private. If need be, I'll reset a few of my forces to help in the zero missions, should he/she be willing to continue the fight.

Thank you for all of the help you've provided thus far! If we can get past their harassment in the lower levels, we can team up with you in the higher levels! If you're interested in coordinating strikes on Hell Missions, post the times you're normally comfortable to deploy here, and I'll see what lines up or find a way to coordinate the younger forces with you.

Thank you!