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people go on about "to be a real transformer fan you've gotta have one of these and these and one these aswell!". so in "your" mind what tranformers figure do you think people have gotta have?
is it unicron from armada (which im getting soon ) 20th ani/masterpice prime or car robot/g1 fort max, or just a g1 prime or megs? i do know that its youre collection but i want to know what other people think about on this

I think once you have a G1 Wheelie you can consider what you have a collection. No, I'm not kidding.

Well I can't speak for others but for me it would have to be G1 Optimus Prime, the flagship Transformer from G1.

I found that when i was first starting out, G1 prime was really hard to come by and no matter what i got it couldn't fill the Prime void. I got RM Prime, Energon Prime, Titanium war within Prime, 20th anniversary Prime but it just wasn't nostalgic enough. When I finally got an original G1 prime I felt that my collection had something to stand on, some true TF history to go with the modern Prime designs.

RiD scourge/Black Convoy: king of badassery, buy him now.

I think it really depends on your age or level of interest. I mean, some would not even consider G1 but are realy into Beast Wars, the movie line, etc...

With that in mind, I'd say one should pickup the major players (Primes, Megatrons, etc...) in order to have a decent collection.

I'm gonna side with Laspe on this. Collect what you like!

I have tons of bots fron every series and each hase it's own stand out molds, but who's to say whats right for me is right for others.

To some 08 BB is the holy grail, currently myself, I'm looking at Deathsarus and Victory Leo...

And next month I'll be looking for the next big guy, but I'm just at that point in my collection.

As far as "MUST HAVES" go though, I'll give you one frome each line.

G1 Autobot, BumbleBee. Quick, simple, endlessly fun, and an undeniable buddy, the pure epidimy of what an AutoBot is. Are there better, sure, but this little yellow guy has character.

G1 Decepticon, SoundWave, versatile, relatable, coniving and loyal at the same time, and plays well with others even if his knees are backwards.

HeadMasters AutoBot, PM Prime(Ginrah). Basicly a brick, but a scale upgrade of the AutoBot Leader, and a fine example of single bot multi piece alt tech

HeadMasters Decepticon, SixShot. The same principal as Prime, but instead of multi modes using various pieces, this is all done in one figure, which is still very much a brick.

MasterForce AutoBot, Siren, A smaller headmaster that uses the pilot seat as part of the bot mode to make for a clean looking figure(at least from the shoulders up.

MasterForce Decepticon HorriBull, the Bot mode is somewhat lax, however unlike the other Decepticon HeadMasters in this series, he has an almost realistic cyber/bot mode

TransFormers Victory Autobot, Victory Saber. Granted I don't know much about this series, but the BrainMaster design of this figure is a nice step forward from PM Prime. Very different alts, but the concept is both very similar and advanced which is a nice step forward.

Transformers Victory Decepticon Monstructor, one of the tiniest mainline combiners ever in cool dino shells, whats not to love!

Transformers Zone Autobot, Dai Atlas. I got him over the holidays, and his base alt is amazing! He can link with other MicroMaster bases such as CountDown, and even Star Convoy

Transformers Zone Decepticon, Predaking. I know he didn't actualy get a Zone retool, but he was in the one episode and is a nice way for me to work him into this

Transformers BattleStars, I know to little about this series to realy coment, but I have the reissue Starconvoy, and realy wand Grandus and Sky Garry.

Transformers G2 Autobot, Laser Prime. Horrible decals, but great weapon options and articulation. RID Scourge fans can attest!

Transformers G2 Decepticons. Well, I don't know what the G2 name is, but in Beast Wars Neo he was refered to as StarScream and BB. Great triple changer alt, with alt combination. Lots of fire power, and 2 cool bot modes.

Beast Wars Maximals, Optimal Optimus. Initialy I didn't like the look of him, but upon purchase, it's easy to see why he is both alpha and omega! Lots of transformation possiblities that far excede the box here. A fun Bot to play with!

