The Energon Pub

by **sumowrestler** » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:00 pm

I've let a couple of you know this but for anyone who wants to jump in the Last Mech Standing, feel free to. All you have to do is post mission links which started after the starting mission. Who knows, you might already have ten qualifying missiosn already which would get you the bonus energon.

by **Absolute Zero** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:27 am

Hey Sumo, do you still need energon donations for prizes?

by **Jack Hallows** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:57 am

Absolute Zero wrote:I can see this issue still bothers you greatly.

like i said, the alt issue doesn’t bother me, it only serves as an explanation as to why things began how they did. if you wish to believe otherwise, that’s on you, but going forth just know you’d be wrong.

but just because i’m not bothered, doesn’t mean that i’m not aware of the the fact that even right now, quite a long while after the resolution of the issue, one of your mates still refuses to let it die and constantly attempts to harass me and/or people i have brought to this game. this is indisputable.

do you think making bots representing male reproductive organs and then placing them in missions with players you KNOW are female is acceptable behavior?

do you think making trolling transformers of your enemies, complete with derogatory bios, after an issue is supposedly resolved, is “dropping the issue and letting it die”?

do you think it’s ok to harass people in their private messages?

i ask you these three questions because these are things that people are bothered about, and none of these actions were committed by Autobots, yet they all took place after the issue was supposedly “dropped.”

Here's a question, if people don't have access to Iacon, and don't know things are planned in it, how are they going to know to ask for access to it?

literally every post Psychout or Sustain makes regarding the event says “and talk to people about access to your private forums!”... at this point, people who don’t have access, but are part of the posting community, are actively avoiding gaining access.

you had access to Darkmount for years which is probably why you didn’t have access to Iacon. it’s not hard to know where to go if you’re on the forums, though. stop making excuses for people AZ.

Why is Hallowjack sitting on so much XP?

HallowJack isn’t my highest level bot, and never was; so your “are you afraid” question has no legs to stand on. there’s nothing to be afraid of.

i stopped leveling HallowJack at 7 for a specific reason that is all my own. furthermore, HallowJack has 67 upgrades, just like every other level 7 that’s maxed for upgrades; which is completely legal, even if some of you cons take some sort of moral issue with it. i could understand if a mech automatically leveled up after attaining a certain amount of xp, and i was using some sort of loop to keep HJ as a 7, but i’m not. i’m simply not upgrading him; which, once again, is completely within the rules.

lastly, take note that you got these responses from me due to the fact that you tried to make it seem like i’m only in support of Autobots creating our own self identity because of some negative events that took place outside of Iacon, as if the two are related. they’re not. even if none of the issues came about between me and others, i would still have the stance that Autobots need to pop the Decepticon umbilical out of our chassis so we can grow up as a faction.

by **Absolute Zero** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:09 am

tl;dr

I can see this issue still bothers you greatly. But honestly, you had been asked to not bring it up public, then jumped and lashed out on someone in public. Did you really think no one was going to care? Better people have been banned for less. I've gotten warnings for less from Psychout of all people, and that was something I was discussing via PM with him. You could have taken the high road, you didn't. Was the alt hunt even going on at that point? Psychout and Sustain weren't mods as near as I can tell, which meant only Burn was, and Burn mods a lot of forums and doesn't have time for a lot here. Did those alts cause any harm to the game? No. Doesn't seem like it, as no one was banned. Did it give them an unfair advantage? Again, no, it doesn't seem like it as no one was banned. And given that I actually know how alt modes work in this game, I know that the pictures mean jack shyte. Thing two about it, how many active people were there even? It's hard to actually hunt an alt if there's no one on. Granted, with the current activity, it'd be pretty easy, but the last I played before recently, there was like, Burn as the only active con. Basically, who cares? Besides you. It didn't hurt anyone, and it made people happy and interested in playing again. Why is that a problem? I honestly would have done the same. I've seen some **** things and blatant cheating in the game, like mods giving themselves XP and cheating tournament results and mission hazards that only target one faction. Honestly, this alt mode exploit wouldn't even rank in the top 20 worst things to happen to HMW. I don't honestly care.

