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ahh pretty cool! but i still prefer mp grimlock or rodimus .

MP unicron would be cool can image the detail they could get on his planet form.

Is there a certain time of year where we get official news of a new MP figure? What month's where Megatron and Skywarp announced?

Shockwave06 wrote:Is there a certain time of year where we get official news of a new MP figure? What month's where Megatron and Skywarp announced?

Nothing is set in stone, however, the last several MP's were announced while the previous one was being released. So, it makes sense that we are starting to hear some hints now.

My guess is that we'll never see another one charcater mold in the MP line.I'm speeking from a busnesses point of view.It makes more sence for them to put out a mold that, could ether be repainted or a slite remold, into an other charcater.Megatron has been the only one so far that was a single chacravter and even he could be repainted into the e-hobby all black color schieme.My guess we'll see Soundwave,Prowl,Ironhide,a Conehead,Trailbreacker and Sideswipe long before we see anybody like Grimlock or Rodimus.

If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

I dont think Takara would be doing a MP Grimlock in G2 colors seeing that Takara never had a G2 line up.That was a Hasbro creation.G2 was Hasbro's try to recreat the franchise.......Takara never released a G2 toyline.....so why would they plan a G2 MP any body much less make a G2 color scheme their primeray design?????

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

I dont think Takara would be doing a MP Grimlock in G2 colors seeing that Takara never had a G2 line up.That was a Hasbro creation.G2 was Hasbro's try to recreat the franchise.......Takara never released a G2 toyline.....so why would they plan a G2 MP any body much less make a G2 color scheme their primeray design?????

They did have a G2. They even had comics that went with the toys. And a whole story that tied into the Return of Convoy (Prime downgraded to his Action Master form as that was more versitile, Megs survived his encounter ... they made peace and worse giant capes ... fun stuff).

Takara does funny stuff sometimes too. G2 Ultra Magnus seemed to reference Allignment in his story. Grey Galvatron referenced Marvel's comics as well. And Takara's MP Screamer referenced absolutely nothing with it's color scheme.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

I dont think Takara would be doing a MP Grimlock in G2 colors seeing that Takara never had a G2 line up.That was a Hasbro creation.G2 was Hasbro's try to recreat the franchise.......Takara never released a G2 toyline.....so why would they plan a G2 MP any body much less make a G2 color scheme their primeray design?????

They did have a G2. They even had comics that went with the toys. And a whole story that tied into the Return of Convoy (Prime downgraded to his Action Master form as that was more versitile, Megs survived his encounter ... they made peace and worse giant capes ... fun stuff).

Takara does funny stuff sometimes too. G2 Ultra Magnus seemed to reference Allignment in his story. Grey Galvatron referenced Marvel's comics as well. And Takara's MP Screamer referenced absolutely nothing with it's color scheme.

Actionmaster Optimus Prime was called Ginrai in Japan and was never a down graded Prime, according to Japanese Canon, he was destroyed. Ginrai is a totally new character and not Optimus Prime..

And yeah, I think your wrong about Rodimus Prime.. actually I think Your wrong about alot of stuff but hey, that's just my opinion..

As Far as Soundwave is concerned.. it's too much Decepticons too soon, we need to throw some Autobots in there for awhile to break up the monotiny, besides lets think about this logically, Takara has been on a Streak of Decepticons lately, partially because they can, and will with Remolds.. and have a successful sale with the 3 original Seekers..

But to keep interest and freshin up the series, what characters would most likely be recognized by the Japanese Market??

Rodimus Prime, and a Complete Ultra Magnus.. it makes perfect sense.. with the Complete Magnus with armored trailer, they once again get mileage from the Optimus Prime mold, and with Rodimus Prime, they get a commander that is well recognized by Japanese fans...

Let's all remember, though thinking Grimlock would be a great toy to add to the Masterpiece line up, these Masterpieces are afterall, a Takara Product and made for their fanbase which is mostly the peoples of Japan.. the bonus is the exporting of that item for us to enjoy here and in other areas of the world...

the only other mold I think they would jump on right away besides Rodimus and Ultra Magnus would have to be sideswipe and sunstreaker.. sideswipe because I know that those guys were very popular in Japan, in the BT lines and the comics from Dreamwave as well as aftermarket G-1 sales and reissues of them..

Actionmaster Optimus Prime was called Ginrai in Japan and was never a down graded Prime, according to Japanese Canon, he was destroyed. Ginrai is a totally new character and not Optimus Prime..

No, it's definately Prime after he stopped being Star Convoy. I mean .... maybe Ginarai also became an action master at some point. I never heard of that, but it could happen. But AM Prime was his his intermediate mode after Star Convoy, but before G2 Battle Convoy. THAT'S how the Japanese justify it's existence. And I'm DEFINATELY not wrong about G2 being in Japan.

