The Energon Pub

Who would win, one on one?

I go for Blackout cuz he has that crazy EMP shockwave. But Brawl might get sneaky and shoot under his crotch where Blackout forgot to put on some armoured knickers.

Unlikely though.

Well as Transformers seem to fall to bits on sight of a blade, i'd go for a Blackout win with his crazy blade attack

...any body else thought that the way Brawl and Bonecrusher's arms were hacked off in the film was more than a bit....easy? Did these guys come to Earth with tin foil armour?

Saberwing wrote:Well as Transformers seem to fall to bits on sight of a blade, i'd go for a Blackout win with his crazy blade attack

...any body else thought that the way Brawl and Bonecrusher's arms were hacked off in the film was more than a bit....easy? Did these guys come to Earth with tin foil armour?

Ye that was kinda lame. I can kinda understand bones cause prime used brute strength, but why brawl? One little razor from rachet and off it goes

Mr.Bond007 wrote:

Saberwing wrote:Well as Transformers seem to fall to bits on sight of a blade, i'd go for a Blackout win with his crazy blade attack

...any body else thought that the way Brawl and Bonecrusher's arms were hacked off in the film was more than a bit....easy? Did these guys come to Earth with tin foil armour?

Ye that was kinda lame. I can kinda understand bones cause prime used brute strength, but why brawl? One little razor from rachet and off it goes

yep, well these are not the same Transformers we grew up with and loved. i would love a scene in the next film with Megs throwing a Energon cube at Starscream's head, but it's not gonna happen.

Well, with Brawl's arm, Ratchet was using the same saw which he could potentially need to repair a downed bot, so he might have to cut through some armor. That, and severed limbs are just cool. I think Blackout would win, though, even though he got taken out like a punk bitch in the city.

The way I see it thier "armour" was like a bullet-proof vest. what i mean is that thier arms or legs are more vunurable than thier body.

Brawl took a lot of hits and still got back up, and prime's blade looks like it could cut though almost anything anyway.

even Megatron apparently lost a leg and arm.

Brawl's armour is made from Cybertronian alloy.

Ratchet's saw is made from Cybertronian metal.

Ratchet wins.

Sentinel Pax wrote:Well, with Brawl's arm, Ratchet was using the same saw which he could potentially need to repair a downed bot, so he might have to cut through some armor. That, and severed limbs are just cool. I think Blackout would win, though, even though he got taken out like a punk bitch in the city.

Exactly. I think that the weapons are probably stronger and made out of better materials than the armor and/or have certain elements (such as the energon/heat element in Primes sword) that would allow it to better slice through armor. And I was under the impression it was just brawls hand, which in that case didn't have near as much armor as the rest of his body.

I think that Blackout seemed like the more maneuverable one of the two (they both looked pretty slow in the movie, but I don't think the movie gave them justice) and had better hand to hand weapons. I guess it would boil down to whether or not Blackout would get close enough to Brawl to do major damage.

Blackout.

Larger, stronger, has superior firepower (had energy based weapons as well as Earth based weapons, whereas Brawl seemed to only have Earth based weapons). Blackout's EMP and rotorblades would also give him an advantage, as has been discussed Brawl does not like blades of any sort.

Brawl. Took a lot more to take him down. Plus Blackout was too much of a dum dum to use his EMP while in battle in the city.

Moonbase2 wrote:Brawl. Took a lot more to take him down. Plus Blackout was too much of a dum dum to use his EMP while in battle in the city.

actually he did use it when he noticed the green lasor on his arm and it wasnt bonecrushers arms it was his head and he died like a pussy in 2 min he appeared on screen to die by prime but as far as black out and brawl goes id go with blackout, more weopons, he does have scorpinoc and he did take out an entire military base himself.

Blackout

glitched9700 wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:Brawl. Took a lot more to take him down. Plus Blackout was too much of a dum dum to use his EMP while in battle in the city.

actually he did use it when he noticed the green lasor on his arm and it wasnt bonecrushers arms it was his head and he died like a pussy in 2 min he appeared on screen to die by prime but as far as black out and brawl goes id go with blackout, more weopons, he does have scorpinoc and he did take out an entire military base himself.

....uh, what?

If there go on beating each other on the ground, say, in a closed arena, Brawl will definitely win. He can take a lot more beating than Blackout can. Blackout is a push over with just one shot.

As for the spinning blades, Brawl got the Wolverine claw thing. That's far more powerful and easier to direct the hits than a spinning rotor blade.

But in the open field, if Blackout will be wise and stay afloat in the air, and keep his distance, he can win.

(Unlike Megatron who doesn't have a freaking brain to know when to move around or move away.)

Moonbase2 wrote:

glitched9700 wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:Brawl. Took a lot more to take him down. Plus Blackout was too much of a dum dum to use his EMP while in battle in the city.

actually he did use it when he noticed the green lasor on his arm and it wasnt bonecrushers arms it was his head and he died like a pussy in 2 min he appeared on screen to die by prime but as far as black out and brawl goes id go with blackout, more weopons, he does have scorpinoc and he did take out an entire military base himself.

....uh, what?

Blackout used his emp cannon in the city when the military guys were targeting him for the air strike.

And then the rest of what i said was bonecrusher didn't have his arms cut off it was his head.

glitched9700 wrote:[quote="Moonbase2

And then the rest of what i said was bonecrusher didn't have his arms cut off it was his head.

actually it seems his left arm goes, then prime gets him in a headlock

I'm watching the sequence now - i cant post the link but can i cough 'youtube'?

Bonecrusher was given no respect by Michael Bay - he deserved a better death

Brawl is a lot tougher than Blackout, since he is a tank. He also has more arsenal than Blackout. He probably wins close combats.

But Blackout can fly and shoot EMPs. These abilities give him an upper hand in long-range battles.

Blackout has a advantage, his size, his EMP, and the fact he can fly. has a more agile alt mode than Brawl has. but then again, Brawl is more of a meat shield, took a lot of damage before he went down.

prowl24 wrote:Brawl is a lot tougher than Blackout, since he is a tank. He also has more arsenal than Blackout. He probably wins close combats.

But Blackout can fly and shoot EMPs. These abilities give him an upper hand in long-range battles.

IF... Blackout follows Starscream instead of Megatron