Here's a question, if people don't have access to Iacon, and don't know things are planned in it, how are they going to know to ask for access to it? Now, I'm not saying everything needs to be discussed in public. But putting up a main forum post about 'Hey, we're doing this. Check out the thread in Iacon" and then bumping it to keep it a top post is all you need to do. And as for discussing it with other people to make sure no toes are stepped on isn't hard either. Look at the hunts that were just run. Both factions kept their target list hidden, but both also knew the others were doing something. It's a game about giant robots with worse dice rolls than my typical DnD session. The main thing about the game is the forum and the comradery and banter back and forth across factions. It's what makes HMW tick. It's why the game suffers when there isn't enough activity in the forums.

Now, this is something that always iritates me. Why is Hallowjack sitting on so much XP? Are you afraid of giving XP to the Cons? To your fellow bots? There are a lot of healers in the game that could use higher level bots to heal and get more xp, and it's literally doing nothing for you to sit on it. Wingz and Steve and others could benefit from a higher level Hallowjack in missions giving their healers more XP so they can level up faster and become stronger. You want stronger allies? It starts with you. Even if you generate more XP for the cons, they will level up too, and intern generate more XP for your fellow bots, as well as for you. It''s just selfish.

Anyway, that's all I'm saying on these topics. We derailed Sumo's thread enough, and I missed a response from someone else. Given my history of derailing threads, this is saying something. Anyway, sorry for derailing this Sumo. I promise my next post will be constructive to the topic at hand. Sometimes it's like the Death Star run, just gotta stay on target and ignore Vader on your six.

by **Jack Hallows** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:18 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:Not sure what part of "Not all Autobots have access to Iacon." you've failed to understand. I can't say how rampant the problem is now, but it was pretty common back in the day, and I didn't have Iacon access for -years-.

you do realize it’s been much easier to gain access to Iacon (and Darkmount) in these past couple of months than it ever has, right? It’s literally easy as asking a question, either privately or publicly. the rest is up to the moderator. don’t make it seem like you’ve gotta do something extravagant lol. the only people who should be worried are those who have multiple accounts.

I'm also not sure why you brought the exploit conversation up in here, but it's hardly an exploit.

why would you bring up me having problems with the public? that’s the only subject i’ve had open confrontations with the cons over. also, it’s an exploit. i’ll take Seibertron’s word over yours.

It never gave you an unfair advantage, and you have had at least one alt mode that was modified in the past, if not currently. It was basically the same as the alt hunt without having to do the hunting. You got nothing but a pretty picture, and anyone could do it. Again, it didn't give you an advantage at all. Hell, I -still- have out of class alt modes on a few characters. It gives me nothing but warm and fuzzy feelings to have a lion turn into a heavy repair vehicle.

that’s the entire point. back when we wanted to change our alt modes, we went to the forum mods, they gave us objectives, we fulfilled them, and we got the alt mode we wanted. it was awesome and a system that really made the game worth playing. it’s indisputable that this notion interests players even to this day.

if it was as simple as utilizing links that allow someone to not only bypass the games’ regular alt mode rotation, but also paste any picture they wanted over any tactic they chose to, then that makes everything we did obsolete and destroys an aspect of HMW that was arguably one of the best parts.

i’ll fight a mutha flxxa.. it’s no doubt the alt hunts would be a hot prospect to bring back.

You had a problem with more than one. You picked a fight with one in that instance, but that's not even the only time.

you’d be wrong. i pick fights with Decepticons yes, but it’s always been in fun. just like it was back in 2011, i know you remember that. what happened here is different. what it is, is an issue i had with one Con that spread into issues with multiple due to them being friends and tagmates. that’s all there is to it.

You got lucky you didn't get a ban. That could have easily been one, and might have been one if not for Burn being the mod.

highly debatable.

Regardless, that issue was settled, why are you bringing it up now? It was only mentioned because I didn't know what problem was, and someone linked the posts. It was resolved, it should be water under the bridge.

for the record: i dropped the issue the instant Seibertron took care of the exploit. it was others who dragged it on and on and on... and STILL are. this is indisputable.

anyway, this didn’t even need to be brought up - you made a comment that needed clarification and i tried to provide that for you, though your feelings on the matter are noted.

And those returning players worked hard, by your standard, to set their team up the way they wanted to as well, and they did it more than once since before you started, the game got reset to 0.

a level 0 player scalping an Autobot alt through an exploit is not hard work man lol. don’t matter if they used to play or not. also, i’m a returning player as well. i was around when the minicons were here, wondering why something i spent so much energon on just disappeared after i got slayed in a fight. i was noob as hell, but always held HMW dear.