Beast Wars Predicons, TerraGator. Probably the most neglected bot in TF history. The alt is so-so, but does offer snapping jaws! The transformation and articulation are great though, and with a very cool gun and full size shield, he realy makes for a great time

Beast Wars2 Maximal, Apache, he kinda looks like a Maximal Duke from GIJoe. The alt mode sucks, but the bot mode is well armed and the third mode is very intimidating. Guns and rockets everywhere!

Beast Wars2 Predicons, Galvatron. Just go get one, trust me all you hear about is Magmatron this and Magmatron that. This guy can kick his ass easy!

Beast Wars Neo Maximals, LongRack. A very complex transformation with alot of hidden details. Hidden weapons and a fing sculpt, this guy is alot of fun paired with Break and Stampy.

Beast Wars Neo Predicons, DeadEnd. I wish they would revisit him with a pearlcoat paint job cause if you can figure him out, he is an exquisit bot

Beast Machines Maximals, BlackArachnia. Acurate to the show, and a devine unexploiting example of how lovely and dangerious a female Transformer can be

Beast Machines Vehicons, Any of the drones. They captured the show counterparts down to the letter.

RID AutoBot, Prowl. Sleak, Articulate, lots of options for weapon positions. A dam fine figure with well placed Kibble

RID Predicons Slapper. Excellent articulation. I prefer the Beast Wars Blue colors, but this figure has a great transformation and range of movement

RID Decepticons, Scourge. Evil G2 Prime, wats not to love!!!

Armada AutoBots Red Alert. Hidden gimicks by the truck load, great articulation, and fun to use with the minicons.

Armada Decepticons SideWays, a nice revisit to the Headmaster idea. Not alot of articulation, but a great incorportaion of the headmasters(yes plural) acting as riders.

Armada MiniCons Sea Team. Only one word I can say about these guys "FUN"

Energon AutoBot Rodimus. Welcome back in a battle ready updated form. Nice alt, and great articulation!

Energon Decepticons DiveBomb. I can't get enough of posing that bird bot. The clear feathers in the wings make for a nice display

Cybetron AutoBot Optimus Prime, rivaled by maybe RID Prime, probably the best most versatile Prime ever


Cybretron Decepticons, Nemisis Breaker. A so-so alt, and not the best articulation, but he just screams sinister and evil!

Movie AutoBot, Longarm. Underrated, but a great bot to transform, exclent sculpt, and astounding weapon!

Movie Wreckage, could have easily been a ninja Megatron

Animated, I don't have any yet, so I can't say.

So if your still here, as far as must haves go, these are mine, but I still reiterate with what I started, collect what you like!

GreenLantern of Cybertron wrote:RiD scourge/Black Convoy: king of badassery, buy him now.

QFT

Also, I dunno, it depends on what you collect - what you like. A general, all-encompassing collection is nice, but if there's a certain alt-mode or continuity or character you enjoy, run with that instead.

Seriously, collect what you want to collect for your own reasons and determine your own must-have toys.

I agree with Octane, G1 Prime (any release will do) is a must have for any TF collector.

I say a permanant tattoo. If you are only a passing fan, you probably won't.

As for things like "prime" I really do not like the character or what he represents. So, I would not consider getting him. Inspite of the fact that he is the "symbol" of transformers.

I think in reality, you must have a love for the series, the toys and whatnot to be a fan. I love Starscream, with my deepest spark. He is what holds me to the fandom, and he is what I collect.

GreenLantern of Cybertron wrote:RiD scourge/Black Convoy: king of badassery, buy him now.

Seconded. Or thirded.

RID Air Attack Optimus Primal. In my collection of almost 1,000 figures he is the only one that consistently grabs my attention. One of the greatest Transformers ever created, IMO.

Liege Evilmus wrote:I'm gonna side with Laspe on this. Collect what you like!

I have tons of bots fron every series and each hase it's own stand out molds, but who's to say whats right for me is right for others.

To some 08 BB is the holy grail, currently myself, I'm looking at Deathsarus and Victory Leo...

And next month I'll be looking for the next big guy, but I'm just at that point in my collection.

As far as "MUST HAVES" go though, I'll give you one frome each line.

