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News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:29 am

So basically, MP44S Optimus Prime is a repaint of MP49 Black Convoy.
That's what I can call going full circle!

Still expensive as balls though.

I have MP49 so I'm good. But for those who want just the Optimus without paying double the price because of the fluff, and want the OFFICIAL one, MP44S is a great opportunity.

by **Syclone** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:35 am

I was so excited until I saw the yellow/orange eyes. Now I'm like, I'll wait till they release one with blue eyes.

Maybe I'm just looking for any excuse to not buy it. I really like MP44, I just don't need (or want to pay for) all those accessories.

The other one (whatever we shall name him) looks pretty great actually, but I tend to only spend MP money on well known characters from my childhood, so I probably will not buy.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:34 pm

Apparently MP44S Optimus Prime will have no trailer and the sound effects no longer function. So basically, just like MP-49, are they finally going to release this mould for an Honest price? :-?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:50 pm

SpaceEagle wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:Besides Loudpedal and now Riggorus ( ), have there been any other Diaclone based Decepticons? It seems they've almost exclusively been Autobots until now.

There's Exhaust as well, I believe!

With Car Robot we only have Loudpedal, Exhaust and now Riggorus (trademark-friendly version of "rigorous" I suppose). Let's see the complete list, the ones with "TF" are decos created for Transformers, and not counting later decos:

1. Countach LP500S
Red: Spin-Out
TF Yellow: Sunstreaker
2. Onebox Cherry Vanette
Black: DK-2 Guard
TF Red: Ironhide
3. Countach LP500S Patrol Car Type
White: Cordon
4. Onebox Ambulance Type
White: Ratchet
5. 4WD Hi-Lux
Black: Trailbreaker
Blue: DK-3 Breaker
Yellow: Riggorus
6. Honda City R
Silver: Crosscut
Red: Reboost
7. Fairlady Z
Silver: Bluestreak
Blue: Silverstreak (since Buzzworthy Bumblebee)
TF all Silver: Bluestreak
8. 4WD Wrecker Type
Red: Lift-Ticket
Blue: N/A
TF Green: Hoist
9. Honda City Turbo
Blue: Skids
Black: Burn Out
Red: N/A
10. Fire Engine
Red: Inferno
11. Fairlady Z Racing Type
Red: Smokescreen
12. J59 Jeep
Green: Hound
13. Police Car Fairlady Z
White: Prowl
14. Porsche 935 Turbo
White: Jazz
15. New Countach LP500S
Red: Sideswipe
Yellow: Tigertrack
Black: Deep Cover
16. F-1 Ligier JS-11
Blue: Mirage
Red: N/A
17. Battle Convoy
Red: Optimus Prime
18. Lancia Stratos Turbo
Green: Wheeljack
Red: Exhaust
19. New Countach Police Car
White: Clampdown
TF White: Red Alert
20. Truck Crane
Yellow: Grapple
21. Corvette Stringray
Red: Road Rage
TF Blue: Tracks

So we're still missing a blue Hoist, a red Skids that isn't Reboost, and a red Mirage AFAIK. 3 more chances for Decepticons

Regarding Loudpedal, that one isn't a Diaclone deco per se, but rather is based on one released only in Finland.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:29 pm

Def prefer Terraegis rally looks wise over Riggorus but at least Takaras shouldnt have flaws. I'm still wanting MP trailbreaker and hoist so going third party on one out of the three aint bad (if they do the purple version then it might be a buy).

I use a KO MP tigertracks with some saw hand weapons from Igear PP05 Ironhide as Buzzsaw just to have another decepticon car bot.

Really liking optimus, it might be different enough from MP10 for me to consider getting it

by **SpaceEagle** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:29 pm

Syclone wrote:I was so excited until I saw the yellow/orange eyes. Now I'm like, I'll wait till they release one with blue eyes.

To be fair it is striving for toy accuracy, hence the lack of blue eyes. Probably wouldn't be too hard to paint them if so desired...

Maybe that helps with accepting the package but I'm also not a Hasbro/Takara salesperson so I don't want you to spend your money willy-nilly, heh.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:34 pm

The yellow eyes are the whole point of this release.

by **SpaceEagle** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:37 pm

I've always preferred the yellow eyed look for OP (Same goes for Soundwave), but again that's probably just my toy-accurate bias speaking. :lol:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:52 pm

SpaceEagle wrote:I've always preferred the yellow eyed look for OP (Same goes for Soundwave), but again that's probably just my toy-accurate bias speaking.

It's also Marvel-accurate.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:47 pm

I guess for those of us who couldn't afford the original MP44 release, this is a much more affordable opportunity, especially if you don't care about the trailer (that's what the previous MP Prime/Convoys were for!)

by **Syclone** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:11 pm

SpaceEagle wrote:
Syclone wrote:I was so excited until I saw the yellow/orange eyes. Now I'm like, I'll wait till they release one with blue eyes.

To be fair it is striving for toy accuracy, hence the lack of blue eyes. Probably wouldn't be too hard to paint them if so desired...

Maybe that helps with accepting the package but I'm also not a Hasbro/Takara salesperson so I don't want you to spend your money willy-nilly, heh.