I dunno why the Japanese wouldn't recognise Grimlock. the Autobot cares would make nice MPs, but don't you think that's a little close to Alternators?

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

I dont think Takara would be doing a MP Grimlock in G2 colors seeing that Takara never had a G2 line up.That was a Hasbro creation.G2 was Hasbro's try to recreat the franchise.......Takara never released a G2 toyline.....so why would they plan a G2 MP any body much less make a G2 color scheme their primeray design?????

They did have a G2. They even had comics that went with the toys. And a whole story that tied into the Return of Convoy (Prime downgraded to his Action Master form as that was more versitile, Megs survived his encounter ... they made peace and worse giant capes ... fun stuff).

Takara does funny stuff sometimes too. G2 Ultra Magnus seemed to reference Allignment in his story. Grey Galvatron referenced Marvel's comics as well. And Takara's MP Screamer referenced absolutely nothing with it's color scheme.

I knew about those stories but I thought they were all part of the Return of Convoy story and toyline.But every Grimlock figure I saw from those toylines and the Manga scans I've seen had his original colors.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Actionmaster Optimus Prime was called Ginrai in Japan and was never a down graded Prime, according to Japanese Canon, he was destroyed. Ginrai is a totally new character and not Optimus Prime..

No, it's definately Prime after he stopped being Star Convoy. I mean .... maybe Ginarai also became an action master at some point. I never heard of that, but it could happen. But AM Prime was his his intermediate mode after Star Convoy, but before G2 Battle Convoy. THAT'S how the Japanese justify it's existence. And I'm DEFINATELY not wrong about G2 being in Japan.

I dunno why the Japanese wouldn't recognise Grimlock. the Autobot cares would make nice MPs, but don't you think that's a little close to Alternators?

Cool something I've never seen.......Thank you very much.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

I dont think Takara would be doing a MP Grimlock in G2 colors seeing that Takara never had a G2 line up.That was a Hasbro creation.G2 was Hasbro's try to recreat the franchise.......Takara never released a G2 toyline.....so why would they plan a G2 MP any body much less make a G2 color scheme their primeray design?????

They did have a G2. They even had comics that went with the toys. And a whole story that tied into the Return of Convoy (Prime downgraded to his Action Master form as that was more versitile, Megs survived his encounter ... they made peace and worse giant capes ... fun stuff).

Takara does funny stuff sometimes too. G2 Ultra Magnus seemed to reference Allignment in his story. Grey Galvatron referenced Marvel's comics as well. And Takara's MP Screamer referenced absolutely nothing with it's color scheme.

I knew about those stories but I thought they were all part of the Return of Convoy story and toyline.But every Grimlock figure I saw from those toylines and the Manga scans I've seen had his original colors.

No, that's Japanese G2. Star Convoy ended when he blew up Megatron / Dark Nova (or whatever the Unicron rip-off's name was).

Even if he wasn't released there (for the sake of argument) it doesn't mean they wouldn't homage him.

Edit: No prob. There's ALOT of these scans lying around .... search for Japanese G2 in Google.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're going by precident though, Rodimus could be Primus or Menasaur. There could even be a "hate plague" Rodimus.

Grimlock could be .... G2 Grimlock?

Anyhow, I agree witht he poeple who said Rodimus was a wuss. I like Hot Rod, but Roddy? Roddy's that creepy old guy who could never get over the fact that he's not as cool as he was back in high school.

Soundwave might be nice, but ... that MP3 Soundwave really is the ultimate release and reinvention of the character, isn't he? Even a tape playing Soundwave wouldn't top it as nobody plays tapes anymore.

Give us Grimlock!

Edit: Actually, you know what? If this Soundwave actually did play MP3s and has a small (but good) speaker system in his legs, it'd be a nice Masterpeice. Hell, if they could amke it so he could still use the old G1 tapes, that's be nice too.

And I just thought of Grinlock's recoloration too. It's brilliance, really. You see, they release Grimlock in a more realistic deep green color scheme and then then release him in his G1-inspired color scheme. Naturally it'll have to be a store exclusive.

I dont think Takara would be doing a MP Grimlock in G2 colors seeing that Takara never had a G2 line up.That was a Hasbro creation.G2 was Hasbro's try to recreat the franchise.......Takara never released a G2 toyline.....so why would they plan a G2 MP any body much less make a G2 color scheme their primeray design?????

They did have a G2. They even had comics that went with the toys. And a whole story that tied into the Return of Convoy (Prime downgraded to his Action Master form as that was more versitile, Megs survived his encounter ... they made peace and worse giant capes ... fun stuff).

