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Satan's Camaro wrote:Jesus christ hasbro stop with the f*ckin repaints and get with the animated already!!

You're asking for way too much, my friend.

I never said that I hate it but I do agree that Hasbro is trying to get as much money out of people as they can. I do wish that they had better quality movie figures from the very beginning.

Another Deluxe Jazz??? Jazz is dead. Hasbro has got to stop reusing him and move on.

Nekoman wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Seriously, this is why the Animated figures got pushed back?

No, Animated did not get pushed back for this. It got pushed back because Hasbro is taking the time to make better toys. Or maybe its like what I have been saying and Hasbro knows it wont sell so they’re putting it off and stating safe by repainting movie toys.

If they're gonna repaint stuff, they should go ahead and make it look different.

As for your negativity about Animated? If Hasbro thought it wouldn't sell, they'd put it on ice.

I'm more than ready to get some new molds, and I'm sure Hasbro will be happy to stop sharing their money with GM and Paramount. I night pick up a few things as the movie line goes on, but honestly, I think the premium series will bite them in the ass if they don't make damn sure these things don't look like the same ones from nine months ago.

"Premium" should be with die-cast metals, metalic paint and rubber wheels.

I haven't been fllowing the Premium news too closely, so, I must ask, is any character featured in the movie not being rereleased in the Premium line?

Bonger wrote:I haven't been fllowing the Premium news too closely, so, I must ask, is any character featured in the movie not being rereleased in the Premium line?

So far, the only ones that I know of who aren't getting the Premium treatment yet, is Bonecusher, and Brawl. Wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro repainted them into Premiums, and it also wouldn't surprise me if the decided to repaint more toys from this movie as well.

Megatron the Great wrote:

Bonger wrote:I haven't been fllowing the Premium news too closely, so, I must ask, is any character featured in the movie not being rereleased in the Premium line?

So far, the only ones that I know of who aren't getting the Premium treatment yet, is Bonecusher, and Brawl. Wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro repainted them into Premiums, and it also wouldn't surprise me if the decided to repaint more toys from this movie as well.

Not even the Leader Brawl? Thats too bad.

Bonger wrote:

Megatron the Great wrote:

Bonger wrote:I haven't been fllowing the Premium news too closely, so, I must ask, is any character featured in the movie not being rereleased in the Premium line?

So far, the only ones that I know of who aren't getting the Premium treatment yet, is Bonecusher, and Brawl. Wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro repainted them into Premiums, and it also wouldn't surprise me if the decided to repaint more toys from this movie as well.

Not even the Leader Brawl? Thats too bad.

Yeah, I agree. But knowing Hasbro, they'll release the deluxe one with the craptacular arms that won't stay together.

Why don't they actually fix the figure. Give him better articulation, acual hands, a good paint job

I guess all premium deluxe will have the same packaging. I was hoping they would pack them in robot mode to differentiate them from the prior releases. It looks like I will be skipping this repaint line. Except maybe for Concept BB because I love the mold.

Nekoman wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Seriously, this is why the Animated figures got pushed back?

No, Animated did not get pushed back for this. It got pushed back because Hasbro is taking the time to make better toys. Or maybe its like what I have been saying and Hasbro knows it wont sell so they’re putting it off and stating safe by repainting movie toys.

nekoman, you honestly believe that the hasbro deciaion makers (whoever they are) are shaking in their boots saying 'oh dear the animation toys just arent going to sell'.

At which point in the product development do you think they came to that realisation? only once they had already made 10,000 of each (or however many they make initially), when its a bit late to do much about it.

There is no reason whatsoever to imagine that hasbro are feeling that the animation toys wont sell. The only thing i can imagine that would persuade me is that a large experiment was conducted, hasro got about 100 kids aged 7-10, put them in a big room with a massive set of movie toys and a massive set of animation toys (also have teh animation episodes running, remember they cant watch the movie) and the kids simply ignored the animation toys and played with the movie ones. that might cause the hasbro decision makers to worry.

I think you maybe pushing a rather large assertion without any evidence.

The movie line is selling better than any TF line Hasbro has produced in the last 10 years. Many retailers ordered fewer units than they could have sold over Christmas, and a lot of places sold out. With the DVD out, demand is still high.

