The Energon Pub

[Saber Prime]

I have no idea who Straxus is. As far as I'm concerned Megatron has allways been Galvatron.

Straxus was Decepticon leader from the Marvel comics.

Allso why do you conect Galvatron with Unicron? Only the original and possibly Energon Megatron's were made into Galvatron by Unicron. (I either didn't see or don't remember how Energon Megatron became

Energon Megatron became Galvatron via an exposure to Super Energon. This also how Starscream powered up as well.

RID never even introduced Unicron and Megatron was turned into Galvatron via the Black Pyrimid.

That was not the Black Pyramid. Yes, it was a pyramid, but not the same one from "Hunt for the Black Pyramid". Also, he didn't just absorb the pyramid's power, he also took some power from Slapper, Gas Skunk, and Dark Scream's sparks.

Armada Megatron along with Starscream, Red Alert, and Hot Shot were all given repaint jobs by the Mini-cons. Red Alert and Hot Shot keept their original names. Starscream changed his name to Thundercracker (which really dissplaces Cybertron as the last part of the Trilligy because Cybertron made Starscream and Thundercracker two different characters again.) and Megatron changed his name to Galvatron allthough it seemed everyone insisted on calling them by their original names so they really only called themselfs that.

You forgot Demolisher. He was there with them and got upgraded too. And Starscream didn't change his name to Thundercracker. He said, "I look like Thundercracker." referring to a different character. This line was inserted into the episode because Hasbro released the Starscream Super Mode toy as a new character named Thundercracker. And everyone called Megatron Galvatron. It was only right after his upgrade that he was still called Megatron because the others weren't aware of the name change. Megs would correct them like this:

Thrust: "Welcome back, Lord Megatron"
Galvatron: "The name is Galvatron now."
Thrust: "Yes, Lord Galvatron"

Energon, from the appearance of him I think he should have never been called Megatron in the first place.

That's how it was in the Japanese version, Superlink. I japanese Armada, Micron Legend, Megs was upgraded to Megatron Super Mode. It wasn't until his return in Energon (Superlink) that he went by Galvatron. When he was upgraded again, He was called Galvatron G (Galvatron General). it was Hasbro who chose the "Megatron - Galvatron - Megatron - Galvatron" format. I bet that if Battlestars was ewver brought to West, they'd call Super Megatron just Megatron and Ultra Megatron Galvatron.

Cybertron Megatron with the help of the Giant Cyber Planet Key got really pissed and turned into a shimering black cloud and then became Galvatron. The toy was just a simple repaint but the cartoon allso seemed to show that Galvatron was alot bigger than Megatron.

I don't think he was bigger, just stronger. When he fought Prime in the final battle, they were the same size as always.

This last one is just a therie but in the movie, they say the All Spark's power "COULD" kill you, not that it "CAN" kill you. That coupled with the fact that they can't really kill off the Decepticon leader and then make a sequill so either A. There won't be a sequill or B. The All Spark didn't really kill him and he'll be back in the next movie as Galvatron.

Or they could just ressurrect him as Megatron. If this Megatron were to become Galvatron, I doubt he would show up as soon as the second movie. Maybe the third at the ealiest, but not the second. Plus, who says Megs has to come back in the sequel? Screamer's still alive, and we might be getting Soundwave and the Constructions. So the Autobots (plus the possible Dinobots) would already have a powerful-enough threat to deal with, and would not need Megatron.

He looked like he grew as he was changing inside the shimmering black cloud and it would make sence for Galvatron to be larger because of the Giant Cyber Planet Key.

After all if the Jungle Cyber Planet Key would turn Overhaul into Leabreaker essentially turning a vehicle based transformer into an animal one. Why wouldn't the "Giant" key turn it's user into a giant?

As for the movie, yeah Starscream is alive and I exspect he'll be leading the Decepticons for a good portion of the next movie before Megatron comes back. They never really established him as the backstabbing traitor that Starscream has allways been. Rather the movie just established him as a screw up.

