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Shinobicon wrote:HEY, HEY, HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is the toy out in the UK cos i went to buy my first TF movie figure on 7.08.07 well yesterday at Toys r us and they didn't have it. Yer I no it may be out of stock but no=one I no has seen it anywhere. Please if someone sees this toy and lives in the UK tell me where you saw it.

I doubt you are likely to find him anywhere but at Argos in the two pack, since TRU seems useless when it comes to keeping up to date stock, at least in my area they are.

Im not sure if its even availiable as a single toy anywhere else in the uk yet....

does anyone now if the 08 camaro has problems like the classic camaro, I have the f-ed up version of the classic and the only 08 I could get my hands on was a fast action battler. and I REALLY need to fix my classic camaro

The voyager Prime/BB is the 76 camero isn't it?

PON wrote:Does anyone now if the 08 Camaro has problems like the classic Camaro? I have the f-ed up version of the classic and the only 08 I could get my hands on was a Fast Action Battler. And I REALLY need to fix my classic Camaro

I've had mine for about four months now, and so far, it's a really solid toy. I can't find any major faults on it other than a shoddy paint job.

BTW, it looks like Target is slowly getting BB back in stock here in the Valley. I managed to score two this week.

PON wrote:does anyone now if the 08 camaro has problems like the classic camaro, I have the f-ed up version of the classic and the only 08 I could get my hands on was a fast action battler. and I REALLY need to fix my classic camaro

First off, no, unless like mine the automorph mis aligns it's gears and doesn't work full ( which is easily fixed be taking apart the body and rebuilding it).
And, what is wrong wit 77 BB?

Sherade wrote:

PON wrote:does anyone now if the 08 camaro has problems like the classic camaro, I have the f-ed up version of the classic and the only 08 I could get my hands on was a fast action battler. and I REALLY need to fix my classic camaro

First off, no, unless like mine the automorph mis aligns it's gears and doesn't work full ( which is easily fixed be taking apart the body and rebuilding it).
And, what is wrong wit 77 BB?

many things, his duck feet and painted windows being 2

Sherade wrote:And, what is wrong with 77 BB?

1. Front end Automorph doesn't always work. You have to push the button firmly. Many people tried to force the front end to fold, only to end up breaking it. Also, the front end components do not lock properly in car mode; thus resulting in numerous gaps.

2. Clown feet. Hasbro/Takara should've used the same leg Automorph as the one used on the Concept version, or at least something that doesn't look like BB's wearing flippers.

3. Weak joints. There have been reports of BB's legs falling off the hips.

4. Painted windows. Now how come the Japanese can get clear windows when we can't?

5. Half-assed paint job. The car mode's supposed to have numerous scratches, rust marks, dents and some layers of Bondo, not random burn marks. If McFarlane Toys can get away with having their action figures dirty, why not Hasbro?

areaseven wrote:

Sherade wrote:And, what is wrong with 77 BB?

1. Front end Automorph doesn't always work. You have to push the button firmly. Many people tried to force the front end to fold, only to end up breaking it. Also, the front end components do not lock properly in car mode; thus resulting in numerous gaps.

2. Clown feet. Hasbro/Takara should've used the same leg Automorph as the one used on the Concept version, or at least something that doesn't look like BB's wearing flippers.

3. Weak joints. There have been reports of BB's legs falling off the hips.

4. Painted windows. Now how come the Japanese can get clear windows when we can't?

5. Half-assed paint job. The car mode's supposed to have numerous scratches, rust marks, dents and some layers of Bondo, not random burn marks. If McFarlane Toys can get away with having their action figures dirty, why not Hasbro?

So, you actually complain?
1. It's just your (and others) specific figure. I have had no problems, and the only agreeemnt is pressing it firmly, but that is to prevent accidental activation by a six year old who chucks it at stuff.
2. Get over it. I'd like to see how you'd have improved such a great toy. Te feet just make it more realistic if you ask me.
3. Either don't screw with his legs, or clear nail polish. Again, this depends o thspecific figure, mine only has a weird spring action if it goes out too far, and then it clicks back straight.
4. Hasbro is cheap. Besides, with the paint they pull, any clear parts would be lemon yellow and mismatched. Or, if you hate it that much, use Ebay.
5. Probably the only thing I agree with 100%. Not only is it crappy damage, but the stripes scratch off like a lottery ticket.

Sherade wrote:So, you actually complain?
1. It's just your (and others) specific figure. I have had no problems, and the only agreeemnt is pressing it firmly, but that is to prevent accidental activation by a six year old who chucks it at stuff.
2. Get over it. I'd like to see how you'd have improved such a great toy. Te feet just make it more realistic if you ask me.
3. Either don't screw with his legs, or clear nail polish. Again, this depends o thspecific figure, mine only has a weird spring action if it goes out too far, and then it clicks back straight.
4. Hasbro is cheap. Besides, with the paint they pull, any clear parts would be lemon yellow and mismatched. Or, if you hate it that much, use Ebay.
5. Probably the only thing I agree with 100%. Not only is it crappy damage, but the stripes scratch off like a lottery ticket.

Actually, I don't own one. My report's based on reviews posted by others. I skipped out on old BB when it came out because I preferred Concept BB.

Sherade wrote:

areaseven wrote:

Sherade wrote:And, what is wrong with 77 BB?

1. Front end Automorph doesn't always work. You have to push the button firmly. Many people tried to force the front end to fold, only to end up breaking it. Also, the front end components do not lock properly in car mode; thus resulting in numerous gaps.

2. Clown feet. Hasbro/Takara should've used the same leg Automorph as the one used on the Concept version, or at least something that doesn't look like BB's wearing flippers.

