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Overall we have had lots of talk about the movie but I'm not sure if we have had this question asked before.

If you were the director of Transformers how would you start the film... what will it be about.

Example : Michael Bay set it out all on the Allspark, and the war for it.

Bumbled wrote:Overall we have had lots of talk about the movie but I'm not sure if we have had this question asked before.

If you were the director of Transformers how would you start the film... what will it be about.

Example : Michael Bay set it out all on the Allspark, and the war for it.

I would started it with Bumblebee retrieving the AllSpark to the Autobots from Cybertron, because Megatron wants to keep it to himself. Than he delivers it to Optimus and Megatron tracks him and they go on a pursuit and they end up crashed on Earth millions of years ago.

As a concept the existing story isn't bad. There’s just too much nonsensical junk going on with etched glasses, hackers, squads of Marines, and secret government organisations that just didn't need such a focus. If I we making the movie Bumblebee would know about Sams glasses previous to meeting Sam, in fact that would be his reason for befriending him and their relationship would remain a focus of the movie, The rest of the Autobots would turn up earlier and do more than just goof around or fight/drive. I’d give them all the chance to say something other than 'hello' and maybe do something confirming their character/function in the team. I’d scrap Scorponok, the marines and the Hackers in favour of more scenes of fleshing out of Barricade, Blackout and frenzy’s characters as they search for Megatron/the Allspark. I’d also want to clearly show Starscream orchestrating this search rather than just turn up out of the blue. When it came to the final battle Sector Seven could easily take the place of the Marines and the Transformers would take centre stage.

Yours AK

Well, without going into how I would rewrite the first film, I would simply have the Decepticons plunder Earth for energy resources / Energon so that they could restore Cybertron. Thus, the Autobots would intervene to stop the Decepticons from ruining our planet.

I'd have the Decepticons less like monsters and more like a militia looking to set up a junta so that they could balance the Cybetronian socio-political climate. Of course, it would be their methods that would cause conflict and there would be some Decepticons that want all the power for themselves.

Plus, more characterisation and less sunsets.

Read Transformers I. Link in my sig. That's how I would do it. Currently working on the sequal as well.

Alex Kingdom wrote: nonsensical junk going on with etched glasses, hackers, squads of Marines, and secret government organisations that just didn't need such a focus.

Well if your on earth that is not junk. I reckon hackers and all that are cool gives Transformers more purposes and more action as a Movie.

It would start it with the background of many Decepticons such as Blackout, Bonecrusher, Devastator, Barricade, and Starscream. How they came to earth, and what were their motives, and well as their attempts to disguise as earth vehicles.

They did need a hell of deep characterization.

Bumbled wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote: nonsensical junk going on with etched glasses, hackers, squads of Marines, and secret government organisations that just didn't need such a focus.

Well if your on earth that is not junk. I reckon hackers and all that are cool gives Transformers more purposes and more action as a Movie.

Really? I personally thought it gave Transformers less focus, less purpose and less action on screen as much of the film was taken up by unnecessary nonsensical subplots like the Hackers, the Marines and Sector Seven. I'm not saying they shouldn't have been there (could have done without the Hackers subplot tho) but they took too much screentime away from what we came to see The Transformers.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Bumbled wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote: nonsensical junk going on with etched glasses, hackers, squads of Marines, and secret government organisations that just didn't need such a focus.

Well if your on earth that is not junk. I reckon hackers and all that are cool gives Transformers more purposes and more action as a Movie.

Really? I personally thought it gave Transformers less focus, less purpose and less action on screen as much of the film was taken up by unnecessary nonsensical subplots like the Hackers, the Marines and Sector Seven. I'm not saying they shouldn't have been there (could have done without the Hackers subplot tho) but they took too much screentime away from what we came to see The Transformers.

Yours AK

Yer I see what you mean now.

Sector Seven really took a lot of confusion and weirdness in the movie. Though they had to make some sort of Agency containing Megatron or The Allspark, they couldn't just find stuff like that on ground.