If they had done him a little better I wouldn't exspect this but I could totally picture Starscream just going to Cybertron to grab a few reinforcments then returning to Earth and his first orders will be "Find Megatron". Based on what they showed in the movie when they found the cube Frenzy allso found Megatron and freed him. Starscream didn't seem to be giveing any orders to the effect of "He's dead, leave him be, I am your leader!" that would have really made Movie Starscream more like his other name sakes if he had a line like that before Megatron was defrosted.

Anyway, if he came back and was still Megatron it wouldn't really fit into my whole "The All Spark turned him into Galvatron" therie. I think his old body is just slowly reformatting into Galvatron right now and he went into stasis lock till the refarmatting can be completed.

[estrelliaes]

Whens the new tf animated being shown on tv whatever.

Along came spider.

i watched all up till now on youtube.

This is what i get for watching a cartoon thats only shown in America and Canada when i live in England.

When itv bought them before they show them on weekdays so you dont wait much.

Any ideas when its shown? Then i can guess when tis on youtube.

[Autobot032]

Can anyone say Deus Ex Machina?

And pronounce it correctly? Not many can that I know of.

Day-Us X Machine-UH

No. Do-ess ex mach-in-uh.

[Saber Prime]

Do-ess ex mach-in-uh.

That sounds like a sneeze.

[Sabrblade]

Whens the new tf animated being shown on tv whatever.

Along came spider.

i watched all up till now on youtube.

This is what i get for watching a cartoon thats only shown in America and Canada when i live in England.

When itv bought them before they show them on weekdays so you dont wait much.

Any ideas when its shown? Then i can guess when tis on youtube.

Two or three more weeks, my friend. Feb. 9 is the first U.S. airing of "Total Meltdown". Feb. 16 is supposed to be a rerun of "Blast From the Past", and then Feb. 16 will be the airing of "Along Came a Spider". BUT, I just looked at the CN schedule and they say "Along Came a Spider" will air the 16th, not the 23rd. I then checked a bunch of sources and they all contradict each other. some say the 16th, some say the 23rd.

I guess we'll have to keep an eye out for which episode airs when.

[Saber Prime]

Whens the new tf animated being shown on tv whatever.

Along came spider.

i watched all up till now on youtube.

This is what i get for watching a cartoon thats only shown in America and Canada when i live in England.

When itv bought them before they show them on weekdays so you dont wait much.

Any ideas when its shown? Then i can guess when tis on youtube.

Two or three more weeks, my friend. Feb. 9 is the first U.S. airing of "Total Meltdown". Feb. 16 is supposed to be a rerun of "Blast From the Past", and then Feb. 16 will be the airing of "Along Came a Spider". BUT, I just looked at the CN schedule and they say "Along Came a Spider" will air the 16th, not the 23rd. I then checked a bunch of sources and they all contradict each other. some say the 16th, some say the 23rd.

I guess we'll have to keep an eye out for which episode airs when.

Sence Cartoon Network is the one airing the shows in the first place I'd be willing to bet whatever it says on their web site is the right date. Everyone else is misinformed.

[YoImLegend]

He said no one would get killed because it's too dark for a kids show that's why I pointed out that someone has allready died.

I meant that the concept of a character dying and the allspark pretty much giving them the finger when they try to resurrect him (or her?) is too dark of a concept. Having them be seriously injured and then solving the problem after the allspark does the same thing would be much more kid-friendly and give off better morals. Thanks to everyone supporting my theory, haha.

My apologies for the run-on sentences.

[AxiomScion]

He said no one would get killed because it's too dark for a kids show that's why I pointed out that someone has allready died.

I meant that the concept of a character dying and the allspark pretty much giving them the finger when they try to resurrect him (or her?) is too dark of a concept. Having them be seriously injured and then solving the problem after the allspark does the same thing would be much more kid-friendly and give off better morals. Thanks to everyone supporting my theory, haha.

My apologies for the run-on sentences.

It keeps things interesting for me when I do.

[Saber Prime]

I never seen this version of Thor till yesterday but now that I have...

Well here's a link for you to look at if you haven't allready seen the Ultimate Avengers Movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJHqso9yzFE

Now after watching that I have to ask, it is just me or does Optimus Prime's rocket powered ax look alot like Thor's Hammer?

[Overcracker]

I never seen this version of Thor till yesterday but now that I have...

Well here's a link for you to look at if you haven't allready seen the Ultimate Avengers Movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJHqso9yzFE

Now after watching that I have to ask, it is just me or does Optimus Prime's rocket powered ax look alot like Thor's Hammer?

It does bare some resemblance.

The Thor in the Avnegers movies is a mix between 3 Major Comic Thors: Ultimate Thor, and Thunderstrike a.k.a Eric Masterson, and a bit of the Original Thor thrown in there for good measure.

He is mostly Ultimate Thor, however unlike Ultimate Thor he does claim to be the son of Odin from the get go.

By the way, if you haven't watched the 2 Avenger's movies, they are pretty good, while not keeping with any of the Marvel Universes exactly. The Iron Movie is not as good. I'm looking forward to Dr. Strange though.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The Thor in the Avnegers movies is a mix between 3 Major Comic Thors: Ultimate Thor, and Thunderstrike a.k.a Eric Masterson, and a bit of the Original Thor thrown in there for good measure.

I love the Thor corps

ThorCorps

[Saber Prime]

The Avengers Movies have some major plot holes that all seem to revolve around Thor.

1. Thor starts off by saying he doesn't want to have anything to do with the wars of man. Then later Odin says he involves himself with the wars of man far too often.

2. The first movie played Thor as being a crazy guy who only THINKS he's a God. The second showed he really WAS a God.

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The Avengers Movies have some major plot holes that all seem to revolve around Thor.

I know how you feel.They were made to quickly.

1. Thor starts off by saying he doesn't want to have anything to do with the wars of man. Then later Odin says he involves himself with the wars of man far too often.

I dont see this one as to much of a contradiction.Qdin just does not want him to be involved with humanity at all.

2. The first movie played Thor as being a crazy guy who only THINKS he's a God. The second showed he really WAS a God.

It was done the same way in the Ultimates comics......but they streached it out much longer.

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

That might be because Hank Pym is a wife beater

[Saber Prime]

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

That might be because Hank Pym is a wife beater

Where did you get that idea? That was never shown in the movie. Haveing a couple arguments with your wife and acting like a jerk doesn't make you a wife beater. Actully HITTING your wife durring said arguments makes you a wife beater. Hank never hit Wasp.

[Overcracker]

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

That might be because Hank Pym is a wife beater

Where did you get that idea? That was never shown in the movie. Haveing a couple arguments with your wife and acting like a jerk doesn't make you a wife beater. Actully HITTING your wife durring said arguments makes you a wife beater. Hank never hit Wasp.

In the comics he is written as a wife beater. He abuses his wife Jan, and is consequently discharged from the Ultimates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Pym

[Lycantendencies]

It my piss off a few G1 comic lovers who hate TF:A to see Straxus first figure come from the TF:A toyline though

I'm as old school comic as they get, and even made a Starxus head and it'd please me.

I also love your idea of himn becoming Galvatron. I'm currently working on my own take on Classics, and have Megatron staying Megatron, and Straxus becoming Galvy.

I have no idea who Straxus is. As far as I'm concerned Megatron has allways been Galvatron.

Straxus was a 'Con who Blaster almost killed.
He then attempted to take over Megatron, but when that failed, possessed a Megatron clone he'd built, one with Megatron's personality and memories.

The two merged and he became a crazed Megatron, pretty much what Galvatron was.

Making Straxus Glavy would keep in with Animated's rep for doing things differently, and be a nod to fans.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

That might be because Hank Pym is a wife beater

Where did you get that idea? That was never shown in the movie. Haveing a couple arguments with your wife and acting like a jerk doesn't make you a wife beater. Actully HITTING your wife durring said arguments makes you a wife beater. Hank never hit Wasp.