G1 Autobot, BumbleBee. Quick, simple, endlessly fun, and an undeniable buddy, the pure epidimy of what an AutoBot is. Are there better, sure, but this little yellow guy has character.

G1 Decepticon, SoundWave, versatile, relatable, coniving and loyal at the same time, and plays well with others even if his knees are backwards.

HeadMasters AutoBot, PM Prime(Ginrah). Basicly a brick, but a scale upgrade of the AutoBot Leader, and a fine example of single bot multi piece alt tech

HeadMasters Decepticon, SixShot. The same principal as Prime, but instead of multi modes using various pieces, this is all done in one figure, which is still very much a brick.

MasterForce AutoBot, Siren, A smaller headmaster that uses the pilot seat as part of the bot mode to make for a clean looking figure(at least from the shoulders up.

MasterForce Decepticon HorriBull, the Bot mode is somewhat lax, however unlike the other Decepticon HeadMasters in this series, he has an almost realistic cyber/bot mode

TransFormers Victory Autobot, Victory Saber. Granted I don't know much about this series, but the BrainMaster design of this figure is a nice step forward from PM Prime. Very different alts, but the concept is both very similar and advanced which is a nice step forward.

Transformers Victory Decepticon Monstructor, one of the tiniest mainline combiners ever in cool dino shells, whats not to love!

Transformers Zone Autobot, Dai Atlas. I got him over the holidays, and his base alt is amazing! He can link with other MicroMaster bases such as CountDown, and even Star Convoy

Transformers Zone Decepticon, Predaking. I know he didn't actualy get a Zone retool, but he was in the one episode and is a nice way for me to work him into this

Transformers BattleStars, I know to little about this series to realy coment, but I have the reissue Starconvoy, and realy wand Grandus and Sky Garry.

Transformers G2 Autobot, Laser Prime. Horrible decals, but great weapon options and articulation. RID Scourge fans can attest!

Transformers G2 Decepticons. Well, I don't know what the G2 name is, but in Beast Wars Neo he was refered to as StarScream and BB. Great triple changer alt, with alt combination. Lots of fire power, and 2 cool bot modes.

Beast Wars Maximals, Optimal Optimus. Initialy I didn't like the look of him, but upon purchase, it's easy to see why he is both alpha and omega! Lots of transformation possiblities that far excede the box here. A fun Bot to play with!

Beast Wars Predicons, TerraGator. Probably the most neglected bot in TF history. The alt is so-so, but does offer snapping jaws! The transformation and articulation are great though, and with a very cool gun and full size shield, he realy makes for a great time

Beast Wars2 Maximal, Apache, he kinda looks like a Maximal Duke from GIJoe. The alt mode sucks, but the bot mode is well armed and the third mode is very intimidating. Guns and rockets everywhere!

Beast Wars2 Predicons, Galvatron. Just go get one, trust me all you hear about is Magmatron this and Magmatron that. This guy can kick his ass easy!

Beast Wars Neo Maximals, LongRack. A very complex transformation with alot of hidden details. Hidden weapons and a fing sculpt, this guy is alot of fun paired with Break and Stampy.

Beast Wars Neo Predicons, DeadEnd. I wish they would revisit him with a pearlcoat paint job cause if you can figure him out, he is an exquisit bot

Beast Machines Maximals, BlackArachnia. Acurate to the show, and a devine unexploiting example of how lovely and dangerious a female Transformer can be

Beast Machines Vehicons, Any of the drones. They captured the show counterparts down to the letter.

RID AutoBot, Prowl. Sleak, Articulate, lots of options for weapon positions. A dam fine figure with well placed Kibble

RID Predicons Slapper. Excellent articulation. I prefer the Beast Wars Blue colors, but this figure has a great transformation and range of movement

RID Decepticons, Scourge. Evil G2 Prime, wats not to love!!!

Armada AutoBots Red Alert. Hidden gimicks by the truck load, great articulation, and fun to use with the minicons.

Armada Decepticons SideWays, a nice revisit to the Headmaster idea. Not alot of articulation, but a great incorportaion of the headmasters(yes plural) acting as riders.

