The Energon Pub

by **Optimist Prime** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:27 pm

How many transformer toys have a muscle car alt mode?

News Credits: 2 · by **TFBuyer** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:30 pm

Well, I know there was a G1 micromaster team that was made of muscle cars with cool names like "Big Daddy." Cybertron Downshift probably qualifies as well...

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:53 pm

Both G1 Runamuck and Windcharger use a 3rd generation Trans-am as their alt mode

News Credits: 1 · by **Sherade** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:57 pm

~Windcharger~ wrote:How many transformer toys have a muscle car alt mode?

Obviosly not enough.
Of course, there can never BE enough.
Although Alt. Wheeljack and Grimlock are some of the best. Micromaster Trip-up was cool too, a '68 Mustang.

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:57 pm

Does a Pontiac Fierro count as a muscle car? cuz G1 Punch/Counterpunch is a Fierro.

News Credits: 4 · by **General Magnus** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:00 pm

Lockdown has a muscle car mode.

News Credits: 4 · by **Bumblethumper** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:03 pm

Tracks is the obvious one I woulda thought. Movie Bumblebee is another.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:22 pm

Energon and Cybertron Downshift are the 2 most recent ones (with Lockdown yet to be released) with non "real" muscle Car alt modes.

Guess you could also count the Armada Sideswipe, and his repaints, along with Armada Wheeljack too.

by **Mandamus** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:26 pm

What about Hot Rod?

I'd say big engine sticking out of the hood = muscle car.

by **Thanatos Prime** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:37 pm

Bumblethumper wrote:Tracks is the obvious one I woulda thought. Movie Bumblebee is another.

Tracks is a corvette. Vettes aren't muscle cars, they're sports cars.

A muscle car is an American made car with a huge engine, however it isn't super aero-dynamic like a Corvette or Ford GT. It's just loud and powerful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car

Hot Rod isn't one either, way too small and streamlined

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:39 pm

i_amtrunks wrote:Energon and Cybertron Downshift are the 2 most recent ones (with Lockdown yet to be released) with non "real" muscle Car alt modes.

Guess you could also count the Armada Sideswipe, and his repaints, along with Armada Wheeljack too.

Armada Sideswipe and Wheeljack wouldn't count.

News Credits: 4 · by **Bumblethumper** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:01 pm

Thanatos Prime wrote:
Bumblethumper wrote:Tracks is the obvious one I woulda thought. Movie Bumblebee is another.

Tracks is a corvette. Vettes aren't muscle cars, they're sports cars.

I don't claim to be an expert on what a muscle car is or isn't, but I've frequently seen Corvettes described as muscle cars or lumped in with the rest of them. Whether I'm right or wrong, I wouldn't be the first to make that mistake.

see here for instance:
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/sitemap/sm-muscle-cars.aspx

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:10 pm

Bumblethumper wrote:
Thanatos Prime wrote:
Bumblethumper wrote:Tracks is the obvious one I woulda thought. Movie Bumblebee is another.

Tracks is a corvette. Vettes aren't muscle cars, they're sports cars.

I don't claim to be an expert on what a muscle car is or isn't, but I've frequently seen Corvettes described as muscle cars or lumped in with the rest of them. Whether I'm right or wrong, I wouldn't be the first to make that mistake.

see here for instance:
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/sitemap/sm-muscle-cars.aspx

I've always considered it one too, Crap, the newest Z06 Vetter can run in the 10's stock on Drag tires.

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:26 pm

movie- barricade and bumblebee
classics- rodimus
alternators- wheeljack, grimlock, sunstreaker + repaints
cybertron- downshift

thats all i can think of right now...

News Credits: 1 · by **Sherade** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:40 pm

GetterDragun wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote:Energon and Cybertron Downshift are the 2 most recent ones (with Lockdown yet to be released) with non "real" muscle Car alt modes.

Guess you could also count the Armada Sideswipe, and his repaints, along with Armada Wheeljack too.

Armada Sideswipe and Wheeljack wouldn't count.

Sideswipe (Truly Nightbeat) is what we call an import..or Ricer, Tuner, whatever you like.
Wheeljack is just there, more of a "supercar".

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:09 pm

Sherade wrote:
GetterDragun wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote:Energon and Cybertron Downshift are the 2 most recent ones (with Lockdown yet to be released) with non "real" muscle Car alt modes.

Guess you could also count the Armada Sideswipe, and his repaints, along with Armada Wheeljack too.

Armada Sideswipe and Wheeljack wouldn't count.

Sideswipe (Truly Nightbeat) is what we call an import..or Ricer, Tuner, whatever you like.
Wheeljack is just there, more of a "supercar".

armada sideswipe was a nissan skyline
wheelack is a ferrari modena

News Credits: 1 · by **Sherade** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:14 pm

Barricade wrote:sideswipe (AKA nightbeat) is a peice of crap.
wheelack is an even bigger peice of crap.

Fixed.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:20 pm

One of the Classics Minicon, oil Slick I think is his name,
is a muscle car.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:11 am

Firebird wrote:Both G1 Runamuck and Windcharger use a 3rd generation Trans-am as their alt mode

I wouldn't consider the 3rd gen f-body a "muscle car" even in v8 trim they were underpowered

When i think of muscle cars i think of the 1st gen camaros, 1st gen t/a's, pre-foxbody mustangs, chevelles, vettes,GTO's, nova's, charger's, cuda's, etc. The muscle car died prior to the 80's

Don't get me wrong some sports cars now can be damn fast(the Z06, viper SRT's, hell the neon SRT-4 can run high 13's stock), but i wouldnt consider them muscle cars...maybe i'm just stubborn and feel the name is dead.

(insert don't discount the imports speech here...not all imports are ricers :grin: