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News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:36 pm

Well, we know that Transformers weren't Transformers first (Diaclone, Microman etc).

The toys came first and were given Western names etc, for the cartoon.

I wanted to know if they were any characters that were cartoon characters FIRST, then toys?

What characters were created by the Western and later made toys of?

by **Cyber-Kun** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:49 pm

Everything movie and post-movie

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:26 pm

hmmm...the toys came first then the cartoon. I have a Diaclone Jazz, which on his box was labeled as Porsche 935 Turbo. The figure looks identical to the G1 but no stickers or rub-symbols. In terms of the names for the figures, the names would vary with the various countries.

Some of the figures were changed for the cartoon

Sunstreaker--red & a police car
Hoist--was red
Ironhide--was black in the Diaclone
Skids--red or black rather than blue
Sideswipe came in both red and yellow & a police car version

Some of the figures were unchanged
Prowl
Jazz
Hound
Mirage
Optimus
Ratchet
Wheeljack

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:49 pm

eh? i thought ultra magnus was an existing diaclone or something already

I gues s some of the other bots like springer seem sort of "newish", I guess they were cartoon first, toy later?

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:06 pm

you are correct...it was something that I have overlooked. :oops:

by **microclone** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:24 pm

tf that were from microman line:megatron, soundwave, ravage, laserbeak, frenzy, rumble, bumblebee, brawn, huffer, swerve,windcharger, cliffjumper, hubcap, perceptor, blaster.

from diaclone: the seeker mould, the core first year autobots, ultra magnus, blitzwing, insecticons, devastator, dinobots.

from other toylines:delux insecticons, skylynx, omega supreme, jetfire, whirl roadbuster.

not exhaustive im sure!! astrotrain and octane were possibly to be diaclone designs that missed becoming diaclones!

News Credits: 4 · by **SnapTrap** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:49 pm

^^ add Reflector to the Micoman list...

by **Rodimus Primal** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:54 pm

Wasn't Wheeljack very different with a completely different head and called Marlboor? Swoop and Astrotrain should have been released in their Diaclone colors.

by **Fussion** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:04 pm

Cascadia wrote:hmmm...the toys came first then the cartoon. I have a Diaclone Jazz, which on his box was labeled as Porsche 935 Turbo. The figure looks identical to the G1 but no stickers or rub-symbols. In terms of the names for the figures, the names would vary with the various countries.

Some of the figures were changed for the cartoon

Sunstreaker--red & a police car
Hoist--was red
Ironhide--was black in the Diaclone
Skids--red or black rather than blue
Sideswipe came in both red and yellow & a police car version

Some of the figures were unchanged
Prowl
Jazz
Hound
Mirage
Optimus
Ratchet
Wheeljack

Would Sunstreaker be considered as Red Alert then?

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:24 pm

this is the police version of the Twins

In terms of Wheeljack, there were two versions of him. One had a different head. I am not sure about the other version.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:52 pm

microclone wrote:
from other toylines:delux insecticons, skylynx, omega supreme, jetfire, whirl roadbuster.

You forgot Shockwave.

But to answer the OP question...There were a number of characters to never get a toy at all in G1 but has since gotten made like Arcee and Elita 1.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:54 am

How many of the Hasbro-original designs used die-cast? I know Hot Rod had metal feet and Kup had metal feet and a metal torso but were there any others? Blurr? Springer?