Takara does funny stuff sometimes too. G2 Ultra Magnus seemed to reference Allignment in his story. Grey Galvatron referenced Marvel's comics as well. And Takara's MP Screamer referenced absolutely nothing with it's color scheme.

I knew about those stories but I thought they were all part of the Return of Convoy story and toyline.But every Grimlock figure I saw from those toylines and the Manga scans I've seen had his original colors.

No, that's Japanese G2. Star Convoy ended when he blew up Megatron / Dark Nova (or whatever the Unicron rip-off's name was).

Even if he wasn't released there (for the sake of argument) it doesn't mean they wouldn't homage him.

Edit: No prob. There's ALOT of these scans lying around .... search for Japanese G2 in Google.

I guess and thanks for the hint.

Maybe there's so many cons to make up for the lack of them in the Binaltech line?

HMMMMM interesting stuff...indeed.. I may have to revise my working timelines and trying to sort out the fdifferences in the toylines and continuities...

Still G2 Optimus Prime and what have you or even Grimlock are just not as popular as Rodimus, I stil say he's next...or Ultra Magnus complete..

skywarp-2 wrote:HMMMMM interesting stuff...indeed.. I may have to revise my working timelines and trying to sort out the fdifferences in the toylines and continuities...

Still G2 Optimus Prime and what have you or even Grimlock are just not as popular as Rodimus, I stil say he's next...or Ultra Magnus complete..

Well .... Hot Rod's pretty popular. I dunno about Roddy. He's seeing love recently, though so he could be next.

UM ... isn't that prohibitavely expencive? G1 Prime's trailer is really just a big opening box, but to be done right UM's trailer would have to be something along the lines of what Mark did for his custom (I think his name was Mark). It just seems like Takara is beginning to cut costs in these lines (Kiss Players are plastic, Megs and screamer's plastic). You have a point about repaintability, but they really can repaint them as anyone they choose regardless of sense.

I'm HOPING for Grimlock, but it really could be nyone. Although it's likely to be someone they've been doing alot of. Like Bumblebee. Although that's awful close to Alternators ...

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:HMMMMM interesting stuff...indeed.. I may have to revise my working timelines and trying to sort out the fdifferences in the toylines and continuities...

Still G2 Optimus Prime and what have you or even Grimlock are just not as popular as Rodimus, I stil say he's next...or Ultra Magnus complete..

Well .... Hot Rod's pretty popular. I dunno about Roddy. He's seeing love recently, though so he could be next.

UM ... isn't that prohibitavely expencive? G1 Prime's trailer is really just a big opening box, but to be done right UM's trailer would have to be something along the lines of what Mark did for his custom (I think his name was Mark). It just seems like Takara is beginning to cut costs in these lines (Kiss Players are plastic, Megs and screamer's plastic). You have a point about repaintability, but they really can repaint them as anyone they choose regardless of sense.

I'm HOPING for Grimlock, but it really could be nyone. Although it's likely to be someone they've been doing alot of. Like Bumblebee. Although that's awful close to Alternators ...

yeah, but if you think about it, th ehard part was already done on Magnus.. witht he Optimus Mold.... alll the engineering put into the toy would be in the trailer, which could yield a nice toy in the end...

hopefully like this:





I'd buy the optimus mold once more for that guy!!!

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:My guess is that we'll never see another one charcater mold in the MP line.I'm speeking from a busnesses point of view.It makes more sence for them to put out a mold that, could ether be repainted or a slite remold, into an other charcater.Megatron has been the only one so far that was a single chacravter and even he could be repainted into the e-hobby all black color schieme.My guess we'll see Soundwave,Prowl,Ironhide,a Conehead,Trailbreacker and Sideswipe long before we see anybody like Grimlock or Rodimus.

You're thinking 1-dimensionally. Takara can always do reissues. Look at MP Convoy. He has already been reissued twice. Once as MP-01 last year. The second time as MP-04, also last year. And MP Megatron is already seeing a reissue within his first year's release.

Takara loves to do reissues. Look at the Encore series, the G1 Collection series, the Collector's Edition, and not to forget the countless Beast Wars reissues.

Stormrider wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:My guess is that we'll never see another one charcater mold in the MP line.I'm speeking from a busnesses point of view.It makes more sence for them to put out a mold that, could ether be repainted or a slite remold, into an other charcater.Megatron has been the only one so far that was a single chacravter and even he could be repainted into the e-hobby all black color schieme.My guess we'll see Soundwave,Prowl,Ironhide,a Conehead,Trailbreacker and Sideswipe long before we see anybody like Grimlock or Rodimus.

You're thinking 1-dimensionally. Takara can always do reissues. Look at MP Convoy. He has already been reissued twice. Once as MP-01 last year. The second time as MP-04, also last year. And MP Megatron is already seeing a reissue within his first year's release.