I would start it with a few Cybertronians, secretly plotting to take over the leadership from Prime. (Since, all the robots were depicted as originally belonging to one group called the Autobots, before the breakaway group was created, to be named the Decepticons.)

The plot was uncovered. Full civil war broke out. There was too much destruction. A lot of generic Autobots were being destroyed. However, many among them were also being revived by Prime, using the Allspark.

Now, Megatron focused on snatching the Allspark. A complicated fight scene ensued. Allspark was inadvertently hurled into space.

After much time had passed, Megatron was able to break free from the thick of the fight, and pursued the Allspark.

And the rest is history.

Auto Bot wrote:I would start it with a few Cybertronians, secretly plotting to take over the leadership from Prime. (Since, all the robots were depicted as originally belonging to one group called the Autobots, before the breakaway group was created, to be named the Decepticons.)

The plot was uncovered. Full civil war broke out. There was too much destruction. A lot of generic Autobots were being destroyed. However, many among them were also being revived by Prime, using the Allspark.

Now, Megatron focused on snatching the Allspark. A complicated fight scene ensued. Allspark was inadvertently hurled into space.

After much time had passed, Megatron was able to break free from the thick of the fight, and pursued the Allspark.

And the rest is history.

So basically you'd have made the first movie the prequel? Cos all of that wouldn't have fit in the first film along with everything else. I'd probably have liked to see that however, the trouble with that being there would be virtually no humans at all in the movie and it probably wouldn't appeal the your average movie goer as well as the story they went with.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:I would start it with a few Cybertronians, secretly plotting to take over the leadership from Prime. (Since, all the robots were depicted as originally belonging to one group called the Autobots, before the breakaway group was created, to be named the Decepticons.)

The plot was uncovered. Full civil war broke out. There was too much destruction. A lot of generic Autobots were being destroyed. However, many among them were also being revived by Prime, using the Allspark.

Now, Megatron focused on snatching the Allspark. A complicated fight scene ensued. Allspark was inadvertently hurled into space.

After much time had passed, Megatron was able to break free from the thick of the fight, and pursued the Allspark.

And the rest is history.

So basically you'd have made the first movie the prequel? Cos all of that wouldn't have fit in the first film along with everything else. I'd probably have liked to see that however, the trouble with that being there would be virtually no humans at all in the movie and it probably wouldn't appeal the your average movie goer as well as the story they went with.

Yours AK

We can give that beginning scenes, say 15 or 20 minutes. Or a bit more. Just like the first Superman movie. Started out with a bit of story in the alien planet. Before moving to Earth scenes.

In the process, we can cut away a lot of unrelated human stuffs. Such as the small talks of military personnels aboard the chopper, the code-breaker thing, especially the black guy freaking out during interrogation bit.

I think it can all fit in. With room to spare. Over all, around 50-50 share of robot-human time.

Since Cybertronians will not be cars or airplanes, but generic robot protoforms, it will be like watching i-Robot for a few minutes, during the Cybertron scenes.

The only downside, will be the increased budget for CGI scenes.

Auto Bot wrote:In the process, we can cut away a lot of unrelated human stuffs. Such as the small talks of military personnels aboard the chopper, the code-breaker thing, especially the black guy freaking out during interrogation bit.

I think it can all fit in. With room to spare. Over all, around 50-50 share of robot-human time.

I could definatly live with that!

Yours AK

Auto Bot wrote:

especially the black guy freaking out during interrogation bit.

I reckon that was heaps funny when I saw that bit.

"In an Interrogation room they give you donuts so they can test whether your guilty or not. I ate all the donhuts so they'll no were not guilty."

*Guys come in* and then he nods his head lol. You have to see it too laugh.

oh I have the best idea for the movie but something's wrong with my keyboard so I'll post it later

Insurgent's Transformers I totally rocked... so I would gladly want the movie to be that way, instead of Michael Gay's sunset and clichês thing.

The Unicron Singularity wrote:Insurgent's Transformers I totally rocked... so I would gladly want the movie to be that way, instead of Michael Gay's sunset and clichês thing.