Don't take the position that just because they took time away from the game means they didn't work hard to get there. Don't take the stance that just because they took time away, you're some how better.

i want this to be absolutely clear: i don’t think i’m better than other players. my “stance” is thus: just because someone used to play, and their account got deleted in the crash, doesn’t give them the right to come back and start acting like they can do whatever they want simply because they’re allies with people who used to moderate HMW. that, in my opinion, is a sign of someone thinking they’re some how better than others. all i did was point it out, and that’s what began this narrative that somehow i’m a public menace.

you heard it here first, homie. i’m looking out for the game, and that is not part of it.

PS. I'm lazy, so I don't feel like breaking things up to respond to smaller chunks.

Lol it was concise no biggie.

by **Absolute Zero** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:34 pm

Jack Hallows wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:Well, not every Autobot has access to Iacon, so dropping stuff in the general forum is a good way to get those bots into the event. It should be about maximum participation, not keeping things secret, which honestly, what is really a secret in this game? Hell, even Tammuz's number crunching was public at one point, and that was run entirely by cons.

that’s fine. we can just do what Psychout does, which is post a link on the main forum saying “Autobots, go here”, with no further explaination needed. bots that need access to Iacon can then ask for it. as for the secrecy, i don’t care personally. my main point, regardless of if it seems secretive or not, is that we don’t need cons holding our hands at every step of the way. we can do things for ourselves that are aimed directly and exclusively at jumpstarting Autobot activity. the cons don’t have that problem. we do.

See, I disagree with that "entirely flexible opt-outable" thing, at least in the way you seem to be using it. If you schedule something, and don't get enough participation because something else is going on at the same time, then it's going to look like it failed, why do it again. Conversely, if you have to constantly cancel and reschedule stuff, you look unreliable so why would people sign up?

nah, it won’t look like it failed. especially if people say “hey this looks great, but due to time constraints, i can only participate in the Campaign for Cybertron, but next time this runs, i’m in.” that doesn’t seem too hard to do, especially since that’s what people are already doing with just regular playing. also, since we are the ones putting together these Autobot events, with every single one of us being able to participate in the planning and execution, i don’t think it would put people off if we have to reschedule one or two. it’s not like it’s just going to be one person doing all the work. we’re a faction.

And Sprokitz was curious, as most people would be. It's a good thing. It sucks that he can't get involved as he is now a con, but that's not a bad thing that he was interested. I understand you have problems with the public, but, you know, not everyone does. The game is for fun, people should be encouraged to participate, and again, not every Autobot has access to Iacon. I didn't until recently.

i never said it was a bad thing for others to show interest. i lamented the fact that he can’t participate. it really does suck, because like i stated, he doesn’t participate in the events often. also, despite what you may have been briefed on by your mates in the rdd, i don’t have “problems with the public”. i had a problem with one decepticon, which was manipulated into me having a problem with the entire forum due to my unwillingness to “shut the **** up” about the fact that they were completely wrong for exploiting the game. i can’t really help it if people are offended by me being direct.

i, for one, worked hard to get my team where it is, just like you did. so i’ll be damned if some players think they can come back after years away and act like they can do whatever they want simply because they have the ability to and the numbers on their side to back them up. if that makes me an outcast, i’m happy to be on the fringes.

also note that i’m not here tryna pick a fight with you. so if anything you read in my response rubs you the wrong way, i apologize as that’s not my intention. i just want to ensure i do everything i can to help move us Autobots out of the shadow of the Decepticons and the RDD, and it seems like these inter-faction events are a great way to get us rolling in the way of establishing a self identity for Autobots that is separate and distinct from everyone else... a way to get people actually interested in being an Autobot.

also note: when i say “Autobot” i’m including everyone who fights under the red insignia, regardless of what people personally identify as.

Not sure what part of "Not all Autobots have access to Iacon." you've failed to understand. I can't say how rampant the problem is now, but it was pretty common back in the day, and I didn't have Iacon access for -years-.

I'm also not sure why you brought the exploit conversation up in here, but it's hardly an exploit. It never gave you an unfair advantage, and you have had at least one alt mode that was modified in the past, if not currently. It was basically the same as the alt hunt without having to do the hunting. You got nothing but a pretty picture, and anyone could do it. Again, it didn't give you an advantage at all. Hell, I -still- have out of class alt modes on a few characters. It gives me nothing but warm and fuzzy feelings to have a lion turn into a heavy repair vehicle.

