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News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:08 am

Devastron wrote:If it isn’t in continuity then it didn’t happen to the ‘real’ Batman as far as DC is considered. If you can’t even decide to debate the current in continuity Batman then there isn’t any purpose to this debate. You’ll just pull whatever you want from out of continuity stories.

Like I said continuity is a relitive term but I didnt site those out of continuity exsamples to further my point in this debate....I posted them to answer your questions.

If you only wanted answers from the current in continuity Batman stories you should have said so in your quistions :-P

Devastron wrote:I assume you mean what did I think. I was asking what he reverse engineered from it. Did he make his own Mother Box from it? Did he just make a device that mimics some of its abilities? Can you provide some evidence of this?

I did meen "DID" ,and from what I remember he ether made his own Mother Box or at least one with some of its abilities.Its been a very long time since I read those books and I dont quite remember all of the story.I will try to look for them.

Devastron wrote:I’ve heard they are thinking about killing him off.

And turning him into a NEW GOD.This might be some leaked rumer but they do seem to be setting it up.In the recent issue of Superman/Batman, Bruce picks up Highfathers staff and is able to use it....and as far as I know no human has been able to do that before.

I could be wrong about that little bit.

Devastron wrote:It’s a simple ‘vs’ thread with no additional information. Assuming more than a fight seems like a stretch.

Its a stretch ether way and since others have already deveated from the simple answers whats the harm in me doing so as well?

Devastron wrote:No, I just consider Stark to be ahead of Oracle in computer skill.

I would like to think so too but she has hacked every system in the DC universe so again it comes down to wether or not the people in the Marvel U are just smarter and can create better computers then those in the DC U.

Devastron wrote:Tony didn’t know Spider-man as well as or for as long as Bats knew the League. I doubt he has files as detailed as Batman had.

He may not have knowen Peter as long but if were to believe that he's been planning the events that lead to the "Civil War" story arc and the things we learn about him and his plans from the Avengers Illuminati stories then he would have been keeping files on Peter for at least 8 years comic book time.

As for the amount of time Batmans had to compile his files???

DC has him currently at about age 35 to 38.The age of his parents dieing changes every few years but the age he is when he become Batman roughly stays at about 25.

Dick Grayson joins him about 3 years later and about a year or to more he joins the League.So that puts him at about between 28 and 30 when he joins the League.

Givin the fact that its been said that he didnt start gathering those files untill he was mind wiped by Zantana witch had to be at least a year later it would seem that Bat's was only gathering his files on the League for about 10 years not much longer the Tony when you think about it.

But I'll admit that so much history should have taken much more time in Batman's life but since you said
"If it isn’t in continuity then it didn’t happen to the ‘real’ Batman as far as DC is considered"
and this is in continuity and happened to the real Batman.

Devastron wrote: I also doubt these files would be in an area they could be hacked into.

Tony has a group of guys in armor called the "Scarlet Spiders" running around town useing the info he gathered from Peter when he was using the "Iron Spidy" suit.These guys have some if not all of Peters powers that the suits can mimic.

It wouldnt be hard at all for Batman to capture one of those guys and download all the info.

Devastron wrote:This is assuming he could get to Spider-man’s loved ones,

He could find them and get to them eazyly.

Devastron wrote: or that Spidey wouldn’t just call his bluff. Spider-sense would probably come in handy in those situations too.

First I doubt that Peter would take the chance that it could be a bluff.His Spider-sense has failed him in the past and there are a few that have been able to counter act it.Peter knows that.

Also if Bats gets a hold of Starks info he could also construct something that could render his Spider-sense useless.

Devastron wrote:Can you try and clean up your spelling a bit? I’m having a hard time figuring out what you are saying at some points.

I'll try but between not being able to sleep in 3 days and the meds the docs got me on for other issues my head is real fuzzy.

Tell me how I did spelling on this post?

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:14 pm

They want to turn Batsy into a God?!, Wow that's that's lame, I think I now have a reason to hate Batman.

