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by **Orin McMonigle** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:16 pm

I had to choose my favorite transformer when joining and put Scorponok because I'm trying to complete my G1 but was just thinking how Magnaboss is probably my favorite toy (not my favorite character since I've never seen it on tv). Many thousands of hours and decades of transforming and that one is the only one I know of that takes 45 minutes AND directions!! Most of them take about three seconds.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:24 pm

He's a nice combiner, but I wouldn't call him the greatest personally.

And you can do Alternator Grimlock/Wheeljack in under 45 mins without referencing instructions?

by **Autobot-Hellstriker** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:40 pm

There's no way alternators are easy, heck even 2010 Voyager Class Battle Blades Optimus Prime takes me at least 30 minutes with instructions.

But it's true that combiners can be tough. Beast Wars was the first series notorius for difficult transformations.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:42 pm

Burn wrote:He's a nice combiner, but I wouldn't call him the greatest personally.

I'd hardly call Magnaboss good, great or anywhere close to the greatest Transformer ever. He's barely a step above Tripredacus and he's crap. The Beast Wars combiners are undeniably fiddly and require excessive amounts of force to lock certain connections because of it. If I remember correctly, Skywarp/Silverbolt is made primarily of GPS too, scary.

If I absolutely had to state what I think the greatest TF ever is, I'd be forced to say G1 Optimus Prime. He embodies everything a great TF should and he's likely the most iconic as well.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:15 pm

Some people can transform their figures easier than others, I guess. I got alternators wheeljack, and it took me 15 minutes to transform the first time. I transform him at roughly 7-8 minutes now, depending on how many times the doors pop off. I bought him loose, 100% complete, no instructions.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:41 pm

Orin McMonigle wrote:I had to choose my favorite transformer when joining and put Scorponok because I'm trying to complete my G1 but was just thinking how Magnaboss is probably my favorite toy (not my favorite character since I've never seen it on tv). Many thousands of hours and decades of transforming and that one is the only one I know of that takes 45 minutes AND directions!! Most of them take about three seconds.

Magmatron>>Magnaboss

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:50 pm

Flux Convoy wrote: He's barely a step above Tripredacus and he's crap.

Hey now, Tripredacus is da Boss. He's my second fav behind Universe Devastator
repaint of Landfill.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:02 pm

BeastProwl wrote:Some people can transform their figures easier than others, I guess. I got alternators wheeljack, and it took me 15 minutes to transform the first time. I transform him at roughly 7-8 minutes now, depending on how many times the doors pop off. I bought him loose, 100% complete, no instructions.

Well you're not really transforming him if the doors are popping off now are you?

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:34 pm

Magnaboss? Not... really. Certainly not even the best combiner.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:41 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Magnaboss? Not... really. Certainly not even the best combiner.

Okay guys, you had me curious so I looked it up on Ebay. Turn out a Korean version of the dynamic trio is only 50$ shipped. Judging from the pictures, the thing look totally AWESOME.

But after seeng JTMitchell87's video review, it look like the eagle 'bot, silverbolt, kinda suffer from the infamous GPS. That is really unfortunate because this look like a very cool and interesting TF. I wonder if the Korean version have the GPS fixed on Silverbolt?

I may have to pass on this very cool, very tribal looking thing....

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:46 am

DISCHARGE wrote:
Flux Convoy wrote: He's barely a step above Tripredacus and he's crap.

Hey now, Tripredacus is da Boss.

This^. I love my Tripredicus, though I used Telemocha Gimlet and Telemocha Motorarm for mine along with Cicadacon. It made for a really nifty looking combo

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Orin McMonigle wrote:Magmatron>>Magnaboss

Agreed. Magnaboss is by far my favorite Beast Wars combiner, and one of my favorite combiners of all time, right up there with big Herc.

by **Orin McMonigle** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:52 am

DISCHARGE wrote:
Hey now, Tripredacus is da Boss. He's my second fav behind Universe Devastator
repaint of Landfill.

Tripredacus is a neat one but much simpler and you don't really need the instructions.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:18 pm

Just looked at Magnatron review. I'm gonna pass on this one because each beast componets don't become robot modes on their own. Also, the huge "sheild" kibble.

Edit:

Just saw the Tripredacus review. Man that... thing is HORRIBLE looking in ALL it's modes.

Magnaboss is the clear winner. He have great looking beast and robot modes. The combiner mode is awesome looking just because he look so much like a tribal cavemen.

I'm defenitely going to buy him.

by **Orin McMonigle** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:44 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Okay guys, you had me curious so I looked it up on Ebay. Turn out a Korean version of the dynamic trio is only 50$ shipped. Judging from the pictures, the thing look totally AWESOME.

But after seeng JTMitchell87's video review, it look like the eagle 'bot, silverbolt, kinda suffer from the infamous GPS. That is really unfortunate because this look like a very cool and interesting TF. I wonder if the Korean version have the GPS fixed on Silverbolt?

I may have to pass on this very cool, very tribal looking thing....