Armada MiniCons Sea Team. Only one word I can say about these guys "FUN"

Energon AutoBot Rodimus. Welcome back in a battle ready updated form. Nice alt, and great articulation!

Energon Decepticons DiveBomb. I can't get enough of posing that bird bot. The clear feathers in the wings make for a nice display

Cybetron AutoBot Optimus Prime, rivaled by maybe RID Prime, probably the best most versatile Prime ever


Cybretron Decepticons, Nemisis Breaker. A so-so alt, and not the best articulation, but he just screams sinister and evil!

Movie AutoBot, Longarm. Underrated, but a great bot to transform, exclent sculpt, and astounding weapon!

Movie Wreckage, could have easily been a ninja Megatron

Animated, I don't have any yet, so I can't say.

So if your still here, as far as must haves go, these are mine, but I still reiterate with what I started, collect what you like!

i agree with all of that but you didnt put my childhood hero armada tidalwave

Twin twist and an incomplete Skywarp.

There are figures in my collection that I think no-one should live without but other people don't share my opinion. I was shocked when I told someone how much I loved 08 BB and he said he hated it! So I wouldn't dare say what is a 'must have' cos everyone has different criteria and tastes.

Actually I've changed my mind - if you get a Prime you need the corrsponding Megatron and vice versa.

to me the ultimate collection piece and must have is cybertron ransack. i think the ultimate collection piece is what you want it to be my friend thinks its armada starscream but we all have diferent opinions. ransack could so own starscream jk

IMHO...collect what you like.

My collection...movie line.
09 BB, 09 Cliffjumper, G1 Target Exclusive Jazz, Target Exclusive Scout Air Raid, Barricade, Landmine, Longarm, and Stockade. Plus a wal-mart TF Universe 2 pack, Downshift and Cannonball...only $10...not bad, except the color of Downshift...lime green...might repaint him as Big Daddy!!

mattyc1007 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:I'm gonna side with Laspe on this. Collect what you like!

I have tons of bots fron every series and each hase it's own stand out molds, but who's to say whats right for me is right for others.

To some 08 BB is the holy grail, currently myself, I'm looking at Deathsarus and Victory Leo...

And next month I'll be looking for the next big guy, but I'm just at that point in my collection.

As far as "MUST HAVES" go though, I'll give you one frome each line.

G1 Autobot, BumbleBee. Quick, simple, endlessly fun, and an undeniable buddy, the pure epidimy of what an AutoBot is. Are there better, sure, but this little yellow guy has character.

G1 Decepticon, SoundWave, versatile, relatable, coniving and loyal at the same time, and plays well with others even if his knees are backwards.

HeadMasters AutoBot, PM Prime(Ginrah). Basicly a brick, but a scale upgrade of the AutoBot Leader, and a fine example of single bot multi piece alt tech

HeadMasters Decepticon, SixShot. The same principal as Prime, but instead of multi modes using various pieces, this is all done in one figure, which is still very much a brick.

MasterForce AutoBot, Siren, A smaller headmaster that uses the pilot seat as part of the bot mode to make for a clean looking figure(at least from the shoulders up.

MasterForce Decepticon HorriBull, the Bot mode is somewhat lax, however unlike the other Decepticon HeadMasters in this series, he has an almost realistic cyber/bot mode

TransFormers Victory Autobot, Victory Saber. Granted I don't know much about this series, but the BrainMaster design of this figure is a nice step forward from PM Prime. Very different alts, but the concept is both very similar and advanced which is a nice step forward.

Transformers Victory Decepticon Monstructor, one of the tiniest mainline combiners ever in cool dino shells, whats not to love!

Transformers Zone Autobot, Dai Atlas. I got him over the holidays, and his base alt is amazing! He can link with other MicroMaster bases such as CountDown, and even Star Convoy

Transformers Zone Decepticon, Predaking. I know he didn't actualy get a Zone retool, but he was in the one episode and is a nice way for me to work him into this

Transformers BattleStars, I know to little about this series to realy coment, but I have the reissue Starconvoy, and realy wand Grandus and Sky Garry.

