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Twin Sunset wrote:the first four were optimus, soundwave, starscream, and megatron, with jazz on the horizon. as far as i can tell the only toys with a 1st reissue are sky lynx and omega. i don't really see a focus on toys with no previous reissue. it's probably more in line with "which toys can we put out that will sell best after fans who weren't avid collectors before the movie, but who now want their childhood back since the movie?" kind of cynical, i know. but i really think they're releasing toys that both old and newer collectors will respond to. how many out there picked up lynx or omega because they were way too expensive when you were young?

so for the next encore figure, i'd say it'll be either one that everyone had and formed memories with, or was a holy grail back in the day.

...maybe i'm just ranting to justify wanting toys that've been reissued already

That's fine. Look, I'm not saying that people who want a Smokescreen reissue shouldn't be able to get one because Smokescreen has already been reissued, I'm saying that since Smokescreen has been reissued, it is entirely possible to obtain a G1 Smokescreen without having to reissue him again. I get tired of there being annoucnements about reissues only to find out that it's a reissue of a reissue. Like if you want a Starscream you have your choice of like 5 reissues that are all the same. If Takara and TRU released a reissue of Prowl, why does there need to be an Encore Prowl, three of the same figure, instead of an Encore Octane or Trailbreaker or Trypticon? Why do we always have to get the same reissues. Even Jazz got reissued through TRU, and now Encore. Ratchet and Ironhide at least were new reissues, and that's why e Hobby rocks, because it may be another Jazz, but it's at least a new character.

Dagon wrote:

Twin Sunset wrote:the first four were optimus, soundwave, starscream, and megatron, with jazz on the horizon. as far as i can tell the only toys with a 1st reissue are sky lynx and omega. i don't really see a focus on toys with no previous reissue. it's probably more in line with "which toys can we put out that will sell best after fans who weren't avid collectors before the movie, but who now want their childhood back since the movie?" kind of cynical, i know. but i really think they're releasing toys that both old and newer collectors will respond to. how many out there picked up lynx or omega because they were way too expensive when you were young?

so for the next encore figure, i'd say it'll be either one that everyone had and formed memories with, or was a holy grail back in the day.

...maybe i'm just ranting to justify wanting toys that've been reissued already

That's fine. Look, I'm not saying that people who want a Smokescreen reissue shouldn't be able to get one because Smokescreen has already been reissued, I'm saying that since Smokescreen has been reissued, it is entirely possible to obtain a G1 Smokescreen without having to reissue him again. I get tired of there being annoucnements about reissues only to find out that it's a reissue of a reissue. Like if you want a Starscream you have your choice of like 5 reissues that are all the same. If Takara and TRU released a reissue of Prowl, why does there need to be an Encore Prowl, three of the same figure, instead of an Encore Octane or Trailbreaker or Trypticon? Why do we always have to get the same reissues. Even Jazz got reissued through TRU, and now Encore. Ratchet and Ironhide at least were new reissues, and that's why e Hobby rocks, because it may be another Jazz, but it's at least a new character.

i wasn't diagreeing that there SHOULD be more variety, just that based on what's been released that there ISN'T any. i agree with you in that toys should not be run into the ground, but my opinion is that it seems if the "regulars" keep selling, that's what we'll see in ever reissue series. especially with the movie being a hit, there's now that percent of people going "hey! i remember these toys! what? i can buy them again? i want optimus!" etc. and whether that number of collectors are large or small, they still vote with their wallet. and don't want to hunt on e-bay for the best prices when they can just walk into a comic store and buy jazz for $35.

i'm not saying it IS what they're doing, just the impression that i get given the previous releases. and i hope i'm wrong for the most part. but i honestly think that we'll see a 50/50 mix of old and new at best.

Dinobots.
Scourge and Cyclonus.
Springer.
Seacons.

Plus, some Japanese-only G1:
Deathsaurus.
Overlord.
Black Zarak.

Also, Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus, or Brave Maximus would be nice as well.

GetterDragun wrote:I think it will be Scorponok with an e-hobby Black Zarak. Though I would like to see a cassette set.

Somehow I believe you. You must work for Hasbro or TakTomy.

tech348 wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:I think it will be Scorponok with an e-hobby Black Zarak. Though I would like to see a cassette set.

Somehow I believe you. You must work for Hasbro or TakTomy.

Getter usually is right.

I hope Getter is right as I need to replace my Scorponok and if I can do so boxed for under $250, I'd be happy.

The Cassettes would be nice, but outside of the combiner sets I already have them, at lease the ones that saw a US release.

Realy though like alot of people have been saying I would like to see them do dome of figures that only hit in Japan. But unlike StarConvoy, I hope they would do them in sets. Wouldn't it be great to have a Grandus and Sky Garry to go along with him for under $900.

If they do Star Saber, do Victory Leo to. Dai Atlas, Have him come with Road Fire and Sonic Bomber.

As this mainly is a line for collectors, I don't think most collectors would mind paying more for a complete set new when compaired to vintage normaly incomplete sets.

I love the idea of vintage, but I wanna buy a house soon, so the idea of having these bots for less than half the vintage cost is something I won't complain to much about. See what I would do is get these, keep them open, then when I find the right deal on vintage, get it and keep it closed.

Liege Evilmus wrote:I hope Getter is right as I need to replace my Scorponok and if I can do so boxed for under $250, I'd be happy.

The Cassettes would be nice, but outside of the combiner sets I already have them, at lease the ones that saw a US release.