You had a problem with more than one. You picked a fight with one in that instance, but that's not even the only time. You got lucky you didn't get a ban. That could have easily been one, and might have been one if not for Burn being the mod. Regardless, that issue was settled, why are you bringing it up now? It was only mentioned because I didn't know what problem was, and someone linked the posts. It was resolved, it should be water under the bridge.

Low participation is generally the sign of a failed run. Again, been here for a while, seen some fail. Saw one get shut down because the guy got upset that I tracked minicon kills back when they were a thing which was unrelated to the event he was running. It happens. Some times people don't like sharing the spot light and get upset. Granted, Psych and Sustain have always been cool about most things, so I don't see them getting butt hurt over it, but you also run the risk of burn out on events if you have to many. That's why they're spacing them out.

I didn't work hard to set my team up. It's not hard work going for the lowest available upgrade. And those returning players worked hard, by your standard, to set their team up the way they wanted to as well, and they did it more than once since before you started, the game got reset to 0. It's how I managed to play for all 4 factions. Don't take the position that just because they took time away from the game means they didn't work hard to get there. I used to play this game 16hrs a day 7 days a week. Burn out happens and people have to take time off, or life happens and stuff comes up and they're not able to play as much. Don't take the stance that just because they took time away, you're some how better.

PS. I'm lazy, so I don't feel like breaking things up to respond to smaller chunks.

by **Jack Hallows** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:36 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:Well, not every Autobot has access to Iacon, so dropping stuff in the general forum is a good way to get those bots into the event. It should be about maximum participation, not keeping things secret, which honestly, what is really a secret in this game? Hell, even Tammuz's number crunching was public at one point, and that was run entirely by cons.

that’s fine. we can just do what Psychout does, which is post a link on the main forum saying “Autobots, go here”, with no further explaination needed. bots that need access to Iacon can then ask for it. as for the secrecy, i don’t care personally. my main point, regardless of if it seems secretive or not, is that we don’t need cons holding our hands at every step of the way. we can do things for ourselves that are aimed directly and exclusively at jumpstarting Autobot activity. the cons don’t have that problem. we do.

See, I disagree with that "entirely flexible opt-outable" thing, at least in the way you seem to be using it. If you schedule something, and don't get enough participation because something else is going on at the same time, then it's going to look like it failed, why do it again. Conversely, if you have to constantly cancel and reschedule stuff, you look unreliable so why would people sign up?

nah, it won’t look like it failed. especially if people say “hey this looks great, but due to time constraints, i can only participate in the Campaign for Cybertron, but next time this runs, i’m in.” that doesn’t seem too hard to do, especially since that’s what people are already doing with just regular playing. also, since we are the ones putting together these Autobot events, with every single one of us being able to participate in the planning and execution, i don’t think it would put people off if we have to reschedule one or two. it’s not like it’s just going to be one person doing all the work. we’re a faction.

And Sprokitz was curious, as most people would be. It's a good thing. It sucks that he can't get involved as he is now a con, but that's not a bad thing that he was interested. I understand you have problems with the public, but, you know, not everyone does. The game is for fun, people should be encouraged to participate, and again, not every Autobot has access to Iacon. I didn't until recently.

i never said it was a bad thing for others to show interest. i lamented the fact that he can’t participate. it really does suck, because like i stated, he doesn’t participate in the events often. also, despite what you may have been briefed on by your mates in the rdd, i don’t have “problems with the public”. i had a problem with one decepticon, which was manipulated into me having a problem with the entire forum due to my unwillingness to “shut the **** up” about the fact that they were completely wrong for exploiting the game. i can’t really help it if people are offended by me being direct.

i, for one, worked hard to get my team where it is, just like you did. so i’ll be damned if some players think they can come back after years away and act like they can do whatever they want simply because they have the ability to and the numbers on their side to back them up. if that makes me an outcast, i’m happy to be on the fringes.

also note that i’m not here tryna pick a fight with you. so if anything you read in my response rubs you the wrong way, i apologize as that’s not my intention. i just want to ensure i do everything i can to help move us Autobots out of the shadow of the Decepticons and the RDD, and it seems like these inter-faction events are a great way to get us rolling in the way of establishing a self identity for Autobots that is separate and distinct from everyone else... a way to get people actually interested in being an Autobot.

also note: when i say “Autobot” i’m including everyone who fights under the red insignia, regardless of what people personally identify as.

by **Burn** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:17 pm

Jack Hallows wrote:we shouldn’t have to let the entire forum know what we’re doing for ourselves.

