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by **Raymond101** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:00 am

I'm going for Beast Wars Transmetals and Transmetals 2, and Cybertron.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:08 am

Machine Wars.

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:09 am

BW and Classics.

by **Raymond101** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:18 am

Burn wrote:Machine Wars.

Are you serious??

Wow, finally, someone who is charmed by the Decepticon basics from that toyline, like me. I especially want Megatron, Megaplex, Thundercracker and Skywarp.

News Credits: 7 · by **waaaaghlord** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:07 am

dictionary.com wrote:ep·ic

–adjective
1. noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer's Iliad is an epic poem.
2. resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country.
3. heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war.
4. of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions.
–noun
5. an epic poem.
6. epic poetry.
7. any composition resembling an epic.
8. something worthy to form the subject of an epic: The defense of the Alamo is an American epic.
9. (initial capital letter) Also called Old Ionic. the Greek dialect represented in the Iliad and the Odyssey, apparently Aeolic modified by Ionic.

In relation to 4 I'd have to go with G1, truely a huge toyline. I suppose that with the inherent backstory and mythos of the TFs 8 could be seen to apply as well, but linguisticly 'epic' isn't a term that easily relates to toys.

by **zemper** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:28 am

Beast Wars (Original, TM, TM2) hands-down. 'nuff said.

:MAX:

News Credits: 2 · by **TFBuyer** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:37 am

Because of the inclusion of Primus and various other planets, I'll have to go with the Cybertron line.

by **Bonger** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:47 am

G1 absolutlely. If it was not epic, there would be no TFs today.

by **Dagon** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:05 am

Bonger wrote:G1 absolutlely. If it was not epic, there would be no TFs today.

Quoted for the utmost degree of truth.

by **Auto Bot** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:42 am

I love Classics more than G1.

But to be true to the meaning of epic, I'd say G1 is by far the winner.

by **olokin** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:32 pm

By far, G1. It lasted from 1984 to the early 90's. Even today there are reissues and encore editions from this line. This line started everything.

by **Obsidian_Prime** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:36 pm

That is why I am starting to building up my G1 collection. :3

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:29 pm

G1 was Epic in terms of characters and series run time.
Beat Wars was epic for its complete change in shift, and also because of its designs.
Cybertron was epic for trying to mix all types of previous styles (Earth Vehicles, Futuristic Vehicles, Alien vehicles, animals) into the one series.

by **joequick** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:37 pm

waaaaghlord wrote:
dictionary.com wrote:ep·ic

–adjective
1. noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer's Iliad is an epic poem.
2. resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country.
3. heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war.
4. of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions.
–noun
5. an epic poem.
6. epic poetry.
7. any composition resembling an epic.
8. something worthy to form the subject of an epic: The defense of the Alamo is an American epic.
9. (initial capital letter) Also called Old Ionic. the Greek dialect represented in the Iliad and the Odyssey, apparently Aeolic modified by Ionic.

In relation to 4 I'd have to go with G1, truely a huge toyline. I suppose that with the inherent backstory and mythos of the TFs 8 could be seen to apply as well, but linguisticly 'epic' isn't a term that easily relates to toys.

lin·guis·tics
n. (used with a sing. verb)
The study of the nature, structure, and variation of language, including phonetics, phonology, morphology, syntax, semantics, sociolinguistics, and pragmatics.

I wouldn't be such a jackass about it, but my girlfriend got her bachelors in linguistics before going on to get her masters in speech pathology. So it's a subject I've been forced to live with and get to know in all it's many facets.

If you want to make anymore sense than the statement you're critiquing you'd probably want to go with "semantically speaking".

News Credits: 8 · by **Electron** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:40 pm

G1 Indeed

by **JonJonJonJonJon** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:31 pm

BW for me. It brought me back into the TF collecting fold!

by **Silver Galvatron** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:00 am

CYBERTRON.

News Credits: 1093 · by **Alex Kingdom** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:32 am

Looks to me like a lot of people are mistaking epic to mean best or favorite. waaaaghlord is right if an TF line deserves to be called epic its G1 purly on the length and size of the toy line and huge back catalogue of fiction. G1 still continues today in the form of Classics, Alt/BT, Masterpecies, Titaniums, reissue, IDW comic etc. It is and always will be the most long lived TF line and therfore is most fitting of the term epic.

Yours AK

by **Auto Bot** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:45 am

Yehey! My Classics can be considered epic now. :grin:

News Credits: 7 · by **Omega Charge** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:51 am

There weren't THAT many Classics toys and there is no actual show pertaining to them( besides their G1 homage), so to me I wouldn't consider them to be a hugely epic line, but it has to fit in somewhere, it surely cannot be classified as not epic at all.

I think Cybertron was the most epic line.

by **Auto Bot** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:13 pm

There seem to be some Classics-based comics. Not that this can make them epic.

News Credits: 1093 · by **Alex Kingdom** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:00 pm

I would concider Classics to be a further extention of G1 to be quite honest, just like Alternators, Binaltech, Masterpiece and reissues.

Yours AK

by **Cyber-Kun** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:04 pm

I'd say Beast Wars because it re-invented the Transformes line and brought a new generation of Transformers explosion (including me)

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:51 pm

Auto Bot wrote:There seem to be some Classics-based comics.

You're basing that on what?

Classics hasn't had it's own comic, the only time you'll find a Classic character in comics is in the club comics, and they're not available at retail (until they do the trade paperbacks).

Beast Wars however has had one mini-series and is into it's second mini-series plus the Source books.

by **-Barricade-** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:02 pm

No doubt... G1

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