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Hmm, I guess that's true. But it'd be hard for me to see them as anything less than friends. There should always be some camaraderie even between the villains, I like to think the only reason Thundercracker is there is because of Skywarp's stubborn blind hero worship of Megatron.

Anyhoo, this is all subjective, and I don't want to derail the topic.

Tekka wrote:Hmm, I guess that's true. But it'd be hard for me to see them as anything less than friends. There should always be some camaraderie even between the villains, I like to think the only reason Thundercracker is there is because of Skywarp's stubborn blind hero worship of Megatron.

Anyhoo, this is all subjective, and I don't want to derail the topic.

Agreed.. but I will say this, that if Thundercracker gets created next as MP-07, then he will be on my shelf next to Skywarp on the left side of Megs, with the 2 Starscreams on the other side...one as the real one, the other as the drone..

Soundwave would be interesting as a Masterpiece, only it would be the tapes that would have more interst for me to see how they do them differently from the originals..

I still would like to see Rodimus Prime next, but time will tell if they go season 3 route or if they decide to do updated Masterpiece versions of the regular autobots..

I vote for Bumblebee next, easy cliff jumper repaint

or Silverstreak/Prowl
Jazz, or Hound,
Sunstreaker/sideswipe
Ironhide/ratchet..

Ect..

You know what though, it almost feels like Binaltech all over again with them doing that.. I would kinda want to wait to see some autobots come out till later, so the Binaltech feeling dies down some more...

MP Soundwave should have regular sized tapes.

Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere.

SD slot will make him music label.

Playing real tapes will be better. Plus play CD if possible. Put a slit somewhere hidden behind, for CD slot-in.

The only problem with him playing tapes would be.... they're tapes. =( A discreet SD slot linked to a small MP3 Player would be just fine.

Tekka wrote:The only problem with him playing tapes would be.... they're tapes. =( A discreet SD slot linked to a small MP3 Player would be just fine.

Why not? I've had a cassette walkman player that's almost as thin as the tape itself. Practically, just a skin sheet over the tape. Fully functional. With radio, recording, digital display, the works! It's an Aiwa. I guess they utilized miniature motors and electronics.

Since MP Soundwave should be quite big, they can take that mini Aiwa components, and use it for Soundwave. It will take up probably a few millimeters of Soundwave's inner chest. Won't even affect his transformability.

Then the package can include Laserbeak tape in the regular tape-size. But he can't play music, of course.

Use Laserbeak, for play fun.

Use real tapes for music.

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. :P Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere. :D

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Very intriguing, the working Soundwave idea. But, all things considered, I have a tape deck already. In reality, if MP Soundwave was a working tape deck, I probably wouldn't buy him becuase that just sounds tacked on to me. MP Megatron isn't a working firearm, so real functionality isn't a built-in MP component. Just saying, the MP3 Soundwave is an awesome idea.
But I don't need a big working tape deck with a $100 price tag. I didn't spend $100 on a tape deck in the 80s when tape decks were expensive.

I wouldn't want them to have to compromise on the design of Soundwave to incoroiporate the gimmicks and electronics of making him a working tape deck.. however I hope they incorporate an extra space for the tapes themselves, like to have maybe 2 carried in his chest.. but then again having the chest prongs there would make him authentic...

skywarp-2 wrote:I wouldn't want them to have to compromise on the design of Soundwave to incoroiporate the gimmicks and electronics of making him a working tape deck.. however I hope they incorporate an extra space for the tapes themselves, like to have maybe 2 carried in his chest.. but then again having the chest prongs there would make him authentic...

Yes. I'd be worried that working features would comprimise the figure.

skywarp-2 wrote:

AlienQuiksilver wrote:I'd rather get TC out of the way now ... rather than the possibility of him remain looming over our heads. This way, we'd know that something "new" would be coming out next.

That's just me though.

that idea wouldn't be so bad.. or Rodimus Prime then thundercracker.. but it kinda defeats the purpose I guess of releasing him later when everyone kinda thinks of them together..as partners or something.. truth is, Skywarp really detested Thundercracker and Starscream...


I think he was more about Megatron...



Or Megatron was his Bitch....

You and your love for Rodimus Prime... I think you should consider changing your avatar to Roddy.

Dagon wrote:Very intriguing, the working Soundwave idea. But, all things considered, I have a tape deck already. In reality, if MP Soundwave was a working tape deck, I probably wouldn't buy him becuase that just sounds tacked on to me. MP Megatron isn't a working firearm, so real functionality isn't a built-in MP component. Just saying, the MP3 Soundwave is an awesome idea.
But I don't need a big working tape deck with a $100 price tag. I didn't spend $100 on a tape deck in the 80s when tape decks were expensive.

