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robofreak wrote:

Starscream_dude wrote:I've gotten Two Movie Bonecrushers and they have broken.

DAMMIT!

I read your threads about that. That was'nt QC, that was you being stupid.

Forgive me for my stupidness.

Starscream_dude wrote:

robofreak wrote:

Starscream_dude wrote:I've gotten Two Movie Bonecrushers and they have broken.

DAMMIT!

I read your threads about that. That was'nt QC, that was you being stupid.

Forgive me for my stupidness.

You are forgiven.

Now go! And swap limbs no more!

I blame the poor plastic quality to a great conspiracy hatched up by the enemies of America to continue the USA's addiction to foreign petrol products. If they keep on releasing shody products, the American consumers will have no choice but to keep buying replacement parts..........hence the infinite cycle of buying more petroleum based products (i.e. oil to the masses........that's where ABS and PVC plastics are sourced from)

These are all real tear jerkers...I feel fortunate that my Animated Ratchet's left leg is the only problem I have. I figure the weather up here makes the plastic shrink, and most loose joint problems dissappear.

The problem with my Ratchet's leg is that it pops off at the thigh. It's quite avoidable,but still an issue.

I wouldn't say they've failed us (especially not me) but they do need work. The paint issues alone are unforgivable at this point. (It started with TF07 figures, and continues through Animated and really shows in Universe.)

Then you have joint problems (like Powerglide's hips) and figures actually have plastic crumble.

At this point, that's just ridiculous. I don't have high hopes for the next waves of figures either.

I still wouldn't switch to Takara only, however. 1.) Too expensive. 2.) Can't pick and choose the paint you like (and their QC in that department is crap.) 3.) Missing accessories and/or body parts...or mis-assembled bodies.

No thanks. I'll stick to Hasbro, because at least you get the figure, and complete, and if need be, you can correct some of the problems if not all.

Well, I went against my original words of Ultra Magnus being my last Animated figure. I found swoop today and decided to buy him.

All I can say is that I am dissapointed. I don't have any of the bad head joint problems. My complaints are in it's size and lack of poseablility. The figure literally feels like a few toothpicks glued together. It's so top heavy, that he can only stand still and the mace is useless. Also, the arms are'nt very poseable. I could care less about Universe Galvatron not being a voyager class figure, but Swoop really needed it. They were so obsessed with making the Dinobots in scale with each other that they ruined the potential Swoop had.

I'm also not happy that he's essentially a scout class figure that they're trying to pass off as a deluxe. He's freaking microscopic compared to other deluxes.

robofreak wrote:Well, I went against my original words of Ultra Magnus being my last Animated figure. I found swoop today and decided to buy him.

All I can say is that I am dissapointed. I don't have any of the bad head joint problems. My complaints are in it's size and lack of poseablility.

I'm also not happy that he's essentially a scout class figure that they're trying to pass off as a deluxe. He's freaking microscopic compared to other deluxes.

I can understand about the joints, but complaining about his size? Did you expect him to magically grow in front of you? Didn't you see him there in the package at the store? Being pissed about the size of the toy is something you could deal with before making the purchase. Just don't buy it.

I think Swoop is great, and his poseability really good. tight joints, everything for me.

Barrelass wrote:

robofreak wrote:Well, I went against my original words of Ultra Magnus being my last Animated figure. I found swoop today and decided to buy him.

All I can say is that I am dissapointed. I don't have any of the bad head joint problems. My complaints are in it's size and lack of poseablility.

I'm also not happy that he's essentially a scout class figure that they're trying to pass off as a deluxe. He's freaking microscopic compared to other deluxes.

I can understand about the joints, but complaining about his size? Did you expect him to magically grow in front of you? Didn't you see him there in the package at the store? Being pissed about the size of the toy is something you could deal with before making the purchase. Just don't buy it.

I think Swoop is great, and his poseability really good. tight joints, everything for me.

that's funny. reminded me of sea monkeys for whatever reason.

For the most part, my TF purchases have been relatively OK. There was a small problem with the Offroad Ironhide I bought (with one of the front truck pieces being looser than the other), but I just attributed that to its status as a repaint. And of course Brawl's loose arms are an issue, but I let it slide.

Then I bought a Universe Onslaught, and found that one of the forked grill things (which I assume are supposed to be crowd control barriers) was loose. I'm not that pissed about it, because I rarely ever transform my figures back to vehicle mode, especially if it seems likely I'll break it in doing so.

robofreak wrote:Well, I went against my original words of Ultra Magnus being my last Animated figure. I found swoop today and decided to buy him.