Where do you think it came from?????

You seem to forget that my knowlege in comic characters extends far beyond the 2 movies your watching or just any cartoon.

I didnt see the second movie but I dont think they would have gotten into the wife beating thing on a cartoon that they were goingto eventually air on he cartoon network.

[Pyrostrata]

It my piss off a few G1 comic lovers who hate TF:A to see Straxus first figure come from the TF:A toyline though

I'm as old school comic as they get, and even made a Starxus head and it'd please me.

I also love your idea of himn becoming Galvatron. I'm currently working on my own take on Classics, and have Megatron staying Megatron, and Straxus becoming Galvy.

That is a GREAT idea! I was quite a fan of Lord Straxus back in the day! Wished they'd have done a LOT more with him! Making him into Galvatron would plase me emmensely....so him and Megs could duke it out...and Megs would end up kicking his ass!

[Saber Prime]

Here's the quote again.

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

That might be because Hank Pym is a wife beater

I'm talking about the Ultimate Avengers Movies. I think it's preddy clear from the original post that brought the subject up (Thors Hammer looking amazingly like Prime's ax) that we were talking about the movies.

Your reply was that Hank from the movie was a wife beater and that's why Thor in the movie didn't resurect him.

There's nothing here refering to him being a wife beater in the comics and even if you had specified that you were talking about comic Hank his comic book counterpart does not apply to the events of the movie. Movies never follow the comics, you know that.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Here's the quote again.

3. And this is the biggest one. Thor brings Tony Stark back from the dead but he does nothing to bring Hank Pym back, what the hell?

That might be because Hank Pym is a wife beater

I'm talking about the Ultimate Avengers Movies. I think it's preddy clear from the original post that brought the subject up (Thors Hammer looking amazingly like Prime's ax) that we were talking about the movies.

Your reply was that Hank from the movie was a wife beater and that's why Thor in the movie didn't resurect him.

There's nothing here refering to him being a wife beater in the comics and even if you had specified that you were talking about comic Hank his comic book counterpart does not apply to the events of the movie. Movies never follow the comics, you know that.

And I think its pretty damn clear [to most people anyway] that my reply to you on the topic was in jest.

I was jokeing while trying to trow in a bit of comic book info at you.

Maybe if you were'nt so single minded about things you may have seen that for yourself.

And truth be told in the movie Thor didnt do anything more special for Tony that a doctor couldnt have done with a defibulator.

I even read a news story once that stated that someone did something simular with two car batteries.

Thor didnt really do anything god like to bring back Tony.

[Saber Prime]

And I think its pretty damn clear [to most people anyway] that my reply to you on the topic was in jest.

I was jokeing while trying to trow in a bit of comic book info at you.

Maybe if you were'nt so single minded about things you may have seen that for yourself.

And truth be told in the movie Thor didnt do anything more special for Tony that a doctor couldnt have done with a defibulator.

I even read a news story once that stated that someone did something simular with two car batteries.

Thor didnt really do anything god like to bring back Tony.

It's inpossible to be jokeing while calling someone a wife beater, even if that someone is a fictional character it still isn't funny.

You seem to be sugesting that it was the electricity that brought Tony back.

First off, the first thing Tony said after being revived was "You really are a God" to Thor.

Secondly, when it's a Defibulator, thats a faily low voltage. The amount of voltage Thor somoned would be enough to KILL a person, not revive them, that is if that's all he truely did was shock him.

Tony has that thing on his chest that regulates his heart beat but that's just the comic book equilvilant of a pace maker.

I'd have to say there was some Magic involved there. If it was just the lighting then that would have completly fried his dead corpse, not brought him back to life. Too high a voltage to do anything but fry.

So anyway... Who'd win in a fight Teen Titans Bumblebee or Transformers Bumblebee?

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

It's inpossible to be jokeing while calling someone a wife beater, even if that someone is a fictional character it still isn't funny.

I've told you before not all jokes are funny but I dont want to get into that again

The joke wasnt about making lite of wife beating but in giving you some alternate insight into the comic book character.