3. Weak joints. There have been reports of BB's legs falling off the hips.

4. Painted windows. Now how come the Japanese can get clear windows when we can't?

5. Half-assed paint job. The car mode's supposed to have numerous scratches, rust marks, dents and some layers of Bondo, not random burn marks. If McFarlane Toys can get away with having their action figures dirty, why not Hasbro?

So, you actually complain?
1. It's just your (and others) specific figure. I have had no problems, and the only agreeemnt is pressing it firmly, but that is to prevent accidental activation by a six year old who chucks it at stuff.
2. Get over it. I'd like to see how you'd have improved such a great toy. Te feet just make it more realistic if you ask me.
3. Either don't screw with his legs, or clear nail polish. Again, this depends o thspecific figure, mine only has a weird spring action if it goes out too far, and then it clicks back straight.
4. Hasbro is cheap. Besides, with the paint they pull, any clear parts would be lemon yellow and mismatched. Or, if you hate it that much, use Ebay.
5. Probably the only thing I agree with 100%. Not only is it crappy damage, but the stripes scratch off like a lottery ticket.

umm, if u watch the movie his feet look nothing like that. And the painted windos really ruin the look of the car if u ask me concept 4 the win!

the '77 was my favorite...until i picked up the '08 yesterday. the legs on the '08 (on mine) come off the waist really easily (loose ball joint) but the clear fingernail polish trick should fix it.

Mr.Bond007 wrote: umm, if u watch the movie his feet look nothing like that. And the painted windos really ruin the look of the car if u ask me concept 4 the win!

I never said movie accurate.
I meant it looks more realistic if it were to be a real full size transformer.
Trust me, I've seen the movie plenty of times.

Battlewagon wrote:the '77 was my favorite...until i picked up the '08 yesterday. the legs on the '08 (on mine) come off the waist really easily (loose ball joint) but the clear fingernail polish trick should fix it.

That's weird. Never happened with mine.

I've got em both and love em both. No problems with either. Actually I have 2 of the 77 mold and still no problems.

I love old cars and as soon as I first saw a 77 Camaro TF I had to have him.

The CC Bumble is great, great transformation too.

Both great TF's.

I've got to admit though, as a painter and artist, I love watching people complain about the paint job on a 9 dollar toy.

Packaging, shipping, materials, store markup, etc. and we still get kickass toys for around 10 bucks. I would much rather repaint them myself then pay 20 bucks for one of these toys with a "better" paint job.

it's just funny, it's a 10 dollar toy that comes off an assembly line where it's probably assembled and painted by someone making a dollar an hour and has to paint 100 a day. And people expect artistry? lol, oh man.

Complaining about paint on a $500. collectible I can see. A 10 dollar toy? meh.

Personally I find I like the toys even better when I've spent a little bit of time detailing or fixing them up a little bit. You get to know them better, lol.

Malikon wrote:I've got em both and love em both. No problems with either. Actually I have 2 of the 77 mold and still no problems.

I love old cars and as soon as I first saw a 77 Camaro TF I had to have him.

The CC Bumble is great, great transformation too.

Both great TF's.

I've got to admit though, as a painter and artist, I love watching people complain about the paint job on a 9 dollar toy.

Packaging, shipping, materials, store markup, etc. and we still get kickass toys for around 10 bucks. I would much rather repaint them myself then pay 20 bucks for one of these toys with a "better" paint job.

it's just funny, it's a 10 dollar toy that comes off an assembly line where it's probably assembled and painted by someone making a dollar an hour and has to paint 100 a day. And people expect artistry? lol, oh man.

Complaining about paint on a $500. collectible I can see. A 10 dollar toy? meh.

Personally I find I like the toys even better when I've spent a little bit of time detailing or fixing them up a little bit. You get to know them better, lol.

Sooo True

Malikon wrote:I've got em both and love em both. No problems with either. Actually I have 2 of the 77 mold and still no problems.

I love old cars and as soon as I first saw a 77 Camaro TF I had to have him.

The CC Bumble is great, great transformation too.

Both great TF's.

I've got to admit though, as a painter and artist, I love watching people complain about the paint job on a 9 dollar toy.

Packaging, shipping, materials, store markup, etc. and we still get kickass toys for around 10 bucks. I would much rather repaint them myself then pay 20 bucks for one of these toys with a "better" paint job.

it's just funny, it's a 10 dollar toy that comes off an assembly line where it's probably assembled and painted by someone making a dollar an hour and has to paint 100 a day. And people expect artistry? lol, oh man.

Complaining about paint on a $500. collectible I can see. A 10 dollar toy? meh.

Personally I find I like the toys even better when I've spent a little bit of time detailing or fixing them up a little bit. You get to know them better, lol.

it's mainly the fact that some deluxe tf have a lot more detail on them then 77 bb

Malikon wrote:it's just funny, it's a 10 dollar toy that comes off an assembly line where it's probably assembled and painted by someone making a dollar an hour and has to paint 100 a day. And people expect artistry? lol, oh man.

Wow, someone is overstereotypical. There's no way they are hand painted. It's called robotics.

Mr.Bond007 wrote: it's mainly the fact that some deluxe tf have a lot more detail on them then 77 bb

77 BB has detail, it's just subtle. Have you seen the sculpted details in the underside of the roof? Behind his legs in bot mode.

Stuff really jumps out alot more when these toys are repainted. A lot of the movie line toys have a bunch of almost hidden textures and details that really don't jump out unless you repaint them. At least in my experience.

for example:



I still like both BB's very much. I'm looking forward to Cliffjumper too, it's a cool mold.