Oh absolutely. And it pulls it off great. It's just not the very specific thing I want haha. (Which is just regular MP44 without the trailer.)

by **SpaceEagle** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:19 pm

Syclone wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:
Syclone wrote:I was so excited until I saw the yellow/orange eyes. Now I'm like, I'll wait till they release one with blue eyes.

To be fair it is striving for toy accuracy, hence the lack of blue eyes. Probably wouldn't be too hard to paint them if so desired...

Maybe that helps with accepting the package but I'm also not a Hasbro/Takara salesperson so I don't want you to spend your money willy-nilly, heh.

Oh absolutely. And it pulls it off great. It's just not the very specific thing I want haha. (Which is just regular MP44 without the trailer.)

Heh, they're probably going to wait a while just so people still have to buy the full package if they want this figure.

Sneaky business...

News Credits: 7 · by **TulioDude** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:19 pm

The toy accurate colors look pretty good on Optimus!

Day 1286 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:09 pm

I am very excited for both of these releases.

Prime REALLY needed a new toy accurate head, but he still looks good. I love the yellow eye look, and outside of Selects Star Convoy I haven't had that change yet. I appreciate the toy style stickers, but I really wish those were tampos. Otherwise, I love him.

Riggorus also looks super cool. Unique mix of parts, and it's a figure that, like Reboost, doesn't have a generations toy yet, so he will be good for me. Plus, I like the mold a lot, so I can enjoy it. Plus, that forcefield piece will be nice to give to Trailbreaker.

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:39 pm

Toy-color Prime looks better than the regular release, hot take.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:50 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:Toy-color Prime looks better than the regular release, hot take.

Not a hot take if you are objectively correct

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:09 pm

Now that I'm finally paying attention, I noticed that this MP-44S is in toys colors to a T. Even the truck have his silver line, mocking the overly complicated transformation that was designed to make it disappear.

by **SpaceEagle** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:25 pm

I always thought the truck looked more interesting with the stripe. I know toon accuracy dictates it should be gone yadda yadda and toon accuracy fans want it very accurate (at least judging by clamouring for unofficial figures that strive for extreme cartoon accuracy) yadda yadda.
But I just think the truck works a lot better with the stripe. :lol:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:36 pm

SpaceEagle wrote:I always thought the truck looked more interesting with the stripe. I know toon accuracy dictates it should be gone yadda yadda and toon accuracy fans want it very accurate (at least judging by clamouring for unofficial figures that strive for extreme cartoon accuracy) yadda yadda.
But I just think the truck works a lot better with the stripe.

You sound as if every MP Optimus toy before this one got rid of the stripe in truck mode.

by **SpaceEagle** » Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:44 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:I always thought the truck looked more interesting with the stripe. I know toon accuracy dictates it should be gone yadda yadda and toon accuracy fans want it very accurate (at least judging by clamouring for unofficial figures that strive for extreme cartoon accuracy) yadda yadda.
But I just think the truck works a lot better with the stripe.
You sound as if every MP Optimus toy before this one got rid of the stripe in truck mode.

I was just speaking my piece about toon accuracy as is, actually!
I'm fully aware the ones before this had the stripe.

by **GrangerPerry** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:05 am

Wth what is this OP deco? I’ve been waiting for years now to get a companion to MP-36+ this new Prime looks like they took the figure off the assembly line early before paining anything. I’m fairly sure it’s all bare red plastic on the body which is accurate to the original toy however the legs were diecast on the original and looks chrome so this plastic looking silver paint is a mismatch to the original. And the worst offender is the sticker decals, where are they? MP-36+ had all his original sticker decals very nicely painted on him and he was completely covered in chrome. This Prime is going to look like a prototype ko next to MP-36+ who is this figure for? Also interested to see if they go back to the original knee joint or if they use the updated MP Black Convoy joint

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:41 am

GrangerPerry wrote:And the worst offender is the sticker decals, where are they?

Right there:

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:36 am

Sabrblade wrote:
GrangerPerry wrote:And the worst offender is the sticker decals, where are they?
Right there:

I bet the stickers will feel incredibly cheap though. For some reasons, appart the G1 originals, :HASBRO:

always drop the ball when it come to included stickers.

However, I bet my left nut, my right nut, and a third nut borrowed from my neighbor that Toyhax will have us covered.

I'll have to admit that I'm more and more tempted by MP-44S. Only the price still makes me hesitant.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:53 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:I bet the stickers will feel incredibly cheap though. For some reasons, appart the G1 originals, always drop the ball when it come to included stickers.

Not to mention, for the price point, Masterpiece figures shouldn't have cheap stickers on them at all. In lieu of moulded details with paint apps.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:17 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I bet the stickers will feel incredibly cheap though. For some reasons, appart the G1 originals, always drop the ball when it come to included stickers.

Not to mention, for the price point, Masterpiece figures shouldn't have cheap stickers on them at all. In lieu of moulded details with paint apps.

If y'all are referring to the bad foil stickers that Hasbro used during Titans Return and Power of the Primes, Takara's MPs have never used those.