Who said you had to?

by **Absolute Zero** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:05 pm

Jack Hallows wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:
Burn wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:you’re still making it seem like they have to know what we’re doing in order for us to run anything strictly Autobot related.

That's your interpretation, which is wrong. All a person has to do is say "hey do you guys have anything planned for xxxx date?" That is all I was suggesting.

ey i’m just doing my job. & good to know.

@sumo, there’s a thread on the main forum where ideas for tournaments were shared between factions. that’s where Psychout got the spark for this last event phase.

Well, since Sustain and Psychout run tournaments for both factions, Burn was doing his job and suggest polite conversation with people. If you run something for both sides, the same time one side runs something for themselves, that side just doing an exclusive thing might not fully compete in the larger tournament. And since the whole point of these events is to increase the participation level, you generally don't want one conflicting with another. Plus it's polite, which I know is an alien concept.

welcome back. been needing some extra firepower.

& ey like i said, people have the option to choose if they can participate, which is what makes it all the better. with multiple events planned over multiple months, people are going to get event burn out regardless. it’s already happened and we’re only 3 events in.

who’s to say people will only participate in the faction exclusive event? the prizes alone might be the factor in who participates in what, and since it’s just energon for ours, while the larger ones offer weapons, new alts and other goodies, it seems like those will always take priority; which is what most of us would want anyway, i suspect.

my point is: the best part about running inter-faction games is that they’re entirely flexible or opt-out-able with 0 risk if it’s something that will conflict. and since Sustain and Psychout are good at stating the timeframes in which their events will run, bots who want to run inter-faction games can just go off of that if it’s something they think will be an issue.

politeness aside, which does happen regardless of who says what, we shouldn’t have to let the entire forum know what we’re doing for ourselves. otherwise, why not make it forum wide? there’s already a con who expressed interest but can’t play due to not being one of us, and i’ve only seen them sign up for one of the three event phases so far. that sucks to see, especially since they’re one of the non-troll, non-RDD members of our opposition.

Well, not every Autobot has access to Iacon, so dropping stuff in the general forum is a good way to get those bots into the event. It should be about maximum participation, not keeping things secret, which honestly, what is really a secret in this game? Hell, even Tammuz's number crunching was public at one point, and that was run entirely by cons.

See, I disagree with that "entirely flexible opt-outable" thing, at least in the way you seem to be using it. If you schedule something, and don't get enough participation because something else is going on at the same time, then it's going to look like it failed, why do it again. Conversely, if you have to constantly cancel and reschedule stuff, you look unreliable so why would people sign up?

As a RDD member, let me say this. Pretty much all the cons are RDD, even if they're not tagged for it. And Sprokitz was curious, as most people would be. It's a good thing. It sucks that he can't get involved as he is now a con, but that's not a bad thing that he was interested. I understand you have problems with the public, but, you know, not everyone does. The game is for fun, people should be encouraged to participate, and again, not every Autobot has access to Iacon. I didn't until recently.

by **S.o.L.** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:36 pm

I agree that some of the Iacon competitions should be secret, like the bug hunt was. Especially if it was a bounty hunt on a specific alt (bugs) or commanders.

by **Jack Hallows** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:01 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:
Burn wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:you’re still making it seem like they have to know what we’re doing in order for us to run anything strictly Autobot related.

That's your interpretation, which is wrong. All a person has to do is say "hey do you guys have anything planned for xxxx date?" That is all I was suggesting.

ey i’m just doing my job. & good to know.

@sumo, there’s a thread on the main forum where ideas for tournaments were shared between factions. that’s where Psychout got the spark for this last event phase.

Well, since Sustain and Psychout run tournaments for both factions, Burn was doing his job and suggest polite conversation with people. If you run something for both sides, the same time one side runs something for themselves, that side just doing an exclusive thing might not fully compete in the larger tournament. And since the whole point of these events is to increase the participation level, you generally don't want one conflicting with another. Plus it's polite, which I know is an alien concept.

welcome back. been needing some extra firepower.

