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Anyone else think its probably the best series since G1?

No. No one at all. It's just you. How does that make you feel?

I wouldn’t say it’s the best line, nor would I say G1 was the best line, but I agree that its better than G1.

Who are you agreeing with? You're the first person to say it's better than G1.

Sledge wrote:Who are you agreeing with? You're the first person to say it's better than G1.

Sorry, that was just my opinion, I should have thought about my post a bit more, but I do think a lot of lines were better than G1, not just Cybertron.

just looking for opinions on the mattter.Next time you start a thread ill be the first one to say something smartass

I can pretty much guarantee that in any thread I start, I'll be the first one to say something smartass.

Anyway, I've answered your question. What's your problem?

I liked Beast Wars better than Cybertron, and the
episodes of Masterforce I have seen on youtube
I liked better than Cybertron.
Cybertron was o.k., I guess, but not the best since
the original.

massmachine wrote:just looking for opinions on the mattter.Next time you start a thread ill be the first one to say something smartass

Sledge just stated his opinion, there was no reason to call him that.

Woah easy on the newbies Sledge, outward hostility doesn't make for a good discussion.

as I do find your comments amusing most of the time i think that belittling someone as you did in that first and subsequent post on this topic was uncalled for.


anway back on topic, I think that cybertron had some good molds toy wise but i'm just not getting used to the whole 3D series thing. give me a nicely animated cartoon anytime.

so with no real story to follow i didn't enjoy the figures as much in cybertron whereas in the G1 cartoon everything is kept sweet and simple, I like a characters personality, i buy the figure. It also helped that each episode in G1 was just a 20 min advert for the figures.

0ctane wrote:Woah easy on the newbies Sledge, outward hostility doesn't make for a good discussion.

as I do find your comments amusing most of the time i think that belittling someone as you did in that first and subsequent post on this topic was uncalled for.
.

Why should he? You can be a noob on a forum, but you cant be a noob in life unless your a one month old, and if you are, you shouldn’t be on the internet.

well Im assuming that since this is in the toy forum, we're talking about the toys. Since I wasn't born in the G1 era, the simple yet effective in some cases designs dont hold any nostalgia for me. As a result, I do like Cybertron better, since they just look better to me, and they had some solid toys, but I wouldn't say they're the best, because a lot of the classics and alternators can beat cybertron out imo.

I wouldn't say I was being hostile, just poking fun at a fairly inane question. Then again, I'm told my sense of humour can take a little getting used to, so... something.

Oh, and in answer to massmachine's charming PM: no, I'm not a cock, and the word you were looking for is spelt "you're" not "your."

BEAST WARS FOREVER!

along with G1.

I have never seen an episode of the Cybertron TV show, but my opinion on the toy line after purchasing 6 of the figures and looking at the pictures of most is:

It is a pretty solid line with seemingly few figures that are terrible, but there are also few "must haves" in this line. The different planet angle of the storyline(which I confess, I don't completely understand) seemed interesting, but the "planet keys" concept comes across as a cheap gimmick just for the sake of having a gimmick.

I think the strength of the line is in the larger classes, such as Primus and Galaxy Force Prime, but the real meat and potatoes of any line is in the voyager and deluxe classes, and I think Cybertron comes up short in this department. Again, I don't want to make definitive statements on figures I don't own, but the fact that I haven't been compelled to buy many of them even when presented with the opportunity tells me something.

I also found the alt modes of many figures to be too ambitious in futuristic designs to the point where many alt modes don't seem to reseble much at all. The transformations on the figures that I do have seem to range from boring(Nemisis Breaker, Skywarp) to needlessly difficult without really being all that complex(Smokescreen's arms).

All in all, not a bad line, but not one that I really regret missing out on for the most part.

umm ok, there are ways of sorting things out without resulting to just baiting people with sarcastic comments. you see not everyone knows everything about TF's or board etiquette or even just plain consideration for another individual.

If someone makes a post about something they are usually looking for it to be discussed not just dissed. so yeah, I'd just like to see less hostility because a lot of the older board members aren't posting here anymore because of the attitude of some people.

I see no justification for Sledge's first 2 posts, its as simple as that. once in a while people should try putting themselves in other peoples shoes and think "How would I like it if someone said that to me?" thats the lesson of life, everyone is a noob at one point.


I'm not going to be dragged into this anymore because I don't see the need for me to justify myself doing the right thing. so yeah, consider other peoples feelings and enjoy TF's. thats it.

No Death for Prowl wrote:I have never seen an episode of the Cybertron TV show, but my opinion on the toy line after purchasing 6 of the figures and looking at the pictures of most is:

It is a pretty solid line with seemingly few figures that are terrible, but there are also few "must haves" in this line. The different planet angle of the storyline(which I confess, I don't completely understand) seemed interesting, but the "planet keys" concept comes across as a cheap gimmick just for the sake of having a gimmick.

I think the strength of the line is in the larger classes, such as Primus and Galaxy Force Prime, but the real meat and potatoes of any line is in the voyager and deluxe classes, and I think Cybertron comes up short in this department. Again, I don't want to make definitive statements on figures I don't own, but the fact that I haven't been compelled to buy many of them even when presented with the opportunity tells me something.

I also found the alt modes of many figures to be too ambitious in futuristic designs to the point where many alt modes don't seem to reseble much at all. The transformations on the figures that I do have seem to range from boring(Nemisis Breaker, Skywarp) to needlessly difficult without really being all that complex(Smokescreen's arms).

All in all, not a bad line, but not one that I really regret missing out on for the most part.

