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Oh, I'm not saying that there aren't any crap American cars. It's just that he's trying to act like his opinions on ALL American automobiles are fact. That attitude always gets to me, regardless of what the topic is. If he wanted to say that he THINKS they are all crap, that's fine. Whatever. But, like I said, he's trying to say it like it's a fact & not an opinion.

You say Pinto, I say Yugo.

What Cyclonus is saying is especially true considerring that some of the examples Sonray has given haven't been in production for over 20 years.

Sonray, your argument is an "us against them" argument, and that just doesn't hold any water. There are American cars built better than many European and Japanese cars, there are European cars built better than many American and Japanese cars, and there are Japanese cars built better than many European and Amarican cars. On top of that, especially today, most European, Japanese and American companies have formerd parnerships or are owned outright by the same parent companies. Therefore, their level of quality is roughly equal. It then all comes down to personal preference, and that is neither right or wrong. I prefer American made vehicles, particularly Ford trucks. That is what I choose to drive. I belive they make the best trucks. My grandfather worked for GM, and that is all he would own—GM cars. Call it company loyalty.

You cannot pass your opinion off as absolute fact, especially making such broad, overreaching statements.

His name is Kup? I thought it was **** piece.

it dose look like kup. the colors match up almost perfect.

That SSR looks too new to be Kup to me. The colour's a good match, though.

Not all American cars handle badly. Some handle better than some European models. It's like most things: there's the good and there's the bad.

I've never known anyone to complain of a Trans-Am handling badly, though. I like the way muscle cars look, too. I prefer them over most cars apart from the Riviera boattail and cars that predate the nineteen-forties.

Tramp wrote:What Cyclonus is saying is especially true considerring that some of the examples Sonray has given haven't been in production for over 20 years.

Sonray, your argument is an "us against them" argument, and that just doesn't hold any water. There are American cars built better than many European and Japanese cars, there are European cars built better than many American and Japanese cars, and there are Japanese cars built better than many European and Amarican cars. On top of that, especially today, most European, Japanese and American companies have formerd parnerships or are owned outright by the same parent companies. Therefore, their level of quality is roughly equal. It then all comes down to personal preference, and that is neither right or wrong. I prefer American made vehicles, particularly Ford trucks. That is what I choose to drive. I belive they make the best trucks. My grandfather worked for GM, and that is all he would own—GM cars. Call it company loyalty.

You cannot pass your opinion off as absolute fact, especially making such broad, overreaching statements.

I knew we could count on tramp.
At least he Drive's a ford.
Go tramp.

Uh... guys. Those concept trucks are too futuristic for Kupp. Remember this is year 2007. Not year 7002.

mabey this is it were a different colour

dalekblaster wrote:mabey this is it were a different colour

For Kupp?

I don't see it for Kup.

The front looks good. Possible. But the rear have to be changed.

i love the car

Is it possible to convert this into a pickup?

Sort of like the old Kupp thing.

i have no i idea what you are talking about, but you could probably attach a trailer to the back, lol

I mean, just like the old G1 Kupp, a futuristic pickup.

The front of your vehicle looks great. The rear half modified into a pickup bed will fit Kupp nicely.

oh right, sound good to me, but i think the car in a teal green, would be great!

actully i like that spory el camero seems to fit much better

i see hot rod more something like this as long the add that v wing on his in car mode

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Rich-Galvan/Red-Lamborghini-Print-C10364831.jpeg


or this

http://www.corvette-troy.com/VettesandSuchForSale_files/1980-Red-Corvette.jpg

Sonray wrote:Best truck is a Toyota Hilux as far as reliablity goes. They are almost literally indestructable. Watch the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk

And as for american ford trucks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7oU2KT1T4

And this is from the best car show in the world, so go figure.

I thought you were from the Jeremy Clarkson school of thought. The way you were talking about cars reminded me exactly of him.

I like the Nissan Titan better.

I can see Kup as a Camion.

dragons wrote:

or this

Sideswipe? Diaclone Tracks?

Too bad its not an El Camino which more closely resembles Kup's alt mode.

What is El Camino?

It's car made by Chevy which had a pick-up bed for a back end. Here's a pic of a 1965 El Camino:

Tramp wrote:It's car made by Chevy which had a pick-up bed for a back end. Here's a pic of a 1965 El Camino:

Finally, a pickup!

Not bad for an old-timer.