& ey like i said, people have the option to choose if they can participate, which is what makes it all the better. with multiple events planned over multiple months, people are going to get event burn out regardless. it’s already happened and we’re only 3 events in.

who’s to say people will only participate in the faction exclusive event? the prizes alone might be the factor in who participates in what, and since it’s just energon for ours, while the larger ones offer weapons, new alts and other goodies, it seems like those will always take priority; which is what most of us would want anyway, i suspect.

my point is: the best part about running inter-faction games is that they’re entirely flexible or opt-out-able with 0 risk if it’s something that will conflict. and since Sustain and Psychout are good at stating the timeframes in which their events will run, bots who want to run inter-faction games can just go off of that if it’s something they think will be an issue.

politeness aside, which does happen regardless of who says what, we shouldn’t have to let the entire forum know what we’re doing for ourselves. otherwise, why not make it forum wide? there’s already a con who expressed interest but can’t play due to not being one of us, and i’ve only seen them sign up for one of the three event phases so far. that sucks to see, especially since they’re one of the non-troll, non-RDD members of our opposition.

by **Absolute Zero** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:16 am

Jack Hallows wrote:
Burn wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:you’re still making it seem like they have to know what we’re doing in order for us to run anything strictly Autobot related.

That's your interpretation, which is wrong. All a person has to do is say "hey do you guys have anything planned for xxxx date?" That is all I was suggesting.

ey i’m just doing my job. & good to know.

@sumo, there’s a thread on the main forum where ideas for tournaments were shared between factions. that’s where Psychout got the spark for this last event phase.

Well, since Sustain and Psychout run tournaments for both factions, Burn was doing his job and suggest polite conversation with people. If you run something for both sides, the same time one side runs something for themselves, that side just doing an exclusive thing might not fully compete in the larger tournament. And since the whole point of these events is to increase the participation level, you generally don't want one conflicting with another. Plus it's polite, which I know is an alien concept.

by **Jack Hallows** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:02 am

Burn wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:you’re still making it seem like they have to know what we’re doing in order for us to run anything strictly Autobot related.

That's your interpretation, which is wrong. All a person has to do is say "hey do you guys have anything planned for xxxx date?" That is all I was suggesting.

ey i’m just doing my job. & good to know.

@sumo, there’s a thread on the main forum where ideas for tournaments were shared between factions. that’s where Psychout got the spark for this last event phase.

by **sumowrestler** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:41 am

I have talked to Sustain and Psychout more for input on what they think. I hope the Bots and Cons are getting along and share ideas this time. Who knows, Sustain and Psychout may use some of my ideas in the HMW tournaments. If people are willing, I'm wanting to do a test run starting this Friday with one of the categories. I'll be posting about it shortly in another thread here and also in the HMW main forum in case there are Bots who don't check here that often.

by **Burn** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:18 pm

Jack Hallows wrote:you’re still making it seem like they have to know what we’re doing in order for us to run anything strictly Autobot related.

That's your interpretation, which is wrong. All a person has to do is say "hey do you guys have anything planned for xxxx date?" That is all I was suggesting.

what if bots want to run something exclusively between us with 0 outside knowledge or interference?

No one is saying that can't happen.

who cares if it runs parallel to something the cons have planned?
the bots who sign up for it (if there is a sign up) will be doing so knowingly and therefore be able to opt out if they’re unable to fulfill both commitments. that’s the beauty of it. everything is our choice. we run it so we choose. and if we choose to let the cons in on it, that will be our choice too.

Again, no one is stopping that from happening.

and also note that this isn’t meant to “alienate” or whatever i’ll be accused of doing. it is what it is. the bots should be able to run our own games in-house if we want. at least to test things at first.

Again, no one is stopping that.

by **Jack Hallows** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:01 pm

you’re still making it seem like they have to know what we’re doing in order for us to run anything strictly Autobot related.

what if bots want to run something exclusively between us with 0 outside knowledge or interference?

who cares if it runs parallel to something the cons have planned? the bots who sign up for it (if there is a sign up) will be doing so knowingly and therefore be able to opt out if they’re unable to fulfill both commitments. that’s the beauty of it. everything is our choice. we run it so we choose. and if we choose to let the cons in on it, that will be our choice too.

and also note that this isn’t meant to “alienate” or whatever i’ll be accused of doing. it is what it is. the bots should be able to run our own games in-house if we want. at least to test things at first.

by **Burn** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:15 pm

Jack Hallows wrote:i like the idea. i’m in the works of something similar.

Burn wrote:Before you dive in and go nuts organising things like no one else is ... talk to Psychout and Sustain, they actually have plans for monthly competitions.

why should he have to go through them in order to organize something between bots?

I NEVER said he had to "go through them", I said he should talk to them and work with them.