All I can say is that I am dissapointed. I don't have any of the bad head joint problems. My complaints are in it's size and lack of poseablility. The figure literally feels like a few toothpicks glued together. It's so top heavy, that he can only stand still and the mace is useless. Also, the arms are'nt very poseable. I could care less about Universe Galvatron not being a voyager class figure, but Swoop really needed it. They were so obsessed with making the Dinobots in scale with each other that they ruined the potential Swoop had.

I'm also not happy that he's essentially a scout class figure that they're trying to pass off as a deluxe. He's freaking microscopic compared to other deluxes.

I have to disagree with you on pretty much everything there. I think he has great posabililty, is a nice size, and is overall very well designed. He's one of my favorite figures.

Barrelass wrote:

robofreak wrote:Well, I went against my original words of Ultra Magnus being my last Animated figure. I found swoop today and decided to buy him.

All I can say is that I am dissapointed. I don't have any of the bad head joint problems. My complaints are in it's size and lack of poseablility.

I'm also not happy that he's essentially a scout class figure that they're trying to pass off as a deluxe. He's freaking microscopic compared to other deluxes.

I can understand about the joints, but complaining about his size? Did you expect him to magically grow in front of you? Didn't you see him there in the package at the store? Being pissed about the size of the toy is something you could deal with before making the purchase. Just don't buy it.

I think Swoop is great, and his poseability really good. tight joints, everything for me.

When I looked at the figure in the package, I thought it would end up being the kind of figure that is a good deal larger in robot mode and just folds up into a real small size. There are a bunch of figures like that so I thought that was the case with Swoop. I got him for $7.77 so it's hard to complain. What bugs me though is the fact that he has 1/3 the plastic any of the other deluxes made so far. Most of that plastic is in his torso and wings which makes him very top heavy.

If they would have made him a voyager class figure, I think they would have done a better job at addressing the weight issue, as no matter how you pose him, the wings will drag him down. The arms also leave something to be desired. The legs are awesome poseability wise, but the arms seem like they're an after thought in the overall design.

Wow, considering some of the problems listed on this discussion, I've been really luck (knock on wood).
As for boycotting Hasbro, forgive me, but I'm sure their trembling in their boots. I'd rather put up with crappy transformers than none at all. Besides they'll hear about at Botcon (although not from me because I'm too poor to go to Botcon)
Also you might just try sending a letter. A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I bought a shappy lightsaber, mailed them a letter and they sent me a new one. Something tells me they aren't that caring anymore but who knows.

If everyone who has a complaint makes a complaint (email them, it isn't hard) they'll have to take notice.

Mykltron wrote:If everyone who has a complaint makes a complaint (email them, it isn't hard) they'll have to take notice.

You're funny!

In all seriousness, as long as the cash is coming in, they're not going to care about a couple of hundred issues a year.

Simple solution for US residents as I have stated before. Save your receipts and exchange ones you get that have bad QC. Conversely, if the mold itself is deffective don't buy the toy. Bam!!

Mykltron wrote:If everyone who has a complaint makes a complaint (email them, it isn't hard) they'll have to take notice.

Within the last 2 months, I've sent close to 40 emails, not one reply. They don't care.

TheMuffin wrote: Hasbro gets no more of my money until I see some kind of build quality overhaul on their ****. This is the last time I pay full price for knock off quality on a licensed product from them.

I feel your pain Muffin, I have posted a few threads on how aggravated I am about paint app quality as of the movie line.

It is a shame since during BW and the Armada Trilogy you could pretty much grab any fig off the shelf and be assured the QC was up to snuff.

The recent issues with hasbro's QC has severely curbed my buying habits as well, it took me FOREVER to find an animated soundwave with decent paint apps, I dont know who they have painting those but they must have the shakes. Overspray and splatter have become WAAY too common.

I do agree, that sometime it seems that Hasbro corrects some of the issues in later waves of the same toys, but we as collectors should not have to take this into consideration.

I always site Mcfarlane Toys, I know these are not aimed at the same audience, but would it not be amazing to have a transformer line done in partnership with Todd? I cannot imagine the mold and paint quality, it would be off the charts.

Even if they just used his paint application workers, I would be thrilled.

Are you guys returning these defective toys for a refund or a replacement? If Hasbro starts getting a boatload of returns from retailers they'll take notice.

Seibertron wrote:

El Duque wrote:I don't know if would convert to Takara. I've always felt their supposed higher standard of QC was a myth. If your going to buy Henkei figures all your going to get is a different paint job on the same base figure. I have to assume the TFU and Henkei figures come from the same factories, the molds and assembly lines are already there. All they do is add a few chrome parts, paint them differently, and put them in a different packages. Of course that's an assumption on my part.