Why thank you. And you'll be pleased to know I have entered the final act on TF2. Excpect it to be up within a couple of weeks.

As for these protoforms, I hate them. These are the forms they had on Cybertron. Why would they have bodies that don't transform into something other than giant rocks on their home planet? That defeats the whole purpose of being Transformers. Likewise, this whole 'scan and then change' thing bugs me as well. It defeats the whole point of having a set alt mode. G1 and BW had the right idea for changing bodies. And for Cybertronian bodies. But there is no way I can believe that protoform Prime is the leader of an army. Far too spindly and powerless.

Insurgent wrote:

The Unicron Singularity wrote:Insurgent's Transformers I totally rocked... so I would gladly want the movie to be that way, instead of Michael Gay's sunset and clichês thing.

Why thank you. And you'll be pleased to know I have entered the final act on TF2. Excpect it to be up within a couple of weeks.

As for these protoforms, I hate them. These are the forms they had on Cybertron. Why would they have bodies that don't transform into something other than giant rocks on their home planet? That defeats the whole purpose of being Transformers. Likewise, this whole 'scan and then change' thing bugs me as well. It defeats the whole point of having a set alt mode. G1 and BW had the right idea for changing bodies. And for Cybertronian bodies. But there is no way I can believe that protoform Prime is the leader of an army. Far too spindly and powerless.

It was better than coming down in Spaceships... was it not?

Bumbled wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

The Unicron Singularity wrote:Insurgent's Transformers I totally rocked... so I would gladly want the movie to be that way, instead of Michael Gay's sunset and clichês thing.

Why thank you. And you'll be pleased to know I have entered the final act on TF2. Excpect it to be up within a couple of weeks.

As for these protoforms, I hate them. These are the forms they had on Cybertron. Why would they have bodies that don't transform into something other than giant rocks on their home planet? That defeats the whole purpose of being Transformers. Likewise, this whole 'scan and then change' thing bugs me as well. It defeats the whole point of having a set alt mode. G1 and BW had the right idea for changing bodies. And for Cybertronian bodies. But there is no way I can believe that protoform Prime is the leader of an army. Far too spindly and powerless.

It was better than coming down in Spaceships... was it not?

No it was not. What, I'm suppossed to believe they crash on their heads from orbit? That's just stupid. Ships would have been alot better. You could have had them smash through a large building or something on their way down, and have a beautiful action sequence, like the one I envisioned for my fanfic. They weren't exactly sneaky when they came down in their rock modes, and it could have been handled well. I'm supposed to believe they can survive the coldness of space, but a couple of chunks of ice can keep them offline?



BTW, The Unicron Singularity, check my sig.

Insurgent wrote:

Bumbled wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

The Unicron Singularity wrote:Insurgent's Transformers I totally rocked... so I would gladly want the movie to be that way, instead of Michael Gay's sunset and clichês thing.

Why thank you. And you'll be pleased to know I have entered the final act on TF2. Excpect it to be up within a couple of weeks.

As for these protoforms, I hate them. These are the forms they had on Cybertron. Why would they have bodies that don't transform into something other than giant rocks on their home planet? That defeats the whole purpose of being Transformers. Likewise, this whole 'scan and then change' thing bugs me as well. It defeats the whole point of having a set alt mode. G1 and BW had the right idea for changing bodies. And for Cybertronian bodies. But there is no way I can believe that protoform Prime is the leader of an army. Far too spindly and powerless.

It was better than coming down in Spaceships... was it not?

No it was not. What, I'm suppossed to believe they crash on their heads from orbit? That's just stupid. Ships would have been alot better. You could have had them smash through a large building or something on their way down, and have a beautiful action sequence, like the one I envisioned for my fanfic. They weren't exactly sneaky when they came down in their rock modes, and it could have been handled well. I'm supposed to believe they can survive the coldness of space, but a couple of chunks of ice can keep them offline?



BTW, The Unicron Singularity, check my sig.

Hurtling thru space wrapped in only a sheet of metal skin is just plain stupid. No lifeform can ever survive that. They're not blocks of ice or asteroids.