Sumo, (and anyone else) is more than welcome to run Autobot only competitions, but check with Psychout and Sustain so that it can either work in with their competitions or doesn't clash.

by **Jack Hallows** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:08 pm

i like the idea. i’m in the works of something similar.

Burn wrote:Before you dive in and go nuts organising things like no one else is ... talk to Psychout and Sustain, they actually have plans for monthly competitions.

why should he have to go through them in order to organize something between bots?

by **Burn** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:18 am

turbomagnus wrote:
Burn wrote:FYI, mission stuff is part of what's broken in the HMW Control Panel.

...You say that like there's something not broken in the HMW Control Panel...

Weapons.
Characters.
Armor.

Transformations may be functional ... :-?

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:03 am

Burn wrote:FYI, mission stuff is part of what's broken in the HMW Control Panel.

...You say that like there's something not broken in the HMW Control Panel... >:oP

by **Burn** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:26 am

I'm not relaying ****. I ain't ya **** serving boy.

That being said ... the "tag team" missions are single level, all the rest have a level spread of some sort. I can tell you there's 1-11, 9-11, and 7-10.

FYI, mission stuff is part of what's broken in the HMW Control Panel.

by **sumowrestler** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:08 am

turbomagnus wrote:
Burn wrote:Before you dive in and go nuts organising things like no one else is ... talk to Psychout and Sustain, they actually have plans for monthly competitions.
Thought that would have been obvious from all the threads about them.

In fact, they're about begging for someone (especially an Autobot, to balance out that they're both 'born to the purple') to help handle some of the future of the Campaign for Cybertron. I was talking to Psychout a bit back and they'll take all the help they can get, I think, you just have to contact them.

Ironically enough, you and the two new Decepticon players just missed the April round of CfC, it was actually based on an idea I had tossed out about 'capture the flag'. Psych expanded it to capturing teams in a combination scalp hunt/scavenger hunt, everyone enjoyed it. I hear tell that he's got something special planned for May...

I've chatted a little with Sustain about helping out with the next few months of competitions. These are more to get the Bots themselves active. I've got no problem sharing the ideas for HMW wide though.

Wingz, I was thinking about the stat issue. The best way is to limit it to certain missions to where similar grouped levels are fighting against each other. I also forgot one category, Last Mech Standing. Burn can correct me if I'm wrong but I think most missions are two or three level spread like a 1-3 and 4-7 with the exception of the 1-11. The other requirement would be the mission has to have at least two on each side especially for the kills and remaining categories. I did think of making separate threads but it will also depend how many we want to run each month. I doubt we could run nine events in a month but maybe two or three a month.

Yes Burn, if you want to relay this to Sustain and Psy, you may do so.

by **turbomagnus** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:34 pm

Burn wrote:Before you dive in and go nuts organising things like no one else is ... talk to Psychout and Sustain, they actually have plans for monthly competitions.
Thought that would have been obvious from all the threads about them.

In fact, they're about begging for someone (especially an Autobot, to balance out that they're both 'born to the purple') to help handle some of the future of the Campaign for Cybertron. I was talking to Psychout a bit back and they'll take all the help they can get, I think, you just have to contact them.

Ironically enough, you and the two new Decepticon players just missed the April round of CfC, it was actually based on an idea I had tossed out about 'capture the flag'. Psych expanded it to capturing teams in a combination scalp hunt/scavenger hunt, everyone enjoyed it. I hear tell that he's got something special planned for May...

by **Burn** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:43 pm

Before you dive in and go nuts organising things like no one else is ... talk to Psychout and Sustain, they actually have plans for monthly competitions.
Thought that would have been obvious from all the threads about them.

Wingz wrote:Finding a benefactor for energon might be the hard part

'sup.

by **Wingz** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:03 pm

A few of these might have to be split into categories :lol:

The more stats you have available, the higher your percentages for tactics, so it could be difficult for lower level players to compete. Same thing for first kill based on timezones.

How would you want to implement the ideas? For example, everyone keeping track in private then posting at the end of the month? Or a thread where those interested can keep track in a post, such as is done with the cross-faction events? If the links would be made available, I'd be willing to keep track of the scores, much like I did in the one-week rabbit war with Bun-Bun.

For example, if game #5 were chosen (strafing %), those interested in participating could just post their links in a thread for those interested, and I could go through them daily to update the score on a google spreadsheet (for all to see or hidden if participants would prefer). That way, those interested would only need to spot that they had strafed something and post the link

Finding a benefactor for energon might be the hard part :lol: