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Postby SnapTrap » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:01 pm

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Sledge wrote:He's the guy who came up with the idea of adding lead to petrol, and publicly claimed it was perfectly safe. For an encore, he invented CFCs. In a couple of hundred years, when the planet is an arid wasteland and the survivors live in cities on giant hydraulic legs, they may well look back and wonder why we made such a fuss about Hitler or Stalin when Midgley had so much more a damaging impact on the world.

Lets go back in time and kill him!


To the time machine!!


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Postby Dead Metal » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:03 pm

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SnapTrap wrote:
The Master Blaster wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Sledge wrote:He's the guy who came up with the idea of adding lead to petrol, and publicly claimed it was perfectly safe. For an encore, he invented CFCs. In a couple of hundred years, when the planet is an arid wasteland and the survivors live in cities on giant hydraulic legs, they may well look back and wonder why we made such a fuss about Hitler or Stalin when Midgley had so much more a damaging impact on the world.

Lets go back in time and kill him!


To the time machine!!


I call shotgun!

Now we need that car, but it's been runn over by a train, bloody trains!
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Postby City Commander » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:06 pm

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Danish-Liokaiser wrote:
The Master Blaster wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Sledge wrote:He's the guy who came up with the idea of adding lead to petrol, and publicly claimed it was perfectly safe. For an encore, he invented CFCs. In a couple of hundred years, when the planet is an arid wasteland and the survivors live in cities on giant hydraulic legs, they may well look back and wonder why we made such a fuss about Hitler or Stalin when Midgley had so much more a damaging impact on the world.

Lets go back in time and kill him!


To the time machine!!


To Vector Prime!!!

So i can imagine that real paint have a little extract of lead in it, many things might have it, but again we cant worry about everything, especially not if they say that the lead is in non-dangerous bits ... then we gotta trust em.

I keep repeating myself, sorry im tired and ... fustrated ...



Lead paint is only gonna be dangerous if you actually lick it constantly. And you'd have to lick for quite a while to just get a headache.

I seriously doubt you can absorb lead through your skin. That's crap.
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Postby shortround » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:12 pm

Yeah this has been talked about in a couple of other topics as well. Basicly our goverment has started to check most shipments coming in from china because of the lead paint problem. If it doesn't meet the standered whatever those are there shiped back to china.
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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:51 pm

Hmmm well ... i quess there is nothing dangerous for us collectors then, but for kids under 3 years it might be.

EDIT* I forgot to mention, i have a open scar on my hand atm, could i get any effects of getting close to any lead-paint until it is healed?
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Postby waaaaghlord » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:03 pm

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I've told you before, I don't mind you borrowing it but could you please ask first? And be sure to top her up with Quantium 40 before you get her back to me.

50 cool points to the first one to get the Q-40 reference.
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:08 pm

you have to love the lilformers, although most of it is all in good fun...but this one is scary true.

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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:20 pm

Gutter Bunny wrote:you have to love the lilformers, although most of it is all in good fun...but this one is scary true.

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Bwahaha indeed ... God that console is just that damn expensive ... and that's why i hate it :-P
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Postby rpetras » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:30 pm

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Danish-Liokaiser wrote:Hmmm well ... i quess there is nothing dangerous for us collectors then, but for kids under 3 years it might be.


As long as you don't feed your little brother (or whatever) 3 square meals a day of optimash primes he'll be fine. With a TF toy, a kid would be in a lot more danger of choking on a small part than being affected by the trace amounts of lead in the paint.

Danish-Liokaiser wrote:EDIT* I forgot to mention, i have a open scar on my hand atm, could i get any effects of getting close to any lead-paint until it is healed?


You'll be fine :-) As long as you don't ingest it in any quantity there is no ill effect.

The real concern with lead paint and toys is that the gub'ment has to assume that anything labeled as a "toy" will be handled by a person that is as likely to chew on it as play with it. They err to the side of caution. Any kid out of the toddler stage should be beyond chewing on toys, and even quite a few toddlers have broken the teething habit.

And then, even if a child was to chew on a lead laden toy, they would have to consume quite a bit of the paint to have any ill effect. Again, the gub'ment errs to the side of caution.

I wouldn't be concerned with anything TF related (even if you happen to have a Soundwave made entirely out of cast lead) since you are probably trying to keep your TFs out of the mitts of the smaller crowd anyway.

But if you have a kid in the house DO check the affected toy lists for anything marketed to babies and toddlers. These OFTEN end up as chew toys. While the chance for potential harm is still pretty slight it is not worth the risk.
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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:35 pm

rpetras wrote:
Danish-Liokaiser wrote:Hmmm well ... i quess there is nothing dangerous for us collectors then, but for kids under 3 years it might be.


As long as you don't feed your little brother (or whatever) 3 square meals a day of optimash primes he'll be fine. With a TF toy, a kid would be in a lot more danger of choking on a small part than being affected by the trace amounts of lead in the paint.

Danish-Liokaiser wrote:EDIT* I forgot to mention, i have a open scar on my hand atm, could i get any effects of getting close to any lead-paint until it is healed?


You'll be fine :-) As long as you don't ingest it in any quantity there is no ill effect.