Remember, this is a fight between two different comic companies, meaning there no canon, not in continuity, so everything ever about a opponent in it will be valid.

I'm sorry to say, but I do think the DC pp are complete retards, I mean they never figured out Superman's ingenuous disguise!

But I think everybody's forgetting Spider-Mans new powers!
The badass sword fangs in his arms (oh how I hate that), the super sensitive Spider sense, which kinda gives him a IR sight (that is kinda cool) and his ability to eat pp faces! :shock:

Which reminds me, that last time someone attacked Mary Jane, he broke his arm, pined him (yes pinned him, like with his new arm sword thingys) down to the ground and eat his face with his freaky new monster fangs,- and he did that wile dieing.

Now after Civil War, I don't have any fun at reading Spidy anymore, now that they want to do a crappy thing with Batman oh well I will just stop reading Superhero comics then.

Oh yea I did say I wouldn't post anymore, but you wanted me to come back! :grin:

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:52 pm

Dead Metal wrote:They want to turn Batsy into a God?!, Wow that's that's lame, I think I now have a reason to hate Batman.

Remember, this is a fight between two different comic companies, meaning there no canon, not in continuity, so everything ever about a opponent in it will be valid.

I'm sorry to say, but I do think the DC pp are complete retards, I mean they never figured out Superman's ingenuous disguise!

But I think everybody's forgetting Spider-Mans new powers!
The badass sword fangs in his arms (oh how I hate that), the super sensitive Spider sense, which kinda gives him a IR sight (that is kinda cool) and his ability to eat pp faces!

Which reminds me, that last time someone attacked Mary Jane, he broke his arm, pined him (yes pinned him, like with his new arm sword thingys) down to the ground and eat his face with his freaky new monster fangs,- and he did that wile dieing.

Now after Civil War, I don't have any fun at reading Spidy anymore, now that they want to do a crappy thing with Batman oh well I will just stop reading Superhero comics then.

Oh yea I did say I wouldn't post anymore, but you wanted me to come back!

Good to have you back :grin:

But yeah its a stupid idea to make the Bat a god but lets face it....it will only be temperaroy.He'll be back to normal in about a year of so.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:02 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:They want to turn Batsy into a God?!, Wow that's that's lame, I think I now have a reason to hate Batman.

Remember, this is a fight between two different comic companies, meaning there no canon, not in continuity, so everything ever about a opponent in it will be valid.

I'm sorry to say, but I do think the DC pp are complete retards, I mean they never figured out Superman's ingenuous disguise!

But I think everybody's forgetting Spider-Mans new powers!
The badass sword fangs in his arms (oh how I hate that), the super sensitive Spider sense, which kinda gives him a IR sight (that is kinda cool) and his ability to eat pp faces!

Which reminds me, that last time someone attacked Mary Jane, he broke his arm, pined him (yes pinned him, like with his new arm sword thingys) down to the ground and eat his face with his freaky new monster fangs,- and he did that wile dieing.

Now after Civil War, I don't have any fun at reading Spidy anymore, now that they want to do a crappy thing with Batman oh well I will just stop reading Superhero comics then.

Oh yea I did say I wouldn't post anymore, but you wanted me to come back!

Good to have you back But yeah its a stupid idea to make the Bat a god but lets face it....it will only be temperaroy.He'll be back to normal in about a year of so.

Maybee, but maybe he'll stay that way, just like Spider-Man will now always be that f up like now, I mean hello?
Why give up his identety and all that stuff.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:00 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:They want to turn Batsy into a God?!, Wow that's that's lame, I think I now have a reason to hate Batman.

Remember, this is a fight between two different comic companies, meaning there no canon, not in continuity, so everything ever about a opponent in it will be valid.

I'm sorry to say, but I do think the DC pp are complete retards, I mean they never figured out Superman's ingenuous disguise!

But I think everybody's forgetting Spider-Mans new powers!
The badass sword fangs in his arms (oh how I hate that), the super sensitive Spider sense, which kinda gives him a IR sight (that is kinda cool) and his ability to eat pp faces!