Takara loves to do reissues. Look at the Encore series, the G1 Collection series, the Collector's Edition, and not to forget the countless Beast Wars reissues.

I get what your saying but the way I see it its worth the Gamble with Prime and Meg's cause almost everybody would shell out the cash for the leaders even with bad reviews but would they do the same for other characters????? Maybee but Takara might not be willing to make that gamble.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:My guess is that we'll never see another one charcater mold in the MP line.I'm speeking from a busnesses point of view.It makes more sence for them to put out a mold that, could ether be repainted or a slite remold, into an other charcater.Megatron has been the only one so far that was a single chacravter and even he could be repainted into the e-hobby all black color schieme.My guess we'll see Soundwave,Prowl,Ironhide,a Conehead,Trailbreacker and Sideswipe long before we see anybody like Grimlock or Rodimus.

You're thinking 1-dimensionally. Takara can always do reissues. Look at MP Convoy. He has already been reissued twice. Once as MP-01 last year. The second time as MP-04, also last year. And MP Megatron is already seeing a reissue within his first year's release.

Takara loves to do reissues. Look at the Encore series, the G1 Collection series, the Collector's Edition, and not to forget the countless Beast Wars reissues.

I get what your saying but the way I see it its worth the Gamble with Prime and Meg's cause almost everybody would shell out the cash for the leaders even with bad reviews but would they do the same for other characters????? Maybee but Takara might not be willing to make that gamble.

You have a legitimate point but Takara has done some surprising things lately. A year ago most people thought we would never see an MP Megatron gun. Too hard to engineer and too expensive were the most common concerns. The Sports Label shoes have also been a bit of a shocker. The only certainity right now is that Takara has reported that they plan to market their toys for the 20-30 year olds. This could mean more toys that have wanted.

Stormrider wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:My guess is that we'll never see another one charcater mold in the MP line.I'm speeking from a busnesses point of view.It makes more sence for them to put out a mold that, could ether be repainted or a slite remold, into an other charcater.Megatron has been the only one so far that was a single chacravter and even he could be repainted into the e-hobby all black color schieme.My guess we'll see Soundwave,Prowl,Ironhide,a Conehead,Trailbreacker and Sideswipe long before we see anybody like Grimlock or Rodimus.

You're thinking 1-dimensionally. Takara can always do reissues. Look at MP Convoy. He has already been reissued twice. Once as MP-01 last year. The second time as MP-04, also last year. And MP Megatron is already seeing a reissue within his first year's release.

Takara loves to do reissues. Look at the Encore series, the G1 Collection series, the Collector's Edition, and not to forget the countless Beast Wars reissues.

I get what your saying but the way I see it its worth the Gamble with Prime and Meg's cause almost everybody would shell out the cash for the leaders even with bad reviews but would they do the same for other characters????? Maybee but Takara might not be willing to make that gamble.

You have a legitimate point but Takara has done some surprising things lately. A year ago most people thought we would never see an MP Megatron gun. Too hard to engineer and too expensive were the most common concerns. The Sports Label shoes have also been a bit of a shocker. The only certainity right now is that Takara has reported that they plan to market their toys for the 20-30 year olds. This could mean more toys that have wanted.

You have a good point as well..the sneaker thin was a bit of a shock to me but it passed very fast cause I wasnt very interested.But MP Megatron being made was no shock to me at all.I've been in retail all my life and if there only one thing I've learned is that if theres a high demand for it the manerfacture will stop at almost nothing to make a collecters peice.As soon as I heard about a MP Prime I knew it was only a matter of time till we saw a MP Megatron.Thew only shock to me was that it took as long as it did.I would have guess we'd see Megs before Starscream.

if they do make MP Soundwave, then they better do an MP Blaster next.



And for the price, shouldn't they do all four of the season 1 cassettes?

The problem with Ultra Magnus complete is that they've already done Prime. Several times. Prime is a garuntteed sell, so it makes sence to release a "perfect" edition, especially since a few customers were doing the same thing.

Mangus really is just a "white Prime". And they have't really shown very much concern into doing him "right".

Grimlock is just a cool transformer that would sell. We've seen several releases of him so far. Granted, some of those have been US-only, but I can tell you for a fact that he was imported. They sell for about $80 no less (as well as other comperable Classics). You could arge the repaint thing, but I don't think they're concerned with making a somewhat innaccurate repaint of an existing Masterpeice. MP Skywarp, for example, still comes with Dr. Archivelle. UM came with a repainted Megs and not Galvatron. They really could just repaint Grim into Trypticon and slightly remold the head, if anything.

Jetfire is actually a good candidate too. There's been a few homages and Jetfires lately.