The real concern with lead paint and toys is that the gub'ment has to assume that anything labeled as a "toy" will be handled by a person that is as likely to chew on it as play with it. They err to the side of caution. Any kid out of the toddler stage should be beyond chewing on toys, and even quite a few toddlers have broken the teething habit.

And then, even if a child was to chew on a lead laden toy, they would have to consume quite a bit of the paint to have any ill effect. Again, the gub'ment errs to the side of caution.

I wouldn't be concerned with anything TF related (even if you happen to have a Soundwave made entirely out of cast lead) since you are probably trying to keep your TFs out of the mitts of the smaller crowd anyway.

But if you have a kid in the house DO check the affected toy lists for anything marketed to babies and toddlers. These OFTEN end up as chew toys. While the chance for potential harm is still pretty slight it is not worth the risk.


So Soundwave is made out of Lead? Is it only the G1, or does all hes reissues allso have it?
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Postby twee » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:00 pm

Just play with Transformers the way you'd practice safe sex: no glove, no love.
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Postby Kanyon » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:27 pm

Did somebody say..Eat Transformers? :-?
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Postby DeathNoble » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:46 pm

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Oh my Lord... My ex has lead poisoning.

Either that or she was just a B**** that lost interest in me once she started cheating. Whichever.
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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:13 am

Can someone please tell me about the Soundwave thing?

Is Soundwave made out of 100% Lead?

Does we only talk about the real G1 figure, or allso the reissues?! :shock:
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Postby Burn » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:36 am

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Geez dude, paranoid much? :?

NO Transformers are completely made out of lead.

NO Transformers are harmful to your health unless you use them as weapons or shoot the missiles into your eyes or if you're even stupider down your throat.

Just play with the damn things. You have NOTHING to worry about.
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Postby Sunstar » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:55 am

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Lead poisoning was often caused by lead pipes, lead solder in pipes or even further back Pewter plates, and other dishes. Acids, in food, ie, tomatoes, would leach the lead out and get into the food where it concentrated.

It was also in make up for women a few hundred years ago, particularily white makeup. It was supposed to make women look more beautiful.
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Postby Dead Metal » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:33 pm

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I've told you before, I don't mind you borrowing it but could you please ask first? And be sure to top her up with Quantium 40 before you get her back to me.

50 cool points to the first one to get the Q-40 reference.


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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:49 am

Burn wrote:Geez dude, paranoid much? :?

NO Transformers are completely made out of lead.

NO Transformers are harmful to your health unless you use them as weapons or shoot the missiles into your eyes or if you're even stupider down your throat.

Just play with the damn things. You have NOTHING to worry about.


YES i am very paranoid ! ...

I have even emailed Hasbro about the question to get some answers ... otherwise, i dont think they'll give me the truth ...

And im sorry to say this, im not That smart again, so with " NO " you mean that there arent lead in the figures?
Rpetras said that Soundwave was made out of it.

IM NOT TRYING TO ANNOY ANYONE, i am quite paranoid ! ...
Or should i say, im very paranoid ! ...
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Postby Sledge » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:00 am

I can't decide whether to explain the concept of "sarcasm" to Danish Liokaiser, or to start mentioning other TFs that were made of solid lead. :-?
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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:06 am

Sledge wrote:I can't decide whether to explain the concept of "sarcasm" to Danish Liokaiser, or to start mentioning other TFs that were made of solid lead. :-?


Dont worry, i know what sarcasm is.
As i said before " im paranoid " ... :-(

EDIT* When i think about it, just mention all the Tf's there is made of Solid Lead
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Postby Danish-Liokaiser » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:11 am

Sorry, im just very frustrated over this whole lead-paint thing ...

As i said earlier, i cant take any kind of toxic.
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Postby waaaaghlord » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:17 am

Dead Metal wrote:
waaaaghlord wrote:
The Master Blaster wrote:To the time machine!!


I've told you before, I don't mind you borrowing it but could you please ask first? And be sure to top her up with Quantium 40 before you get her back to me.

50 cool points to the first one to get the Q-40 reference.


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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:03 am

Starscream said

I for one HOPE that there is a recall of transformers products because then they will be EVEN RARER!!!!!!!~~~!
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Starscream stop thinking about your selfish self all the time. ;;)
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Postby rpetras » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:13 am

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Danish-Liokaiser wrote:
Sledge wrote:I can't decide whether to explain the concept of "sarcasm" to Danish Liokaiser, or to start mentioning other TFs that were made of solid lead. :-?


Dont worry, i know what sarcasm is.
As i said before " im paranoid " ... :-(

EDIT* When i think about it, just mention all the Tf's there is made of Solid Lead


No, no, it really was just sarcasm. Sorry for any lost sleep :-)

I meant if you happened to have a toy made entirely of lead, that would actually be OK, as long as you didn't eat it. Don't worry your TFs are safe to play with.

Actually, now that I think about it, I used to have a bunch of toy soldiers that were cast lead figures when I was a kid. They were cool, I wonder what happened to them?
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Postby Sarri » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:17 am

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You should stop using a computer, Danish, it contains potentially lethal chemicals.
And be wary of your wallpapers (the ones on the wall, not the ones on the computer) and furniture, they are very likely to exude Formaldehyde which has been classified as source of cancer and which comes out of many things for a very long time. You are for more likely to have negative effects from the furnit your Tranformers are in or on than from the Transformers themselves
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