It is my understanding that they come from different factories, as Hasbro has stated at previous Botcons as the reason why color differences happen on some figures such as Vector Prime.

Takara has their own QC issues and has always had their own QC issues. It is indeed a myth, in my opinion, that the quality of their figures are better than Hasbro's. The only thing Takara does different is add some different paint apps. That's it. I imagine a lot of the owners of Henkei Thundercracker and Skywarp figures could attest to the quality control issues with those figures.

I have also oddly been very fortunate with the QC on most of my Hasbro figures. I have yet to encounter the "sticky paint" syndrome that some have mentioned. The only loose joints I've seen recently have been on some of the early prototypes that I've bought and on some of my Takara figures.

I'm really curious now to bust open my Henkei Sideswipe figure to see how the figure compares to the Hasbro version. I am already more impressed with Hasbro's simply because it comes with the backpack piece which the Henkei version does not come with.

Hey if you do will you take pictures of Henkei Sideswipe? I've heard that the motor/backpack connects to the pistol somehow (making it look more like his shoulder cannon) but I can't for the life of me figure out how it's supposed to clip on.

o.k. when i got my sideswip2.0 i pulled him out of the box looked at him and started to transform him. when it came to his head his head came up as normal and when i moved him his head was extremely loose and i looked at his head for a few minutes and i found out that the screw that held his head together, the screw was put in lopsided so it was put in wrong.THE F**KING SCREW WAS PUT IN WRONG! i will say it again, THE F***ING SCREW WAS PUT IN WRONG!!! and when i got the screw out i tried to put in right but that failed. so i super glued it together. and when i got prowl as every one knows his paint is f**ked up. also when i got my TFA: ratchet his leg was falling off. yes it is a simple fix but it pisses me off! i paid for a toy! i did not pay to fix a toy! the same goes for classics ironhide! it took me three days to get him the way i wanted him! THREE DAMN DAYS!!!! AND THE PLASTIC BLOWS ASS!!! STRESS MARKS ARE ALREADY SOWING UP ON CLASSICS SUNSTREAKER AND SIDESWIPE!!!! AND WHEN I GOT MOVIE CLIFFJUMPER HIS SHOULDER PADS DO NOT STAY IN PLACE, AND TFA: BLACKARACHNIA IS A PAIN TO STAND UP! but the lock down problem with his legs has not happened to me. THIS PISSES ME OFF! i have little patience for Hasbro right now. my temper is thin.

robofreak wrote:

Barrelass wrote:

robofreak wrote:Well, I went against my original words of Ultra Magnus being my last Animated figure. I found swoop today and decided to buy him.

All I can say is that I am dissapointed. I don't have any of the bad head joint problems. My complaints are in it's size and lack of poseablility.

I'm also not happy that he's essentially a scout class figure that they're trying to pass off as a deluxe. He's freaking microscopic compared to other deluxes.

I can understand about the joints, but complaining about his size? Did you expect him to magically grow in front of you? Didn't you see him there in the package at the store? Being pissed about the size of the toy is something you could deal with before making the purchase. Just don't buy it.

I think Swoop is great, and his poseability really good. tight joints, everything for me.

When I looked at the figure in the package, I thought it would end up being the kind of figure that is a good deal larger in robot mode and just folds up into a real small size. There are a bunch of figures like that so I thought that was the case with Swoop. I got him for $7.77 so it's hard to complain. What bugs me though is the fact that he has 1/3 the plastic any of the other deluxes made so far. Most of that plastic is in his torso and wings which makes him very top heavy.

If they would have made him a voyager class figure, I think they would have done a better job at addressing the weight issue, as no matter how you pose him, the wings will drag him down. The arms also leave something to be desired. The legs are awesome poseability wise, but the arms seem like they're an after thought in the overall design.

I'd have to disagree. I don't find Swoop to be particularly different in size to say Blackarachnia or Oilslick. He's taller than Slag and he's meant to be thin and wiry.

Maybe you have some loose joints on your figure as mine is not in any way top heavy, the wings don't drag him down and he's one of the more poseable figures (you have to rotate the arms around in robot mode so their joints are facing the right way).

I love the look of him too, the excellent metallic paint apps, his head sculpt, cape, collar and overall style are great. He is actually about my 3rd favourite Animated figure. My only complaint is that his head pops off easily (but it's very poseable).

Now, Slag/Snarl I could understand people having problems with. Legs don't lock together and has crap all poseability (head sculpt is total win though, looks like the bottom 2/3rds of the autobot symbol too.

Anyway, if you were going to get one animated dinobot figure, Swoop is the best in my opinion.