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News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:52 am

Inspired by Duke of Luns' thread Flawed Figures You Enjoy thread I thought I'd ask this:

Is there a Transformer that you consider PERFECT? No flaws of any kind whatsoever. You really wouldn't change a single thing about it nosiree because it fulfills EVERY desire you have for a TF.

My answer: no. What about you?

EDIT: I would like to point out that I'm asking for your own subjective unique opinion. This isn't a vote! No right or wrong answers.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:11 am

To me, perfection, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder, though unlike beauty, it's more rare.

That being said, no I don't think there's a perfect TF out there. I have a whole host of TF's that I think are awesome, but I can find some small flaw in each and every one of them.

News Credits: 7 · by **alldarker** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:33 am

I guess the answer to that would be 'of course not'. Perfection is practically unachievable in any product, no matter how much money is thrown at it, and like Burn mentions, there's a host of TF's that I think are awesome, but none is perfect.

I have been buying some Yamato Macross Version 2 (Perfect Transformation) Valkyrie's lately, and they do push the notion of perfection in a transforming toy though, I've noticed. Less charming than Transformers (to me), but the attention to details (paint job, features, transformation and all modes true to source material) is just incredible.

News Credits: 10 · by **gavinfuzzy** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:12 am

Scout class breacher. I really dig every part about him. But since i bought him as a stolenchinesetoy, he ha 2 left fist :-(

So does that still count? But i use his gun to cover that up and I guess he is still "perfect" IMO.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:07 am

As Burn said, it is in the eye of the beholder. And in the eyes of this beholder, RotF Leader Prime is as close to perfection as a Transformers toy has gotten so far. Both Leader Galaxy Convoy and Fire Convoy come very close, and not having owned or even held a Buster Prime I can't tell if it improves on the original, but RotF Leader Prime is as good as it gets in every aspect. Accuracy, detail in both modes, transformation, colors, everything.

News Credits: 1 · by **Jesterhead** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:12 am

alldarker wrote:I have been buying some Yamato Macross Version 2 (Perfect Transformation) Valkyrie's lately, and they do push the notion of perfection in a transforming toy though, I've noticed. Less charming than Transformers (to me), but the attention to details (paint job, features, transformation and all modes true to source material) is just incredible.

I agree, I can't find a single fault with my Yamato V2 Valks. Spectacular engineering.

by **alternator77** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:23 am

in my eyes at least mp grimlock and rotf leader prime honorable mention breacher. >:oP

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:35 am

Perfection:

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:54 am

No, nothing's perfect. gavinfuzzy mentioned Scout-class Breacher. Great figures, but wouldn't it be even better as a Deluxe-class? There's always room for improvement.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:59 am

Socrates LOL.

by **dinojack86** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:06 am

I actually have a couple that I simply cannot fault in any way.

1. Transmetals 2 Megatron (Beast Wars)
2. Beast Wars Rampage
3. Beast Wars Depth Charge
4. MP Grimlock

I have no complaints whatsoever about those four figures. A perfect Optimus Prime would probably be Buster Prime with blades AND hooks, energon axe, shield, guns, AND a trailer that converts into a weapons rack/jet pack. You could store your weapons on the rack or in the trailer while in alt mode. That would be INSANE!!! :KREMZEEK:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:11 am

@ Counterpunch

:lol:

Now, if you also have the Atari fig included with Autotrooper.......

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:18 am

Once DOTM leader Megatron comes out, there will be. As long as he has his cape, shotgun, and his chains, he will be the ultimate Megatron.

News Credits: 1 · by **Duke of Luns** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:26 am

Heh, I never expected a spin-off thread. But anyway, I agree there is no "perfect" Transformer. I started that thread to spotlight figures that will never win any awards, were considered "ok to poor" even on the time of their release, and could possibly even end up on TJ Omega's Plastic Addict.

However, Transformers have been steadily advancing in recent years and are only getting better. Heck, new benchmarks are even being made, like Generations Drift, Scourge, Cyclonus, DOTM Laserbeak, etc. Maybe even soon they'll start introducing things meant more for a collector market like alternate hands and heads.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:32 pm

IMO, Beast wars II Galvatron is near perfection in a nutshell. Leader prime is a thing of beauty, closely followed by leader starscream, only for lack of jet engines and wrist swivels, with RTS Cyclonus in third, due to one hand being different than the other due to his gun holding gimmick, scourge, plain awsome, no complaints. As for PERFECTION in ALL MODES?
RID MEGATRON
He's show accuracy with 6 modes! Hes Perfect! (At least to me)

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:23 pm

Masterpiece Skywarp.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:26 pm

Chaoslock wrote:Masterpiece Skywarp.

I'm surprised Tekka didn't say that, maybe he hasn't seen this forum yet :grin:

News Credits: 1 · by **FellintoOblivion** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:42 pm

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:12 pm

In my eye, MP Optimus Prime. Wouldn't change a thing about him. Centerpiece to my collection.

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:32 pm

gavinfuzzy wrote:Scout class breacher. I really dig every part about him. But since i bought him as a stolenchinesetoy, he ha 2 left fist So does that still count? But i use his gun to cover that up and I guess he is still "perfect" IMO.

I suppose your answer should be that the desing is perfect - just not the actual one in your collection!

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:03 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:As Burn said, it is in the eye of the beholder. And in the eyes of this beholder, RotF Leader Prime is as close to perfection as a Transformers toy has gotten so far. Both Leader Galaxy Convoy and Fire Convoy come very close, and not having owned or even held a Buster Prime I can't tell if it improves on the original, but RotF Leader Prime is as good as it gets in every aspect. Accuracy, detail in both modes, transformation, colors, everything.

Rubber tires and I might be able to get behind this...well that and he is still a movie toy which makes me hesitent to crown him perfect. And no gun...

Generations Wheeljack comes pretty damn close. I can't think of anything they coulda done better with him other than maybe give him a couple 539s and some Alitalia love.

by **ausbot** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:59 pm

G2 Optimus Prime/ RID scourge and G2 megatron/ RID Bludgeon Best TF's ever!

by **dinogeist** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:05 pm

Mykltron wrote:Inspired by Duke of Luns' thread Flawed Figures You Enjoy thread I thought I'd ask this:

Is there a Transformer that you consider PERFECT? No flaws of any kind whatsoever. You really wouldn't change a single thing about it nosiree because it fulfills EVERY desire you have for a TF.

My answer: no. What about you?

TM2 Tigerhak comes close.

but,the answer is no.

their appears to be a few future release 3rd party not-TF toys that are reaching the level of pertfection. like Hexatron/Sixshot. that newer mold G-1 Ultra magnus toy. dinobots combiners. ofcause we won't know until we examine the toy for ourselves once they get released.

by **Nujevad** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:18 pm

Jesterhead wrote:
alldarker wrote:I have been buying some Yamato Macross Version 2 (Perfect Transformation) Valkyrie's lately, and they do push the notion of perfection in a transforming toy though, I've noticed. Less charming than Transformers (to me), but the attention to details (paint job, features, transformation and all modes true to source material) is just incredible.

I agree, I can't find a single fault with my Yamato V2 Valks. Spectacular engineering.

*cough, cough, weak shoulder joints, cough, cough, skinny legs, cough, cough*

Excuse me, must've been something I ate. Anyway, the G2 Laser Prime mold (specifically, the RID Scourge repaint)was pretty close to being perfect, same goes for MP Grimlock and the MP Seekers.