I'm not familiar with the letters GPS but I've never had problems with the toy except it is spectacularly complicated. I bought two of them when they came out and gave one to my kids but of course that one ended up being given away at some point. Aren't most of the rip offs pretty junky? With how complicated it is I imagine a crap version would fall to pieces on the first transformation. I'll have to look it up but I thought most of the beast wars original merchandise doesn't cost much.

by **Screamfleet** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:50 pm

Orin McMonigle wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:
Hey now, Tripredacus is da Boss. He's my second fav behind Universe Devastator
repaint of Landfill.

Tripredacus is a neat one but much simpler and you don't really need the instructions.

Why does that matter?

I don't need the instructions for any of the transformers I have. Once I do it, I know it.

Still I think tripredacus is one of the best combiners ever. Each one has a very solid beast mode, their robot modes may be lacking a bit, but they're still decent. Then his combined form is really nice and monstrous and well put together.

Magnaboss is...eh. Only prowl is decent from that bunch, and even he isn't that great. Silverbolt is like, all wings, ironhide is goofy looking, except in elephant mode.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:01 pm

Orin McMonigle wrote:I'm not familiar with the letters GPS

GOLD PLASTIC SYNDROME

Older transformers suffer from that the gold or bronze plastic tend to SHATTER LIKE GLASS just by looking at it over time. Just imagine a joint made out of the thing.

Here's the wiki page explaining it better:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Gold_Plastic_Syndrome

And a video showing it in action. (I have Randy and he WILL stay in it's box. 10$ MIB shipped. Now I know why.)

When buying a very expensive and old TF like Blackzarrak, be very aware of that fact.

by **Orin McMonigle** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:06 pm

Screamfleet wrote:
Orin McMonigle wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:
Hey now, Tripredacus is da Boss. He's my second fav behind Universe Devastator
repaint of Landfill.

Tripredacus is a neat one but much simpler and you don't really need the instructions.

Why does that matter?

I don't need the instructions for any of the transformers I have. Once I do it, I know it.

Still I think tripredacus is one of the best combiners ever. Each one has a very solid beast mode, their robot modes may be lacking a bit, but they're still decent. Then his combined form is really nice and monstrous and well put together.

Magnaboss is...eh. Only prowl is decent from that bunch, and even he isn't that great. Silverbolt is like, all wings, ironhide is goofy looking, except in elephant mode.

It matters only because the main reason Magnaboss is such a neat toy is the transformation complexity. I also think it's a much nicer looking toy though my personal preference is crayfish and rhinoceros beetles (see image)

. I highly doubt you'd have much success without instructions if you haven't changed your Magnaboss recently. It's not about pulling pieces off and reconstructing like legos for some transformers.

by **Screamfleet** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:15 pm

I don't think I would have any trouble at all, and you're awfully presumptuous to assume I would. It's complexity does nothing to make it a better toy. It's really not that complicated. You give it too much credit.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:45 pm

Screamfleet wrote:I don't think I would have any trouble at all, and you're awfully presumptuous to assume I would. It's complexity does nothing to make it a better toy. It's really not that complicated. You give it too much credit.

I had Tripredacus combined for a while and when I wanted to put them back into beast mode Ramhorn was a real bizatch. I literally just put him down and walked a way for a few days. But his combined mode is so solid and I love the face. It's such a unique figure

I never really wanted a Magnaboss, there is kibble everywhere. But the tusks that wrap around the head look nice and the sword is killer.

Ok, Tripredacus has loads of kibble, but he seems more streamlined.

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:45 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:And a video showing it in action. (I have Randy and he WILL stay in it's box. 10$ MIB shipped. Now I know why.)

When buying a very expensive and old TF like Blackzarrak, be very aware of that fact.

Even knowing what was going to happen(but only from reading about GPS, I've never actually seen it until now), my heart still palpated a little when he gave Randy a squeeze and it just fell apart.

I can only imagine the shock someone who has no idea about GPS would go through the first times something like that happened to them.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:47 pm

Midnight_Fox wrote:I can only imagine the shock someone who has no idea about GPS would go through the first times something like that happened to them.

Especially after buying a 3700$ Black Zarak and trying to transform him.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Japanese-transfo ... 23176052c6

by **Orin McMonigle** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:31 pm

Screamfleet wrote:I don't think I would have any trouble at all, and you're awfully presumptuous ...

But you don't KNOW so it's you who is awfully presumptuous. This is the point where you should feel pretty foolish but I imagine you won't.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:35 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just looked at Magnatron review. I'm gonna pass on this one because each beast componets don't become robot modes on their own. Also, the huge "sheild" kibble.

His shield is not a kibble, it can be taken down from his arm.
Also, he is supposed to be an individual robot who has three bodies, not an old-style "real" combiner, more like Omega Supreme.

by **Screamfleet** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:38 pm

Orin McMonigle wrote:
Screamfleet wrote:I don't think I would have any trouble at all, and you're awfully presumptuous ...

But you don't KNOW so it's you who is awfully presumptuous. This is the point where you should feel pretty foolish but I imagine you won't.

Yet you know what I would or wouldn't know?

Are you just a troll?