In that case, we don't have to incorporate the MP3 either. Since he won't be a real working music player. Instead, maximize on the transformation and gimmicks.

Further cutting down the SRP.

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Dagon wrote:Very intriguing, the working Soundwave idea. But, all things considered, I have a tape deck already. In reality, if MP Soundwave was a working tape deck, I probably wouldn't buy him becuase that just sounds tacked on to me. MP Megatron isn't a working firearm, so real functionality isn't a built-in MP component. Just saying, the MP3 Soundwave is an awesome idea.
But I don't need a big working tape deck with a $100 price tag. I didn't spend $100 on a tape deck in the 80s when tape decks were expensive.

In that case, we don't have to incorporate the MP3 either. Since he won't be a real working music player. Instead, maximize on the transformation and gimmicks.

Exactly. Sure it's nice to dream big and hope for a working Soundwave tape player. But, you know, it comes down to what you want. Do you want a tape player resembling Soundwave or do you want a kickass Soundwave figure. The MP3 MP element might work better, but I'm more interested in a true MP Soundwave. A working one would be kind of cool, but I wouldn't want a cool SOundwave, I want a Masterpiece.

For the record, a working Soundwave tape player has been made ...

Although it is lame.

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere.

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

lanzajr26 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere.

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

QFT...

For the sake of an addition the size of a USB flash drive, I can't see it doing much harm. It wouldn't detract from what would undoubtedly be a superb masterpiece mold. =(

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. :P Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere. :D

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

QFT...

Agreed. I was just saying "if". I don't need a masterpiece to actually be a working radio, tape player, or MP3 player. The original wasn't, why should a Masterpiece?

DevastaTTor wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere.

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

QFT...

Agreed. I was just saying "if". I don't need a masterpiece to actually be a working radio, tape player, or MP3 player. The original wasn't, why should a Masterpiece?

You had me convinced. Ditch the music. Focus on making MP Soundwave a real Masterpiece!

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DevastaTTor wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. :P Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere. :D

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

QFT...

Agreed. I was just saying "if". I don't need a masterpiece to actually be a working radio, tape player, or MP3 player. The original wasn't, why should a Masterpiece?

You had me convinced. Ditch the music. Focus on making MP Soundwave a real Masterpiece!

Yeah, now let's hope it actually happens. Just watch, after all this, it'll be MP Wheelie.

DevastaTTor wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere.

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

QFT...

Agreed. I was just saying "if". I don't need a masterpiece to actually be a working radio, tape player, or MP3 player. The original wasn't, why should a Masterpiece?

You had me convinced. Ditch the music. Focus on making MP Soundwave a real Masterpiece!

Yeah, now let's hope it actually happens. Just watch, after all this, it'll be MP Wheelie.

Holy crap! They better leave out the sounds gimmick!

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DevastaTTor wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

lanzajr26 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

Tekka wrote:Make him play actual tapes. That would be a true masterpiece. :P Or failing that, give him an SD slot somewhere. :D

What would be the point of him play tapes? It's a long dead format and would be essentially worthless. I agree that he should have a tape area for Ravage or Lazerbeak, etc. But if he's going to play music, a card slot or internal memory (HD or flash) for MP3s would be good.

Why have him play music at all? We already have a Sound Label version for just that purpose. Put the money towards making Soundwave a kick ass mold, make Laserbeak/whoever transformable tapes like the original and leave it at that.

QFT...

Agreed. I was just saying "if". I don't need a masterpiece to actually be a working radio, tape player, or MP3 player. The original wasn't, why should a Masterpiece?

You had me convinced. Ditch the music. Focus on making MP Soundwave a real Masterpiece!

Yeah, now let's hope it actually happens. Just watch, after all this, it'll be MP Wheelie.

Holy crap! They better leave out the sounds gimmick!

The thought does make one shudder, doesn't it...

Toyotus Superion wrote:

Stormrider wrote:What would be the irony if they MP-07 is one of the molds they have already used?

That isnt called irony. Its called hasbro/takara business practices. My bet is on another repaint. Probably Nemesis Prime or Thundercracker.

Or a Black Megatron

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Stormrider wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:MP Soundwave sounds good. But wouldn't he be a giant cassette recorder in the MP size? Like what happened to MP Megatron.

That wouldn't deter me. I would probably keep him in his robot mode most of the time.

Unless they modify his alt mode into some bigger boombox, but still maintain the G1 robot design.

They wouldnt have to modify it much.He already looked like a boombox to me.