And Eddie Murphy made millions in the 80's cracking Ike and Tina Turner jokes. so he proved you wrong over a million times there.

You seem to be sugesting that it was the electricity that brought Tony back.

I didnt suggest that...... the animation did.Further more the fact that the power cells of Tonys suit being depleted was the cause of his questionable "death" and his suit being back to moveable power after the electricity infusion pretty much proves it to me.

First off, the first thing Tony said after being revived was "You really are a God" to Thor.

The rambleings of a person that just had a near death experance.Thor also channeled lighting.....thats also God like enough to have gotten that reaction from most anyone.

Secondly, when it's a Defibulator, thats a faily low voltage. The amount of voltage Thor somoned would be enough to KILL a person, not revive them, that is if that's all he truely did was shock him.

You have absoutley no idea at all about the level of electricity voltage that Thor called apond.So dont even try to say that you did.

Thor is the master of the living lighting and can control the levels of its voltage at will and could have controled the amount he infused into Tony.

Second Thor channeled the power trew Tonys chest peace giving power to the power cells..

Tony has that thing on his chest that regulates his heart beat but that's just the comic book equilvilant of a pace maker.

Its more then just that.

I'd have to say there was some Magic involved there. If it was just the lighting then that would have completly fried his dead corpse, not brought him back to life. Too high a voltage to do anything but fry.

You should do so research into Thor and his powers before trying to speak like you know what your talking about when it is in regaurds to Thor.

While Thor has been able to do Magic of that kind, it has never been done with out a ritual of some kind.

On the other hand his masterie over the lighting is "absoutle" and he would have been able to give him just enough electricity to do what needed to be done.

So anyway... Who'd win in a fight Teen Titans Bumblebee or Transformers Bumblebee?

So which Transformers Bumblebee????

[Saber Prime]

He summoned lighting. I may not know much about Thor but I know if a person gets struck by lighting they're dead. No question about that.

(allthough recently on Myth Busters they showed someone who was struck by lightning and lived but what are the chances of that happening again?)

As for which Transformers Bumblebee, look back a few pages. Earlier I posted a sugestion on doing a Transformers and Teen Titans crossover sence the animators allready have the rights to both.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

He summoned lighting. I may not know much about Thor but I know if a person gets struck by lighting they're dead. No question about that.

Like I said Thor is the master of the "Living Lighting" and he has "absoulte" control over its voltage.He can command it to be any voltage.

but I know if a person gets struck by lighting they're dead. No question about that.

Where did you learn that??????In school???????

This reminds me of that debate we had on whats at the center of the earth or the one on the DNA of twins.Ether your forgetting things you learned in school of you were taught wrong.

I would think that by now you would do some resarch on things that you plan to make a statement about.

According to a study reported on the USA today website...in the U.S. alone a average of 73 people are killed by being hit by lighting and the average of 300 people usually are injured by lightning.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resourc ... htning.htm

Also according to the National Weather Service publication Storm Data recorded 3,239 deaths and 9,818 injuries from lightning strikes between 1959 and 1994

Here is an other link about people and lighting strikes
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlin ... un99_1.htm

So I guess that theres is some question to wether or not your dead after a lighting strike wouldnt you say?????

(allthough recently on Myth Busters they showed someone who was struck by lightning and lived but what are the chances of that happening again?)

I dont like that show but over the years I have seen countless shows and news reports about people that claim to have been hit by lighting more then once in their lives.

But I dont know if they were ever proven 100% true.

As for which Transformers Bumblebee, look back a few pages. Earlier I posted a sugestion on doing a Transformers and Teen Titans crossover sence the animators allready have the rights to both.

I remember the post but I didnt know if you were still referring to Animated Bumblebee or any of the other Bumblebees.

[Sabrblade]

So anyway... Who'd win in a fight Teen Titans Bumblebee or Transformers Bumblebee?

So which Transformers Bumblebee????

He probably meant TF:A Bumblebee, since both have similar animation.