Animated isn't being 'held back' for any dark purpose. The movie line is being extended because it's hot, and Hasbro are focussing on rereleasing characters that were in the film because they sell a lot better. Animated just won't come out for a while, which is fine because it will help to build demand and in the meantime kids can always get movie figures to tide them over. In other words- everything is fine. Nothing is ruined. Animated will be awesome, but those of us who got in sharp on the movie toys will be playing the waiting game for a while.

There's always eBay, and tracking down older stuff. I'm gonna go look for a Gnaw.

-Nick

If we understand this as a toy to own in addition to the original, it's crummy and pointless.

If we understand this as a re-release of an extremely popular line that sold out, it makes perfect sense. It's a slight touch-up on a figure they expect more people to buy.

I wish that Animated toys would get onto the shelves, too, but Hasbro sees themselves making more money off the movie line, and they're probably right.

Kayevcee wrote:Animated isn't being 'held back' for any dark purpose. The movie line is being extended because it's hot, and Hasbro are focussing on rereleasing characters that were in the film because they sell a lot better. Animated just won't come out for a while, which is fine because it will help to build demand and in the meantime kids can always get movie figures to tide them over. In other words- everything is fine. Nothing is ruined. Animated will be awesome, but those of us who got in sharp on the movie toys will be playing the waiting game for a while.

I know. Hasbro's just trying to make sure they keep the franchise healthy and make money. I'm not saying there's malicious intent. Hasbro's generally been pretty good tot his fanbase.

I'm just not happy about having to wait longer. It's the counting-the-days-until-christmas kind of aniticipation, really, the kind that makes you giddy and yet makes you wanna pull your hair out at the same time. I know the wait will be worth it... But that just makes it harder to wait!

Auto Bot wrote:Another Deluxe Jazz??? Jazz is dead. Hasbro has got to stop reusing him and move on.

Too true! Too true!

microclone wrote:

Nekoman wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Seriously, this is why the Animated figures got pushed back?

No, Animated did not get pushed back for this. It got pushed back because Hasbro is taking the time to make better toys. Or maybe its like what I have been saying and Hasbro knows it wont sell so they’re putting it off and stating safe by repainting movie toys.

nekoman, you honestly believe that the hasbro deciaion makers (whoever they are) are shaking in their boots saying 'oh dear the animation toys just arent going to sell'.

At which point in the product development do you think they came to that realisation? only once they had already made 10,000 of each (or however many they make initially), when its a bit late to do much about it.

There is no reason whatsoever to imagine that hasbro are feeling that the animation toys wont sell. The only thing i can imagine that would persuade me is that a large experiment was conducted, hasro got about 100 kids aged 7-10, put them in a big room with a massive set of movie toys and a massive set of animation toys (also have teh animation episodes running, remember they cant watch the movie) and the kids simply ignored the animation toys and played with the movie ones. that might cause the hasbro decision makers to worry.

I think you maybe pushing a rather large assertion without any evidence.

Well I don’t have any evidence but it was slightly sarcasm. I think Animated wont be the hit a lot of people put it out to be, but it will probably do just about as good as a regular TF series.

My real point is that they probably got pushed back because the toys just didn’t make it in time and Hasbro didn’t want people getting a Prime with no paint or bumblebee who’s chest falls apart or some other guy who falls apart right out of the package.

Back to how animated will do, I think if you compare how hard it was to find the movie toys when they came out as to how hard it is to find animated figures when they come out, you may notice that on June second 08 you’ll see more bumblebees than 07. But, hey, think of it this way. If animated does okay but not too good, you and everyone who likes it wont have a hard time finding the toys.

I'm right there with everyone else when I say that I am sick and tired of Hasbro and their repaints, I want to see something new, like the animated toys. Or better yet, accelerate the release of Classics 2.0, please don't make me wait until this Fall!

Probably every movie figure will come out as Premium soon.

Mechabreaker wrote:I'm right there with everyone else when I say that I am sick and tired of Hasbro and their repaints, I want to see something new, like the animated toys. Or better yet, accelerate the release of Classics 2.0, please don't make me wait until this Fall!

Heck ya, what you said!

This Jazz is like Jesus. He died, but he keeps coming back to haunt us. However, unlike Jesus I won't mind this reanimated corpse being in my house :]... because I missed out on all the other releases of Jazz. Being unemployed during a pretty impressive toyline sucks D:

I have nothing against the Premium Series. I will try and get most of them. Not having the original Jazz is also a plus. But I will get Premium Prime even though I have the original.