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In this episode of the code of honor, Dinobot tried to commit suicide but decide not to after seeing birds flying. He is all by himself in his room. He was a predacon why did they leave him alone and allow him to have his own room especially after he gave the discs back to MEgs?

He switched to the Maximals originally.

He proved to be trustworthy for the most part.

It also seemed like every member of the Axalon's crew had their own room.

Also, the Maximals didn't know Dinobot gave the discs back to Megatron.

I don't think he chose to not commit suicide because of birds though.

He chose not to because he realized it wasn't an honorable way to go out.

Dinobot is an honorably warrior.

That's why the episode is called Code of Honor

Uh. I don't think birds actually stopped him from committing suicide. Dinobot was a warrior and had a strong sense of honor (hence the title). Which is why he took out so many Preds, overrode his Stasis warnings before actually dying.

yup, i don't think he was trying to commit suicide, i think he was contemplating his fate and his beliefs as a warrior, or maybe he even had a premonition that he was going to go out soon.

The episode title is Code of Hero.

God Magnus wrote:The episode title is Code of Hero.

You're right

I was to busy/scatter brains to even realize what I was typing

I didn't think he was being suicidal. I thought he was contemplating his life, and what he learnt from the discs way back in Comming of Fuzors:

Dinobot wrote:Is the future already set? Have I no control? For I could not live, if not master of my own fate. But if these records are true, then my passing will be but mere moments from confirmation.

Or words to that affect. I figured he was just angry, that's why he threw his sword away.

Insurgent wrote:I didn't think he was being suicidal. I thought he was contemplating his life, and what he learnt from the discs way back in Comming of Fuzors:

Dinobot wrote:Is the future already set? Have I no control? For I could not live, if not master of my own fate. But if these records are true, then my passing will be but mere moments from confirmation.

Or words to that affect. I figured he was just angry, that's why he threw his sword away.

Seconded, it was more a "what would happen if I were here no longer?" or "If the future is set & I am needed then I wont end up killing myself now..." kinda thing. There is also the "not an honorable way to die" thing but I believe it was more him testing his worth.

Dinobot would never had thought of suicide. He was attempting to meditate, but disgusted with himself then throwing his sword.

Predaprince wrote:Dinobot would never had thought of suicide. He was attempting to meditate, but disgusted with himself then throwing his sword.

I alway thought he was attempting suicide, but, thinking about your post, I think you are correct sir!

He wouldn't have killed himself, for the reasons that have already been stated.
The discs had raised the possibility that the future was fixed. He was basically wondering the same thing that I think most of us would under the cirumstances:

"If nothing I do will have any impact on the future... what's the point in doing anything? What point is there even in my existing?"

I think he clearly was contemplating Seppuku, or Hari Kari, the honorable suicide of anyone who follows the code of Bushido.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Suppuku is used by warriors to avoid falling into enemy hands, and to attenuate shame.... seppuku was a deed of bravery that was admirable in a samurai who knew he was defeated, disgraced, or mortally wounded. It meant that he could end his days with his transgressions wiped away and with his reputation not merely intact but actually enhanced. The cutting of the abdomen released the samurai’s spirit in the most dramatic fashion...

Scaleface wrote:I think he clearly was contemplating Seppuku, or Hari Kari, the honorable suicide of anyone who follows the code of Bushido.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Suppuku is used by warriors to avoid falling into enemy hands, and to attenuate shame.... seppuku was a deed of bravery that was admirable in a samurai who knew he was defeated, disgraced, or mortally wounded. It meant that he could end his days with his transgressions wiped away and with his reputation not merely intact but actually enhanced. The cutting of the abdomen released the samurai’s spirit in the most dramatic fashion, but it is an extremely painful and unpleasant way to die, and sometimes the samurai who was performing the act asked a loyal comrade to cut off his head at the moment of agony.

There seems to be two different viewpoints on this site that I have already seen in the past on the type of warrior that Dinobot is. One viewpoint is your viewpoint of bushido. I know of bushido I see some ways of Dinobot's honor that match with bushido, but I do not see him as a true bushido warrior instead my viewpoint is that he much more like a Nordic warrior of old. They fought with honor to an honorable death, but had more of a personality like Dinobot's with his dialogue to other Maximals and monologues to himself. His quotes are those of Nordic with symbolism whereas bushido warriors spoke very little and when they would speak it was straight-forward.

Still, he turns the sword point twards his stomache - clearly illustrating a classic suicide pose. Isn't it even mentioned in the episode description?

Scaleface wrote:Still, he turns the sword point twards his stomache - clearly illustrating a classic suicide pose. Isn't it even mentioned in the episode description?

Did he? I need to go watch that ep again. Yeah, like I need an excuse to watch THIS classic episode.