I've dipped in and out of the TV show, and found it almost enjoyable when they were able to keep the bloody kids off screen for more than thirty seconds. Sadly, this didn't happen that often.

As for the toys, I found the smaller toys were better. The Voyagers and above were, for me, often ruined by needless light and sound gimmicks that took up large amounts of space. As a result, the toys were often too simple for their size. Whilst the smaller toys didn't have this issue, the need to fit a Cyber Key gimmick to everything did create it's own problems. Downshit would have been better if his chest could have folded away more. As it is, his gimmick means his arms barely reach bast his chest. Ransack GTS, Hard Top and Swindle, whilst good figures, were saddled with stupidly oversized guns because their guns housed a gimmick that really wasn't worth the payoff.

Octane: I don't want to be rude, but if you don't want to get involved in something, don't post about it. Ok, so I tried to make a funny and it didn't go down well. I'm sorry. On the other hand, I've not actually seen anyone yet who does think that Cybertron is the best series since G1. If I'm wrong, fair enough. But based on my experience (which is all any of us can go on), I'm not wrong.

Sorry guys , I just realized this was in the toys forum.
Oops! I need to watch that.

?: Best toy line since G1?
Duh, Alternators. Seriously, those things are awesome.
After that, I'm going with the ehobby stuff as an ongoing line
as runner up.

Still not Cybertron, although I like some of them.

Sledge wrote:

No Death for Prowl wrote:I have never seen an episode of the Cybertron TV show, but my opinion on the toy line after purchasing 6 of the figures and looking at the pictures of most is:

It is a pretty solid line with seemingly few figures that are terrible, but there are also few "must haves" in this line. The different planet angle of the storyline(which I confess, I don't completely understand) seemed interesting, but the "planet keys" concept comes across as a cheap gimmick just for the sake of having a gimmick.

I think the strength of the line is in the larger classes, such as Primus and Galaxy Force Prime, but the real meat and potatoes of any line is in the voyager and deluxe classes, and I think Cybertron comes up short in this department. Again, I don't want to make definitive statements on figures I don't own, but the fact that I haven't been compelled to buy many of them even when presented with the opportunity tells me something.

I also found the alt modes of many figures to be too ambitious in futuristic designs to the point where many alt modes don't seem to reseble much at all. The transformations on the figures that I do have seem to range from boring(Nemisis Breaker, Skywarp) to needlessly difficult without really being all that complex(Smokescreen's arms).

All in all, not a bad line, but not one that I really regret missing out on for the most part.

I've dipped in and out of the TV show, and found it almost enjoyable when they were able to keep the bloody kids off screen for more than thirty seconds. Sadly, this didn't happen that often.

As for the toys, I found the smaller toys were better. The Voyagers and above were, for me, often ruined by needless light and sound gimmicks that took up large amounts of space. As a result, the toys were often too simple for their size. Whilst the smaller toys didn't have this issue, the need to fit a Cyber Key gimmick to everything did create it's own problems. Downshit would have been better if his chest could have folded away more. As it is, his gimmick means his arms barely reach bast his chest. Ransack GTS, Hard Top and Swindle, whilst good figures, were saddled with stupidly oversized guns because their guns housed a gimmick that really wasn't worth the payoff.

Octane: I don't want to be rude, but if you don't want to get involved in something, don't post about it. Ok, so I tried to make a funny and it didn't go down well. I'm sorry. On the other hand, I've not actually seen anyone yet who does think that Cybertron is the best series since G1. If I'm wrong, fair enough. But based on my experience (which is all any of us can go on), I'm not wrong.

Sledge didn’t think he said anything wrong and I don’t think he’s said anything wrong, massmachine however DID say something wrong.

massmachine wrote:just looking for opinions on the mattter.Next time you start a thread ill be the first one to say something smartass

And he sent a rather nasty little PM from what I have heard.

Guys, we've settled the issue, no blood was spilt, apologies were exchanged, etc. We were both dicks. Can we drop it and move on?

Best toyline since G1? Has to be Classics. Great updates of old characters, without the convoluted transformations of the Alternators line. Cybertron didn't have enough "wow! Gotta have it!" figures for me.

Sledge wrote:Guys, we've settled the issue, no blood was spilt, apologies were exchanged, etc. We were both dicks. Can we drop it and move on?

Best toyline since G1? Has to be Classics. Great updates of old characters, without the convoluted transformations of the Alternators line. Cybertron didn't have enough "wow! Gotta have it!" figures for me.

Yeah, you’re right, and I agree with you 100%, classics truly is the best line since G1, cant wait for 08.

Cartoonwise, it is no worse than G1.

Toyline wise, Cybertron is the best overall transformers line there has ever been IMO.

So to an extent, yes, I do agree with the point of this thread.

Cartoonwise? just ok. bloody kids though. i agree with Sledge, if those kids weren't at almost every eppy, the series might be a whole lot better.

Toywise? Rockin' aweseeeeeme. best Prime out of the 3 IMHO. best selection of deluxes and scouts since Energon. Got the most posable toys out of the 3 also, plus the plastic quality beats that of the Classics (sorry, Rodimus) and the Movie line.

I've been bored to death by the Unicron trilogy (although it was visually okay). Watching Megatron go "HAHAHAHAHHAHA" and listen to Kicker whine for 30 minutes (not even mentionning the poor voice acting), no thanks. G1 had the best stories. Animated looks promising. Never cared for Beast Wars or Beast Machines.

THAT SHOW IS LAME. I hope TF:Animated is better.