Realy though like alot of people have been saying I would like to see them do dome of figures that only hit in Japan. But unlike StarConvoy, I hope they would do them in sets. Wouldn't it be great to have a Grandus and Sky Garry to go along with him for under $900.

If they do Star Saber, do Victory Leo to. Dai Atlas, Have him come with Road Fire and Sonic Bomber.

As this mainly is a line for collectors, I don't think most collectors would mind paying more for a complete set new when compaired to vintage normaly incomplete sets.

I love the idea of vintage, but I wanna buy a house soon, so the idea of having these bots for less than half the vintage cost is something I won't complain to much about. See what I would do is get these, keep them open, then when I find the right deal on vintage, get it and keep it closed.

I couldn't agree more. If Encore is aimed more at the adult collector, then why not use it to release figures that are in demand by adult collectors like the Japan only releases?

Dagon wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:I hope Getter is right as I need to replace my Scorponok and if I can do so boxed for under $250, I'd be happy.

The Cassettes would be nice, but outside of the combiner sets I already have them, at lease the ones that saw a US release.

Realy though like alot of people have been saying I would like to see them do dome of figures that only hit in Japan. But unlike StarConvoy, I hope they would do them in sets. Wouldn't it be great to have a Grandus and Sky Garry to go along with him for under $900.

If they do Star Saber, do Victory Leo to. Dai Atlas, Have him come with Road Fire and Sonic Bomber.

As this mainly is a line for collectors, I don't think most collectors would mind paying more for a complete set new when compaired to vintage normaly incomplete sets.

I love the idea of vintage, but I wanna buy a house soon, so the idea of having these bots for less than half the vintage cost is something I won't complain to much about. See what I would do is get these, keep them open, then when I find the right deal on vintage, get it and keep it closed.

I couldn't agree more. If Encore is aimed more at the adult collector, then why not use it to release figures that are in demand by adult collectors like the Japan only releases?

there must be many moulds still available for use, hopefully the boost in TF popularity from the movie will encourage takaratomy to continue with G1 reissues.

There are so many figures I want to see reissued I could just list them off like so:
Citybots
Headmasters
Targetmasters
Triplechangers
Cyclonus
Scourge
Sixshot
and just about every Japanese figure you can think of.

But I think the ones I want most are Fort Max and Sixshot. Sure both have been reissued at point, but they're still expensive as hell. It would be really nice if Takara included everything from previous rereleases of Fort Max that didn't make it into each version. I'm talking about Cog, Grand's/Cerebros' Pretender shell, and the small and "Master" swords.

METAL HAWK!!!
That's one cool pretender.

microclone wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:I hope Getter is right as I need to replace my Scorponok and if I can do so boxed for under $250, I'd be happy.

The Cassettes would be nice, but outside of the combiner sets I already have them, at lease the ones that saw a US release.

Realy though like alot of people have been saying I would like to see them do dome of figures that only hit in Japan. But unlike StarConvoy, I hope they would do them in sets. Wouldn't it be great to have a Grandus and Sky Garry to go along with him for under $900.

If they do Star Saber, do Victory Leo to. Dai Atlas, Have him come with Road Fire and Sonic Bomber.

As this mainly is a line for collectors, I don't think most collectors would mind paying more for a complete set new when compaired to vintage normaly incomplete sets.

I love the idea of vintage, but I wanna buy a house soon, so the idea of having these bots for less than half the vintage cost is something I won't complain to much about. See what I would do is get these, keep them open, then when I find the right deal on vintage, get it and keep it closed.

I couldn't agree more. If Encore is aimed more at the adult collector, then why not use it to release figures that are in demand by adult collectors like the Japan only releases?

there must be many moulds still available for use, hopefully the boost in TF popularity from the movie will encourage takaratomy to continue with G1 reissues.

I'd like to one up it.

Wide scale recent G1 reissues in the US have not been as promissing as retailers have hoped. I think thats cause the figures have always been an exclusive though.

I think if Hasbro was to either import and release these on a mass scale, OR host them on Hasbro Toy Shop as exclusive imports, I bet it would lessen costs even more, and increase sales futher than the Commemorative Line TRU had a few years back.

Encore via Walmart is a fortune because it's Takara direct. Hasbro could change that, and if they don't start by charging $40 for a Autobot car this time around(which realy, they don't have to. the mold is vintage not the friggin figure) they could realy rake it in by offering the product at a fair rate.

Of course this makes sense so my hopes aren't up.

I want em 2 release :

Prowl
Blue Streak
Smokescreen
Red Alert
Hoist
Sideswipe
Trailbreaker
Wheeljack
Hound
Perceptor
Hot Rod
Metroplex
The Aerialbot
The Protectobots
Fortress Maximus

Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Galvatron
Shockwave
The Insecticons
The Constucticons
The Stunticons
The Combaticons
The Predacons
The Terrorcons
The Seacons
Runabout
Runamock ( sorry if misspelled )


Choujin Masterforce:

Grand Maximus

Blackzarrak
Overlord


Victory:

Star Saber
Road Caeser ( Brainmasters )
Landcross ( The Multi-force )

Dezsaras
Dinoking
and ...
LIOKAISER !!!

I'm hoping Takara will make an announcement soon for the next figure.

Dagon wrote:...Alas, I really do think that we'll get Ultra Magnus or Rodimus Prime, or someone else that has already been reissued 10,000 times.

I've passed on Rodimus Prime about 10,000 times and have been regreting it lately, so I'd like to see him encored.

Plus Coneheads, Targetmasters, Gestalt sets...

...and Trailbreaker!