Which reminds me, that last time someone attacked Mary Jane, he broke his arm, pined him (yes pinned him, like with his new arm sword thingys) down to the ground and eat his face with his freaky new monster fangs,- and he did that wile dieing.

Now after Civil War, I don't have any fun at reading Spidy anymore, now that they want to do a crappy thing with Batman oh well I will just stop reading Superhero comics then.

Oh yea I did say I wouldn't post anymore, but you wanted me to come back!

Good to have you back But yeah its a stupid idea to make the Bat a god but lets face it....it will only be temperaroy.He'll be back to normal in about a year of so.

Maybee, but maybe he'll stay that way, just like Spider-Man will now always be that f up like now, I mean hello?
Why give up his identety and all that stuff.

Spiderman will be fixed....I think they already retconed the new powers and I guess you havent heard the leaked info and rumors coming out of Marvel on Spidy.

Next years some event is coming that will lead to Spiderman and MJ being givin a choice to reset every thing that has happened since they got married.

by **Terminator-96010** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:47 am

so this means uf spidey has no more powers. then in the comic book. of the new amazing spider ben reily will have no powers and will not be real? like you said that spidey's powers will be gone in the future.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:59 am

Terminator-96010 wrote:so this means uf spidey has no more powers. then in the comic book. of the new amazing spider ben reily will have no powers and will not be real? like you said that spidey's powers will be gone in the future.

What are you talking about?
And Ben Reilly has not been Spiderman in over 10 years so unless you know something that has yet been reveiled your information is out of date.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:02 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:They want to turn Batsy into a God?!, Wow that's that's lame, I think I now have a reason to hate Batman.

Remember, this is a fight between two different comic companies, meaning there no canon, not in continuity, so everything ever about a opponent in it will be valid.

I'm sorry to say, but I do think the DC pp are complete retards, I mean they never figured out Superman's ingenuous disguise!

But I think everybody's forgetting Spider-Mans new powers!
The badass sword fangs in his arms (oh how I hate that), the super sensitive Spider sense, which kinda gives him a IR sight (that is kinda cool) and his ability to eat pp faces!

Which reminds me, that last time someone attacked Mary Jane, he broke his arm, pined him (yes pinned him, like with his new arm sword thingys) down to the ground and eat his face with his freaky new monster fangs,- and he did that wile dieing.

Now after Civil War, I don't have any fun at reading Spidy anymore, now that they want to do a crappy thing with Batman oh well I will just stop reading Superhero comics then.

Oh yea I did say I wouldn't post anymore, but you wanted me to come back!

Good to have you back But yeah its a stupid idea to make the Bat a god but lets face it....it will only be temperaroy.He'll be back to normal in about a year of so.

Maybee, but maybe he'll stay that way, just like Spider-Man will now always be that f up like now, I mean hello?
Why give up his identety and all that stuff.

Spiderman will be fixed....I think they already retconed the new powers and I guess you havent heard the leaked info and rumors coming out of Marvel on Spidy.

Next years some event is coming that will lead to Spiderman and MJ being givin a choice to reset every thing that has happened since they got married.

They fixed his powers?
I hope he still hase that super Spider sinse, cos I liked that, just the blades.
Oh and reseting everything?!
:shock:

I was hoping for this:
"And now Spider-Man will take of his mask to show you all who he is, isn't that so SM?"
"F you tony, eat this!" :grin:

Damn Marvel has won me over!

by **Deadpool.** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:14 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:so this means uf spidey has no more powers. then in the comic book. of the new amazing spider ben reily will have no powers and will not be real? like you said that spidey's powers will be gone in the future.

What are you talking about?
And Ben Reilly has not been Spiderman in over 10 years so unless you know something that has yet been reveiled your information is out of date.

Ben Reilly is dead.

He got killed by Goblin's glider....

And that was like, ages ago?

Seriously......