Transformers G2 Autobot, Laser Prime. Horrible decals, but great weapon options and articulation. RID Scourge fans can attest!

Transformers G2 Decepticons. Well, I don't know what the G2 name is, but in Beast Wars Neo he was refered to as StarScream and BB. Great triple changer alt, with alt combination. Lots of fire power, and 2 cool bot modes.

Beast Wars Maximals, Optimal Optimus. Initialy I didn't like the look of him, but upon purchase, it's easy to see why he is both alpha and omega! Lots of transformation possiblities that far excede the box here. A fun Bot to play with!

Beast Wars Predicons, TerraGator. Probably the most neglected bot in TF history. The alt is so-so, but does offer snapping jaws! The transformation and articulation are great though, and with a very cool gun and full size shield, he realy makes for a great time

Beast Wars2 Maximal, Apache, he kinda looks like a Maximal Duke from GIJoe. The alt mode sucks, but the bot mode is well armed and the third mode is very intimidating. Guns and rockets everywhere!

Beast Wars2 Predicons, Galvatron. Just go get one, trust me all you hear about is Magmatron this and Magmatron that. This guy can kick his ass easy!

Beast Wars Neo Maximals, LongRack. A very complex transformation with alot of hidden details. Hidden weapons and a fing sculpt, this guy is alot of fun paired with Break and Stampy.

Beast Wars Neo Predicons, DeadEnd. I wish they would revisit him with a pearlcoat paint job cause if you can figure him out, he is an exquisit bot

Beast Machines Maximals, BlackArachnia. Acurate to the show, and a devine unexploiting example of how lovely and dangerious a female Transformer can be

Beast Machines Vehicons, Any of the drones. They captured the show counterparts down to the letter.

RID AutoBot, Prowl. Sleak, Articulate, lots of options for weapon positions. A dam fine figure with well placed Kibble

RID Predicons Slapper. Excellent articulation. I prefer the Beast Wars Blue colors, but this figure has a great transformation and range of movement

RID Decepticons, Scourge. Evil G2 Prime, wats not to love!!!

Armada AutoBots Red Alert. Hidden gimicks by the truck load, great articulation, and fun to use with the minicons.

Armada Decepticons SideWays, a nice revisit to the Headmaster idea. Not alot of articulation, but a great incorportaion of the headmasters(yes plural) acting as riders.

Armada MiniCons Sea Team. Only one word I can say about these guys "FUN"

Energon AutoBot Rodimus. Welcome back in a battle ready updated form. Nice alt, and great articulation!

Energon Decepticons DiveBomb. I can't get enough of posing that bird bot. The clear feathers in the wings make for a nice display

Cybetron AutoBot Optimus Prime, rivaled by maybe RID Prime, probably the best most versatile Prime ever


Cybretron Decepticons, Nemisis Breaker. A so-so alt, and not the best articulation, but he just screams sinister and evil!

Movie AutoBot, Longarm. Underrated, but a great bot to transform, exclent sculpt, and astounding weapon!

Movie Wreckage, could have easily been a ninja Megatron

Animated, I don't have any yet, so I can't say.

So if your still here, as far as must haves go, these are mine, but I still reiterate with what I started, collect what you like!

i agree with all of that but you didnt put my childhood hero armada tidalwave

He was close in the running, but I wanted to use this opertunity to bring to light some side blinded figs who fell but the way side when compaired to the limelight bots...

Basicly every bot I mentioned from each line can be surpasses numerious times over, but when getting to the NittyGritty of TF fun that anyone could afford, here's my list of Must Haves.

zerenos wrote:to me the ultimate collection piece and must have is cybertron ransack. i think the ultimate collection piece is what you want it to be my friend thinks its armada starscream but we all have diferent opinions. ransack could so own starscream jk

we could have a very big argument over that but i need to ask is that armada starscream on his own or his micron legends better built conterpart aswell?

I think that every TF fan should have a Cybertron Cryo Scourge, A movie Arcee, and at least one classics fig, plus, you need to be working towards a BW10th anniversary Transmutate.
Thats what I'm doin.

Ugh.. Costco Armada Prime and Overload.. That thing is Legendary