How fast were they traveling thru space? Must be close to the speed of light. Because they took such a short time to arrive, after Bumblebee sent them a "bat" signal.

A ton of metal ball arriving in our atmosphere at that kind of velocity, and then crash-landing on Earth? Should have been catastrophic, and surely should have wiped out all traces of life within several hundreds kilometers radius of the impact. And brought unimaginable environmental and ecological disaster to several thousand more kilometers of radius.

There's no way they can slow down in that squid ball form.

I would basically use the plot form the G1 pilot. Atuobots and Deceptioncs while in battle crash on earth, awaken millions of years later, take new forms, and the Autobots battle the Decepticons as they try to plunder earths resources. What I would have changed is having the location of the all spark being that of earth, rather, I would have made it located somewhere in our solar system.The Decepticons would then be plundering the resouces of earth to rebuild their ship in hopes of leaving earth and retreaving the all spark.

The opening scence could have been that of two space ships in combat, taking damage and then crashing onto earth. I wouldnt have any shots of the actual bots thems selfs yet, as I would like to have a sense of "wonder" and or "awe" perserved for when the bots actually make their first appearence/transformations. The back story involving their war back on cybertron and their being in our solar system in the first place could be delivered via flashback. Maybe a shot of a holograhic data recording that pans in and then fades into a full on cg rendered cybertron.

Well whatever it was I thought the movie made the biggest hit of Transformers even though some of us don't know it... yet!

Insurgent wrote:

Bumbled wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

The Unicron Singularity wrote:Insurgent's Transformers I totally rocked... so I would gladly want the movie to be that way, instead of Michael Gay's sunset and clichês thing.

Why thank you. And you'll be pleased to know I have entered the final act on TF2. Excpect it to be up within a couple of weeks.

As for these protoforms, I hate them. These are the forms they had on Cybertron. Why would they have bodies that don't transform into something other than giant rocks on their home planet? That defeats the whole purpose of being Transformers. Likewise, this whole 'scan and then change' thing bugs me as well. It defeats the whole point of having a set alt mode. G1 and BW had the right idea for changing bodies. And for Cybertronian bodies. But there is no way I can believe that protoform Prime is the leader of an army. Far too spindly and powerless.

It was better than coming down in Spaceships... was it not?

No it was not. What, I'm suppossed to believe they crash on their heads from orbit? That's just stupid. Ships would have been alot better. You could have had them smash through a large building or something on their way down, and have a beautiful action sequence, like the one I envisioned for my fanfic. They weren't exactly sneaky when they came down in their rock modes, and it could have been handled well. I'm supposed to believe they can survive the coldness of space, but a couple of chunks of ice can keep them offline?



BTW, The Unicron Singularity, check my sig.

dangnabbit, **** yeah! you put the TF2 on now? the awesomesauceness second parter of TF I?

The Unicron Singularity wrote:dangnabbit, **** yeah! you put the TF2 on now? the awesomesauceness second parter of TF I?

Aye. I went in 'The Zone' and rattled off the final act in one night. Enjoy!

But enjoy it well, TF3 is a loooong way off.

Auto Bot wrote:Hurtling thru space wrapped in only a sheet of metal skin is just plain stupid. No lifeform can ever survive that. They're not blocks of ice or asteroids.

How fast were they traveling thru space? Must be close to the speed of light. Because they took such a short time to arrive, after Bumblebee sent them a "bat" signal.

A ton of metal ball arriving in our atmosphere at that kind of velocity, and then crash-landing on Earth? Should have been catastrophic, and surely should have wiped out all traces of life within several hundreds kilometers radius of the impact. And brought unimaginable environmental and ecological disaster to several thousand more kilometers of radius.

There's no way they can slow down in that squid ball form.

Precisely why they should have used ships. They don't even have to be big ships, two or three decks would have been fine.

And just the hell did they see that 'Bat' signal all the way up there in space anyway?

I think the G1 story is still far better than the new Movie story.

Although the G1 story have some kinks to work out.