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:18 am

Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:so this means uf spidey has no more powers. then in the comic book. of the new amazing spider ben reily will have no powers and will not be real? like you said that spidey's powers will be gone in the future.

What are you talking about?
And Ben Reilly has not been Spiderman in over 10 years so unless you know something that has yet been reveiled your information is out of date.
Ben Reilly is dead.

He got killed by Goblin's glider....

And that was like, ages ago?

Seriously......

Besides he was nothing els then a stupid clone that was afraid of being a Clone.

by **Deadpool.** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:21 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:so this means uf spidey has no more powers. then in the comic book. of the new amazing spider ben reily will have no powers and will not be real? like you said that spidey's powers will be gone in the future.

What are you talking about?
And Ben Reilly has not been Spiderman in over 10 years so unless you know something that has yet been reveiled your information is out of date.
Ben Reilly is dead.

He got killed by Goblin's glider....

And that was like, ages ago?

Seriously......

Besides he was nothing els then a stupid clone that was afraid of being a Clone.

And he was the clone that got deceived into believing that he wasn't a clone and was hunted by another clone.

by **Terminator-96010** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:40 am

okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?
this is the intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXgX4n1iP0c

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:42 am

Terminator-96010 wrote:okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?

Yes and my opinion on that is: It is the biggest pile of crap that has ever bared the name Spider-Man!

by **Terminator-96010** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:47 am

huh? the series was been stopped until 13 the ending is kinda spoiler because it was not been finished.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:44 pm

Dead Metal wrote:They fixed his powers?
I hope he still hase that super Spider sinse, cos I liked that, just the blades.
Oh and reseting everything?!

I was hoping for this:
"And now Spider-Man will take of his mask to show you all who he is, isn't that so SM?"
"F you tony, eat this!"
Damn Marvel has won me over!

I cant speek for the super spider sence but I believe they retconed the blades out of his history.

Deadpool. wrote:Ben Reilly is dead.

He got killed by Goblin's glider....

And that was like, ages ago?

Seriously......

That was my point.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:47 pm

Terminator-96010 wrote:okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?
this is the intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXgX4n1iP0c

Yes but that cartoon is almost 10 years old and was canceled afterabout 13 episides.And whats does it have to do with Ben?

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:50 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?
this is the intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXgX4n1iP0c

Yes but that cartoon is almost 10 years old and was canceled afterabout 13 episides.And whats does it have to do with Ben?

And it's good that way, he shall never be put there again!
Man i hated that show and all I ever saw were 4 eps, in Italian!

by **Evank_Horizon** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:22 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?

Yes and my opinion on that is: It is the biggest pile of crap that has ever bared the name Spider-Man!

You haven't seen anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxioU7AMM4

this is a power ranger/ultraman-style show. It had NOTHING to do with spiderman as we know it beside the name and the suit. It's not even peter parker.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:21 pm

Evank_Horizon wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?

Yes and my opinion on that is: It is the biggest pile of crap that has ever bared the name Spider-Man!

You haven't seen anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxioU7AMM4

this is a power ranger/ultraman-style show. It had NOTHING to do with spiderman as we know it beside the name and the suit. It's not even peter parker.

That bringe me way back....if I right that came out back in the late 70's or early 80's...not to long after the old live action Spiderman show was canceled.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:01 pm

Evank_Horizon wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Terminator-96010 wrote:okay. hm................ any1 here have heard spiderman unlimited?

Yes and my opinion on that is: It is the biggest pile of crap that has ever bared the name Spider-Man!

You haven't seen anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxioU7AMM4

this is a power ranger/ultraman-style show. It had NOTHING to do with spiderman as we know it beside the name and the suit. It's not even peter parker.

No, I've seen that before, and I kinda like it!
I mean it's one of those cool What if stories, what if Spider-Man was a crazy Japanease guy, who fights nina style and has a bot!
For wen it's been made I don't think it's that bad.
I mean it's not Peter it's someone els, UNSM sucked cos it was the real Peter who got sucked into freaking parael future dimention thingy, and it made Venom a stupid retarded burglar!